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Author:	[NFL Betting] Topic: When books refuse to take a parlay.....it should tell you something....
juicedlady	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1147 Location: Alabama	#26 Posted: 12/15/2011 8:50:59 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by FadeOnly: I believe the number that most books use is 33%. If the spread is equal or greater than 33% of the total, books decline to take the play. Atlanta -14 (42) ----- 14/42 = .33333333333 One outcome has an immediate effect on the other. Fair enough, but when the play was refused it was 13 and 41.5, which equals a little over 31%.
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juicedlady	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1147 Location: Alabama	#27 Posted: 12/15/2011 8:53:50 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by MJ2345: They wont take Jacks and Under either!! I'm not going to argue with you guys, so this is my last post on this topic. They would accept any combination on this game, EXCEPT Atlanta and OV. They would allow JAX/UN, JAX/OV, or ATL/UN, just not ATL/OV.
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choiOi	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 4337 Location: Wyoming	#28 Posted: 12/15/2011 8:55:53 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by FadeOnly: I believe the number that most books use is 33%. If the spread is equal or greater than 33% of the total, books decline to take the play. Atlanta -14 (42) ----- 14/42 = .33333333333 One outcome has an immediate effect on the other. I don't think that is entirely true.....single bets maybe, but parlays we are talking about here...how not accepting parlays be rewarding? You don't lose taking parlays if you base this on quarterly. There's gotta be more to it. Although the thread could be positive...I am being negative and I am trying to figure out why. Thanks for the clarification.
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grins1010	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Prospect Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 308 Location: Illinois	#29 Posted: 12/15/2011 8:58:21 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by houguy28: They won't take JAX/Under bet either, doesn't mean that its the play. Except that is exactly the play.
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Plisskin76	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 2873 Location: Nevada	#30 Posted: 12/15/2011 9:01:20 PM the books are happy.
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Bet_The_House	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 1752 Location: Australia	#31 Posted: 12/15/2011 9:13:11 PM This is very common for books i have used, unable to parlay favourite and over in many sports, not just NFL
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choiOi	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 4337 Location: Wyoming	#32 Posted: 12/15/2011 10:16:28 PM JuiceLady.....you are absolutely correct. Thanks for the heads up.
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snowman76	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Mandalay Bay \|
Rookie Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 614 Location: Texas	#33 Posted: 12/15/2011 10:32:44 PM JLady thank you for the post, EXCELLENT INFO!!! keep up the fight and share, forget the haters
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Bling	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 36097 Location: United States	#34 Posted: 12/15/2011 10:34:10 PM umm. there are commonly 3 to 4 games per NFL week that the books won't take in a parley. It is not uncommon at all. Hope you didn't make a bet off that information.
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Prospect Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 202 Location: New Jersey	#35 Posted: 12/15/2011 10:34:16 PM good stuff!
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degenx13	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: SPORTSBETTING.AG \|
Prospect Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21 Location: California	#36 Posted: 12/15/2011 10:35:38 PM sportsbetting.com rejects the favored/over parlay all the time.
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longhornswin	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 7104 Location: Texas	#37 Posted: 12/15/2011 10:39:29 PM , why I teased both! Did the same Monday night!
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jayson76	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4264 Location: New Jersey	#38 Posted: 12/15/2011 10:42:32 PM just do if action on game atl if over
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TexansSwagga	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Prospect Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 431 Location:	#39 Posted: 12/15/2011 10:43:00 PM Somebody give juiced lady some love....she nailed this one
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jo14014	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2835 Location: United States	#40 Posted: 12/15/2011 11:14:28 PM
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jo14014	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2835 Location: United States	#41 Posted: 12/15/2011 11:29:11 PM Just risk more on a single play either the Ov or side which you wanted originally and get the same win amount from(parlay) if you felt that confident of it hitting anyhow.....
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juicedlady	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1147 Location: Alabama	#42 Posted: 12/16/2011 11:25:47 AM Thanks to you guys who understood what I was trying to share with everyone and posted supportive comments. I hope you cashed in just like I did. For the record, the fact that books weren't accepting that combination in a parlay didn't keep me from using the info to hit the side and the total straight up, along with 2 teasers (ATL/OV & ATL/UN). I understand what correlated parlays are and why they are sometimes refused by books, but as I attempted to explain, that wasn't the reason this play was refused. It was refused because of the amount of sharp money that had been taken in on ATL by the books. I don't mean to sound rude, but I really don't know how to say this and not sound that way......if you don't understand what I'm trying to say then you don't understand the way books work and how they control their exposure on certain plays. I don't have any interest in debating anyone on here about this topic or any other so I'm not going to go back and forth with people about it. The people who understood what the info I was sharing meant and appreciated it. That's all I really care about.
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Prospect Joined: May 2007 Posts: 374 Location: Canada	#43 Posted: 12/16/2011 12:24:41 PM I think when the spread is more than -13 in the NFL...You can't tease or parlay spreads and totals of the same game...
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Baldies	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Prospect Joined: May 2007 Posts: 374 Location: Canada	#44 Posted: 12/16/2011 12:36:12 PM I'm quoting this from my book.... "...does not allow same game parlays or teasers in NFL or NCAA Football when the point spread for the game is 13 or more. First and second halves on those games will also be restricted. This applies to same game parlays and teasers only. You may parlay or tease a game with a point spread of 13 or more to another event." It could be done before ATL reached -13.
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bayougambler	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Prospect Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 274 Location: United States	#45 Posted: 12/16/2011 2:02:54 PM thx for the info made a barrel of money betting with my local
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ShadowWarrior	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 6344 Location: Hawaii	#46 Posted: 12/16/2011 2:19:40 PM it was a hit, Atl and the over. good reason to not take the parlay.
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Guy_2U	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 647 Location:	#47 Posted: 12/16/2011 2:53:09 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by juicedlady: Was just told that the Vegas Hilton is refusing to take any parlays with this combination in tonight's game - ATL/OV. Based on this, I decided to fire in again with my local book with this same play and guess what......they aren't taking it either. This speaks VERY loudly boys..... It's a good angle to play and also it seems when there is extra juice on a play that should not be there, it's a hint too.
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