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Posted: 9/24/2012 1:49:02 AM
Also, 6 million a year might seem like a great deal of money to us, but to Billionaire owners, a couple of million is pocket money..... Working mans pay.....
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Posted: 9/24/2012 8:24:11 PM
meta, if one year off would kill your spirits you were never in the game! i think lance is correct. its hard to choose a side.  A.   yes the players sell the game, due to a large surge over the last couple of decades(takes some longer than others) can they be replaced? when i was a kid growing up in long island my dad was pissed he had to drive past 4 baseball leagues and 4 football leagues to get me to one of the very few hockey leagues on the island, now that rink is no longer there but you will pass three new ones on the way! i bet there are ten million canadians who would love the chance to collect an nhl paycheck at even less than the average player gets now! how long do you think the game would suffer? in actuality a little less talent and a lot more heart would not hurt the game for a few years till the talent pool refills.  B  the owners, is what they want to hard to comprehend? just a stupid thought, i dont know about places like montana, but if you wanted to open a stupid macdonalds franchise  in new york city it will cost you a couple of mill! should the person who  you hire to flip the piece of garbage frozen splean burger patties make more % than you? i dont know, but dont think so, think the burger flipper could be replaced faster than the millionare who runs the business, but thats just me. hate both sides, love the game more than anything, wish we were not in this predictment. will someone just drop the friggin puck already!
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Posted: 9/24/2012 8:34:22 PM
and one more thing, tired of hearing about my boys being part of the problem. if anybody knows anything teams from new york, chicago, and los angeles can not get any funds back from the league for losing money! buffalo  does not count because they wear the word buffalo on thier sweaters. the same funds the islanders paid into during the glory years. i challenge this forum to prove me wrong! and if you cant( which you will not) please shut the darn up!
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Posted: 9/24/2012 10:22:37 PM
Are you kidding me Potvin,  the Isles are clearly part of the problem weather they qualify for revenue sharing or not.


As well the Rangers, Leafs and Habs account for a big chunk of that "revenue growth", it would appear chopping salaries by 10 mil or so is the difference for damn near half the league being in the red or in the black, where else can they chop cost?

http://bizofhockey.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=442:inside-the-forbes-2011-nhl-valuations&catid=33:nhl-news&Itemid=51 


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Posted: 9/25/2012 2:06:21 AM
are you kidding me lance?in a democratic society who cares if a person choses to run a business to the ground. until it costs you a dime, what business is it of yours? forgive me, i am a little slow. inform me what the isles are costing the nhl?all losses are taken by ownership unlike phoenix. sorry we are not putting money in your pockets at this time. they were in the 70s and 80s
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Posted: 9/25/2012 2:54:52 AM
the 80's were over 22 years ago, the Isles are last in the nhl in revenue and and are worth less than the Bluejackets. Wang paid 190 mil for the Isles, it's worth 40 mil less now on top of the countless millions lost running it, this affects the league in a whole. How many teams have changed owners since the last lockout? How many teams are for sale right now? How many are on the brink of bankruptcy? Will a few of these owners sell for below value just to get out? How does that darn the other owners? How much mortage are some owners carrying on their franchise? How can a league stay healthy and viable with teams going down the toilet? This league would be fucked if it wern't for the original 6 and a few other teams.It's clear teams need a salary reduction on players.  That link I posted kind of explains the owners side of things I think.
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Posted: 9/25/2012 10:33:04 AM
before I bounce for work,,bye bye Oilers????

http://www.thehockeynews.com/yahoosports/48527-What-We-Learned-At-least-youre-not-an-Edmonton-Oilers-fan.html
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Posted: 9/25/2012 3:58:35 PM
down the toilet? if you have some spare time look up names like john spano, and milstein and gluckstern, some interesting reading. buttman paid 580dollars to review spanos proposal to buy the isles,didnt catch there was two cases pending against him on fraud! a person without a dime bought the islanders, began running up the charges on the isles account before being arrested and the team returned to pickett who was long retired in florida. buttman should have been fired then! milstein and gluckstern. the nfl laughed at  thier attempt to buy the washington redskins, but the nhl said come on in! thier way to produce income was to get rid of anybody who could help the isles win and have the lowest payroll! a the team never recovered b it was 1996 when the isles started losing money, 24 years of paying into the nhl, 16 years of paying thier own debts! but as i understand it, its not only buttman, all owners have to agree on sales, moves, and new entities(yes even the thought of attempting a second team in atlanta) if i am incorrect please inform me. if i am not i owe you a thankyou for having a hand in friggin up my team and with the other hand pointing and saying they are the reason! i dont care what the team is worth at this present moment, if you worried about the welfare cases first the isles will get thier act together by 2015 one way or another, im hoping one way and not the other!
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Posted: 9/25/2012 10:59:46 PM
2015 to get their garbage together??? The have to, that's when their lease expires, I read somewhere Quebec City will have a new arena up and running by then.

Canuck fans can thank Arthur Griffiths for building what's now called Rogers Arena when he did, the Canucks may have not have survived the 90's if they were stuck in the old PNE arena. I highly doubt John McCaw would have stepped in if the arena wasn't part of the deal.
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