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Author:	[Las Vegas] Topic: Is it possible to beat house in Craps game?
JoshLewis	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Prospect Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 477 Location: Greece	#1 Posted: 6/15/2011 5:10:34 PM I heard about you can turn odds in your favor if you're a ryhthm roller/sharp shooter.. Or by betting dontpass line if shooter is square. Betting pass line (with odds) if shooter is a sharp shooter. Is it true? or its a myth?
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JoshLewis	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Prospect Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 477 Location: Greece	#2 Posted: 6/16/2011 5:03:49 PM hey come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Redskin28	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Prospect Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 239 Location: Virginia	#3 Posted: 6/16/2011 7:37:12 PM It is not possible to CONSISTENTLY beat the house at craps. But craps is the easiest of the table games to win money at. As long as you are willing to spend a few hours on a table and grind it out, you can usually walk away positive if you have a good strategy.
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VegasGourmet	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 800 Location:	#4 Posted: 6/17/2011 3:14:45 PM Josh.... You live in the state of Nevada and have been on this board for over 2 years....Why would you ask if a table game can be beat? If any table game could be beat, then this city would still be the desert that Bugsy found many years ago.... Can you have a winning session?...Of course. Can you have a winning trip?....Of course. Can you BEAT A TABLE GAME?....No Pass line w/odds, as you point out, is the safest way to bet....and lose money OVER THE LONG RUN...which means you will, sometimes, have a winning session or trip.
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666LES	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1738 Location: New York	#5 Posted: 6/17/2011 3:16:56 PM What is a square? What is a sharp? I've seen women who stare at the ceiling and flip the dice side-arm have a roll. I've seen guys set the dice and get only one bounce off the wall and not make 2 passes.I've heard about mechanics but I've never seen a professional crap shooter.
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chef702	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Veteran Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1635 Location: China	#6 Posted: 6/17/2011 10:11:48 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by 666LES: What is a square? What is a sharp? I've seen women who stare at the ceiling and flip the dice side-arm have a roll. I've seen guys set the dice and get only one bounce off the wall and not make 2 passes.I've heard about mechanics but I've never seen a professional crap shooter. Look up the dominator and he explains technique for the dice controller.
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666LES	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1738 Location: New York	#7 Posted: 6/18/2011 10:58:34 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by chef702: Look up the dominator and he explains technique for the dice controller. I've seen that segment and a mechanic may do something but I've never seen him at my table and 99% of the dice setters I've seen shoot no better then a trained chimp. I want to discourage anyone from playing craps who might view the tables as their part-time job. VG said it plain , you can beat a game, you don't beat the Game.
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chef702	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Veteran Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1635 Location: China	#8 Posted: 6/19/2011 4:05:04 PM Die at the Wall
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mafioso	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Bellagio \|
Veteran Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1028 Location: California	#9 Posted: 6/20/2011 7:47:18 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by VegasGourmet: Josh.... You live in the state of Nevada and have been on this board for over 2 years....Why would you ask if a table game can be beat? If any table game could be beat, then this city would still be the desert that Bugsy found many years ago.... Can you have a winning session?...Of course. Can you have a winning trip?....Of course. Can you BEAT A TABLE GAME?....No Pass line w/odds, as you point out, is the safest way to bet....and lose money OVER THE LONG RUN...which means you will, sometimes, have a winning session or trip. So true, I remember thinking a long time ago, Well Blackjack can be beaten, but after spending time learning to count cards and dealing at various casinos in Vegas and San Diego CA, I have learned the only way to to have a shot using the counting method is to spread your bet huge not 4 to 1 like a stupid book says. If you are a 25 dollar bettor and your count reaches a true count of +7 or more single or double deck and double after splits favorably, You would have to raise your bet to atleast 500 dollars to offset the house advantage, problem is if you bet more than 100 the dealer is soppose to yell out checks play, this alerts the house and they start watching you, it doesnt take long to get caught, because going from 25 to 150 will draw heat and you arent even thwarting the house edge at all, its gotta be 500 or more and that my freind the casino will never allow you to do, thats why not even counting cards works anymore, that is why several counting teams have been successfull, big player gets signal, bam he is there out of no where, he cant be a counter and he bets the max. Thats it, for anyone who thinks any table game can be beaten, Its not true, give up on the idea now please.
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