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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:43:02 PM
FYI sorry to get off the football topic but I just changed my avatar for a picture that was taken today here on the Island of Maui. It finally snowed again on top of our dormant volcano called Haleakala and I thought some of you might get a kick out of it.
 
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Posted: 1/29/2008 9:29:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

Wassup my brother

I returned your email last night let me know if it went through.

Aloha, my friend

No email as of yet. Anyhoo, glad you are well. Don't let them work you too hard at the office. That volcano looks a little too tough for me to try on my first snow skiing venture. I'll just stick to water skiing...LOL

Go Giants!

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Posted: 1/29/2008 9:41:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mr_Covers:

Away:  N.Y. Giants [13-6 ATS]
Home:  New England [10-8 ATS]

Game Time: 6:30 PM
Stadium: University of Phoenix Stadium

Recent Meetings:
12/29/07 - NE 38 vs. NYG 35

Team Leaders:

N.Y. Giants:
Passing: Eli Manning (3938)
Rushing: Brandon Jacobs (1166)
Receiving: Plaxico Burress (1222)

New England:
Passing: Tom Brady (5277)
Rushing: Laurence Maroney (1079)
Receiving: Randy Moss (1525)

More:
Live Odds
In-Depth Matchup Information
Consensus Betting Information

and who is moving it nw......
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Posted: 1/29/2008 9:50:59 PM

we all know the big money comes this weekend.... we all know the line has moved- 2.5 points since it opened(14.5 to 12) .....-1/2 more and pats fans get a fieldgoal and a push or win from the openingline(11.5).... 1 more point  and an advantage for the pats. jump on the g-men now and play big new york wanta be big playas betting too much to make it drop and hit pats heavy at 11.0. comments

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Posted: 1/30/2008 12:52:37 AM
Wow....thank you so much for that post of hatred against me there BreakaBookie...always nice to see the usual friendly people on here.

Went with the teaser as just a part of my picks...will post my whole card before game time when it is final.  Been making money off of teasers this playoff season, so I could honestly give two craps if you think they are a bookies "wet dream"  I did enjoy your in-depth analysis of "when was the last time the Pats covered in the Super Bowl?"  That would be in 2001 when they upset the Rams. 

Now to the exciting analysis of "my team is better than your team" by Spytheweb.  Yes, the Patriots ran for a total of 44 yards in Week 17 vs. the Giants.  What I really want to know is where you are coming up with these stats saying the Giants were able to run and pass the ball with no problems.  You can check the box score for what really happened in that game.  The Giants had 79 yards rushing between Jacobs and Bradshaw and 237 yards passing.  The Patriots passed the ball for a total of 356 yards...quite a considerable advantage I would say.  Brady had no turnovers, there were no fumbles, and the Pats won the Time of Possesion 36-23.

Those are the facts.  Do the Giants have a better punter?  Yup, by far actually.  And its probably a good thing because he will have to punt 3-4 times more than the Pats punter more than likely.  Don't really need a great punter when you punt twice a game!!

Of course, if the Giants win, I will be the first one on here to congratulate them on the most incredible playoff run in Super Bowl history, give them props for coming up with the biggest upset in the Super Bowl....and being the only team to beat the Pats this year.

But looking at the teams on paper, and their previous meeting...I believe the Pats will win.  I teased it because I see an 11-13 point win.  The spread is right there, and I see no reason whatsoever to be sitting at the end of the game screaming for a lousy field goal or two point conversion to sway it one way or another.  I'll take my 1-1 odds on the 2-team teaser and double my money.  thank you very much.

PLEASE KEEP THE THREADS FRIENDLY AND INFORMATIVE

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Posted: 1/30/2008 2:01:02 AM
Hey, i seen this movie before. Pats are 1-7 ATS, Brady threw 3 ints against SD, who's QB was missing, who's #1 RB was missing. Giants are 7-1 ATS.
GB- how is NY going to cover their 5 WR spread, banged up secondary, Farve at home, the weather. Dallas- beat them twice by 10 and 11 points, Dallas led the NFL with more plays of 20 yards and longer, Dallas 12 probowlers NY 1. TO the Giant killer. TB- teams who played NE the week before are 4-11 following week. Good defense @ home, Garcia another Giant killer, who do you trust, Manning or Garcia.

NE pretty much expects to win this game, much like Dallas did. They are fat, happy and ready for the slaughter. The 21 points NY scored on NE were the most scored against them all season.
I hope NE keeps that i'am not worried frame of mind. So after the game they'll be saying what happened? Where'd he go? Where did who go?

Like i said i seen this movie before, things are not the same, anytime the hunter get captured by the game.
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Posted: 1/30/2008 2:14:34 AM
  CMJOHNSON ROCKS
 
BREAK A BOOKIE COULDNT BREAK A PIGY BANK 
 
 
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Posted: 1/30/2008 4:24:15 AM
Loves me a good defense married to a good spread.
 
Ride NY to the end?  dunno.
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Posted: 1/30/2008 8:32:10 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by AJCAcura:

But in the 01-02 superbowl they won by 14 with the spread of +11 (no tom brady though)

 

They won by 3 getting 14 and Brady was the QB after Bledsoe was hurt in week 2 I believe.

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Posted: 1/30/2008 9:46:51 AM
Thanks Pimp....just trying to keep it on topic with the children in here.
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Posted: 1/30/2008 11:50:48 AM
Does anyone know the Pats record under Belichick when they meet an opponent for the second time in a season?

I believe the Pats are almost undefeated in these situations.
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Posted: 1/30/2008 1:06:51 PM
Brady is going to go off, like the other QB's who had a chance to win their 4th Super Bowl(Bradshaw & Montana) and those 2 played there best game the 4th time. Look for the patriots to cement there place in history as the best team EVER. The defense will also have a huge day. Eli has been very good in the playoffs but once he gets rattled he is all done and he doesn't have the mental make-up of a championship QB(YET). The final score is going to be 41-13
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Posted: 1/30/2008 2:28:59 PM
Quote from Tom Brady below:

“We’ve played some good teams down the stretch, teams that have challenged us. I think there are a lot of factors that play into it,” Brady said when asked about the more competitive games in the final weeks of the regular season. “We’ve been a very prolific offensive football team. I think when the weather changes, offensive football is a bit more challenging, and that’s when the defense really steps up, and we’ve relied heavily on them to make the stop and keep the points down. And that’s what they’ve done.

“The great thing is you only have to score more points than the other team. You are not trying to set scoring records. You are just trying to win the game. I am glad we’ve found ways to win the game, probably different ways, running the ball, playing better defense, and now we are back in a warm environment, so I’m hoping we can get back to how we were playing earlier in the season.”


They are going to BLOW up the G-Men.   Lay the points
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Posted: 1/30/2008 4:37:24 PM
Vegas rarely loses in big games vs. the public.  Right now the public $$ is still 75% on the Giants.  Meanwhile the spread still sits at 11.5-12.  I expect it to even out some, as many Pats bettors are waiting for a point to shave, but we will see how much Vegas is all over the Pats covering.  Right now they seem to be.

I'm interested in a little prop bet action on the MVP. Three options I like are:

Randy Moss +800
Wes Welker +1100
Junior Seau +3300

I'm definitely going to put at least a token amount on Junior.  I expect him to have a huge game, and don't be surprised if you see a pass go his way in a goal line situation, much in the way Vrabel has been used in the past.  It's a longshot, but I like the odds.  Otherwise, Welker and Moss are good bets.  WR Deion Branch won it in 2004, and Brady 2x before. 

BigDaddy that is a neat show of the snow in HI.  Nice to see a peaceful post amid this sea of posturing.

PatsGrl, I like your logic.  And your team ain't too shabby either.


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Posted: 1/30/2008 6:24:54 PM
$200   on   tails .   
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Posted: 1/30/2008 6:56:34 PM
This is only easy if you want it to be, G-Men with the points and Under.  Consider my Post-Record 2-0 now. 
27-17 Pats go undefeated --- 19-0
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Posted: 1/30/2008 7:58:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by jjmandl:

Ruegemer - 2001 Pats.  I know its not exactly the entire defense, but dont use your facts to back up your pick with incorrect facts.

 

Com'on dude.....don't come on here calling people out......when you don't have the guts to put what you think in an organized, backed up train of thought.  Tread a lillte lighter on your disagreements with people.......that's why this forum is here.......to share information and talk about different perspectives........but don't just call someone out and then not ever add to the thread......there are other places on the net for that crap. 

Seriously, though, I would be interested to see what your opinion is.......as long as it isn't just another slam on me or another person in here who has earned some credability.  Not saying I have any......but my man Wise has in my eyes.......and I'm sure in some others.

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Posted: 1/30/2008 8:38:45 PM
Thanks for the props Break-a-bookie......but CM Johnson is someone who I always stop and read.  Nice pick Big D!  Beats northern Indiana right now......-15 with the windchill outside as I type.  Keep pouring that Crown Fish!!!  Like I said a couple weeks ago.....you inspired me to go get a bottle......I still have a couple tumblers left for the pregame on Sunday.......then I'll go to my staple......gin martinis........heavily shaken, twisted with the cap of the vermouth bottle waved over the top of the glass!
 
Where is Hawkeye at????  And Lefty......let me guess brah?  You're on the over right?
 
Good luck to the rest of you......Coverditty, Scorp, The Colonel, Tex, CM Johnson, MauiWarrior, Dansyk, Obes, Charlielo55,  and not only my favorite Guitarist ever, but a solid capper, JerryGarcia1......and the rest of you that keep me coming back in here for laughs and good advice and opinions!!  Good luck to you all and anyone that I may have forgotten to mention! 
 
As for my official picks on the outcome and total........I'll be banging the under, betting half as much on the Giants, and then parlaying the two together for a little something more. 
I'll post a few prop bets later in the weekend.......I just never hit those dam things.....they are the book's bets.....much like the teasers.
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Posted: 1/30/2008 9:42:05 PM
I may have to adjust my score based on what happened the last time someone on the other team was garbage-talking about the Pats.

Anthony Smith guaranteed a win...they lost 34-17 and it wasnt' close

Plaxico Burress said they will win 23-17....and guess what

Pats 34
Giants 17

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Posted: 1/30/2008 9:59:20 PM
Last chance to post for me.... Can't wait to get to Vegas and see the smorgasboard that awaits me. Wish I could take ya'll along for the ride.....in any event, I'm on the Giants +12 and under 53.5.....Hope everyone wins!
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Posted: 1/30/2008 10:22:24 PM
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Posted: 1/30/2008 10:57:15 PM
Irish, I'm right here, just been laying low for a while. I'm on Giants, and still think total.
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Posted: 1/30/2008 10:58:20 PM
woah, look what taking 2 weeks of does to your green bars
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Posted: 1/30/2008 11:06:21 PM

Vegas needs money on the giants because the pats will finnaly cover a spread again GUARANTEED

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Posted: 1/30/2008 11:47:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

$200   on   tails .   


Are you going to spend it all at once, or spread it out a bit, ColonelJim?  

BOL on the big day Sunday... hey the Giints have the edge in Penn Staters, 2-1.   But it won't be enough. 

Happy Super Bowl Sunday to all the regulars, and thanks for bringing gifts to the party all year long! 


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