New England at New York (12/29/2007)

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Posted: 12/27/2007 9:36:14 PM
imho, belichick will do the unexpected in the first half, and resurrect the running game against the strength of the giants - their  d-line. he is an absolute genius. this scenario will keep brady clean and will set up a 2nd half  air assault w/ brady & co. (if need be). no way in hell eli shows up for this game. he's good for 2 turnovers, and the pats will make the giants pay, as they always do. if you want the g-men in this game, you might want to do it earlier rather than later...
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Posted: 12/27/2007 9:55:32 PM

FOXBORO -- Marlin Jackson slid to the turf, thrust both arms over his head and let out a scream. The Colts were going to the Super Bowl.

It was one of the darkest moments in Patriots [team stats] history. No team had ever blown a bigger lead in the AFC title game. When Jackson’s interception sealed the Colts’ comeback from 21-3 down in a 38-34 victory last January, Patriots fans had no way of knowing that the seeds of rebirth were already being planted.

Far from devastated by the loss, the front office was instead moved to action. For the players, there was no greater motivator than ensuring they never felt that way again.

"We’ll be back full force, all of us," cornerback Ellis Hobbs [stats] guaranteed a day after the defeat. "I don’t think anyone wants to end on a sour note like that."

The 12 months that followed have produced some of the most riveting storylines ever to grace these parts, with the new-look Patriots overcoming everything from the death of Marquise Hill to Rodney Harrison [stats]’s suspension for using human growth hormone to the furor that erupted over Camera-gate.

On Saturday they have a chance to polish off the most dominant regular season in history against the New York Giants. If they win, they’ll become the first team to finish a season 16-0 and join the 1972 Miami Dolphins [team stats] as the only squads to achieve regular-season perfection.

"It’s something we’ll talk about when we’re older and retired," Harrison said. "It has no bearing on what we have to do to prepare for next week."

A quintessentially Patriots-like response in what has been the quintessential Patriots season. What follows is a look back at the year that was.

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Posted: 12/27/2007 10:04:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rockn4u:

Pats first half I lke a lot  Actually I like them to cover the spread as well
Lovem' or Hatem' ---> History will be made Saturday
 
GL All -

So you honestly think they'll cover the 9.5? I hope they do. I am going to bet every Q in that game. I have 4K to play with and want to double it on that game alone.

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Posted: 12/28/2007 1:07:27 AM
I like NE in this game, 13.5 points is much easier to manage then 22+..I don't see the Giants are capable of keeping the game close.
 
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Posted: 12/28/2007 3:05:15 AM
It would be really nice to share an undefeated title with a fellow AFC East rival


Good luck on your journey Patriots it was a great season for the Pats and their fans.

Cheers

We Dolphins will be ready for you in about 2 or 3 years.
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Posted: 12/28/2007 9:30:40 AM
With this game being nationally televised  I have to go with the PATS.. The Giants have been a very big disappointment especially last week against the biolls in the 1st half  they have no defense and  manning throws picks everywhere but to his receivers  From a redskins fan  I am on the pats band wagon here
 
Another factor  here is the coaching staff  if you compare the two staff's  you have to go with the PATS... 
 
I  have a small wager on  pats to go 16-0 I got it at +550 too Just enough for a dinner out with the family should I win 
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Posted: 12/28/2007 10:35:35 AM
Here is my breakdown for this game:
 
Patriots are going for the perfect season. Tom Brady and Randy Moss are both going for NFL records. The Giants have no real motivation to play the game whereas the Patriots have a lot to play for. Also you have to realize the Giants have not beaten a team with a better than .500 record and we are talking about a 1.000 team here. The Patriots won't be doing much running in the beginning. Brady is going to come out and light up a terrible Giants Secondary. He will get that record one way or another. Don't expect them to let up passing for the run until he gets his 3 TD's. This alone should be enough to cover because I gaurantee that once the Giants go down big they will bench their players for the post season. Don't expect to see Giants starters past the 2nd quarter. This could work out very well however if Brady has not thrown his 3 TD's yet and the Giants 2nd stringers come in. It should be locked up at that point. On the offensive side of the ball the Giants are going to be miserable as well. Brandon Jacobs is too big to hide and will get spotted by the Patriots Linebacker core every time he tries to make a move. The only real threat is Bradshaw who is an outstanding young player. Eli Manning is good for 2 INT's and a few fumbles. In case you're one of these ignorant people that thinks Eli Manning is a good quarterback here are a few quick facts about him you may not have known.
 
He currently ranks 27th in qb rating (70.9) above Cleo Lemon and Trent Dilfer and below Kyle Boller, Joey Harrington and Brian Griese
29th in completion percentage (55.3)
31st in yards per attempt (6.2)
1st in interceptions (19)
Eli at his worst qb rating since his rookie season
 
It is just a fact that he is not a good quarterback. His defense wins game with pass rushing and that is not going to work against a phenomenal Patriots pass protection line. Brady has a field day at the Meadow Lands.
 
Patriots - 38              Giants - 14
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Posted: 12/28/2007 10:39:16 AM
Also the weather is great for this game, Mid 40's with 10 MPH winds. Could end up being over as well.
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Posted: 12/28/2007 1:40:30 PM
NE      40
Giants 17
 
All Day!
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Posted: 12/28/2007 1:58:47 PM

COUGHLIN SHOULD TAKE BRADY'S ADVICE AND REST HIS STARTERS

NEW ENGLAND - 39                NEW YORK - 14

PATS                                        OVER46.5

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Posted: 12/28/2007 2:03:30 PM
Have to feel the Pats as well here.  I believe that they are out to prove more than the GMen who are just happy to have a fat chick to take to the big dance. 
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Posted: 12/28/2007 2:07:19 PM
I hate to always be the voice of doom but everybody is on the Pats and even though I have a nice new car in my driveway courtesy of NE I still am cautious when I hear people say I'm going bet them big perhaps Vegas will increase the line but it seems like a perfect game for the Pats to win by 7 or 10 and huge dollars will flow down the drain. Who knows if the perfect season is any less perfect if the beaners win but don't cover, the only way that would happen is if I bet them huge and got stiffed so to avoid that misery I will stay off this even though the temptation to take the ride is almost unbearable. Good Luck to those who play but remember play smart
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Posted: 12/28/2007 2:08:28 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

It would be really nice to share an undefeated title with a fellow AFC East rival


Good luck on your journey Patriots it was a great season for the Pats and their fans.

Cheers

We Dolphins will be ready for you in about 2 or 3 years.
Unfortunately, since the Giants playoff game is already set, I don't think that they'll show up for this game and will not wager because of that. Looks like the Pats will finish the regular season undefeated, but I hope I'm wrong. (sorry PatsGrl).....I do think that they'll lose in the playoffs or in the Super Bowl, but if they don't and do win out, I will offer my congratulations at that point. Then and only then will it be a perfect season.
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Posted: 12/28/2007 2:17:49 PM
Not too smart...Giant players talking a little smack about Brady. When will they ever learn....
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Posted: 12/28/2007 3:22:26 PM
I think that the chances of the Giants covering this one depends on how well their d-line gets a good pass rush on it's own. If the Giants get forced to blitz, the Pats will cover this game easily. If not, the Pats might win by only a TD. I guess I'm counting on Eli turning it over at least twice via pick / fumble. I'm also counting on the Giants playing as well as they can regardless of who is in there. That means I'm not going to admit that Eli is so much better than whoever goes in as the backup (Lorenzen), or that an injured Plax is so much better than some other WR at 100% strength.
 
My guess is that the Giants are going to be fired up defensively. They will try to mix it up coverage-wise, only doubling Moss about 2/3 of the time instead of all of the time, like they should. They will eventually pay for this, and Moss will probably hit for at least 1 TD in the game.
 
Just like Dallas came into the Meadownlands and handled business for an 11 point win, the Pats will too. Pats minus the points. They win by 20+.
 
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Posted: 12/28/2007 6:51:02 PM
Giants 23 Pats 17
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Posted: 12/28/2007 7:26:49 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by Fish Naked:

Unfortunately, since the Giants playoff game is already set, I don't think that they'll show up for this game and will not wager because of that. Looks like the Pats will finish the regular season undefeated, but I hope I'm wrong. (sorry PatsGrl).....I do think that they'll lose in the playoffs or in the Super Bowl, but if they don't and do win out, I will offer my congratulations at that point. Then and only then will it be a perfect season.

 

What are the reasons you think NE will lose in playoffs, and to whom? I'm not being a smartass, I am honestly curious.

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Posted: 12/28/2007 8:02:46 PM

Expect the Patriots to do what they do on the road and that's score a respectable 39 points (their average on the road this year). They have 2 weeks to rest up after this game and will break every NFL record they can this Saturday night, you can count on that. The Giants have nothing to gain in this beating but injuries and will back down when they see that the Pats are out to make History. Besides, with Eli at the helm of the Giants ship, they are out gunned, out smarted, and in over their head if they think they are going to slow down or interfere with History in the making. You can take the Patriots to the Bank once again this year, and count on them going 19-0.

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Posted: 12/28/2007 10:38:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by swamppdonkey77:

 

What are the reasons you think NE will lose in playoffs, and to whom? I'm not being a smartass, I am honestly curious.

I just think that they'll stumble somehow. Once the playoffs start, It's a whole different ballgame. What happens if Brady gets hurt? or Maroney? or Wilfork? or someone takes out Bill on the sideline and he gets carted off the field? Seriously, I think that the Colts and Jags have an excellent shot at beating them. Looks like it could be the Cowboys or Packers from the NFC and I give them a decent shot as well. And if the avatar with Bellicheck is the real cover of Sports Illustrated, that angle speaks for itself.
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Posted: 12/29/2007 12:01:26 AM
Patriots     by 9.5 1H          6 Units
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Posted: 12/29/2007 1:14:23 AM
Liking the over of 24 in the first half, BOL everyone
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Posted: 12/29/2007 1:15:41 AM
Pat's will not loss the Super Bowl.  They have been focused all season  now they only need to get through 4 additional games....NYG,  2 at home..... then Arizona.   
Please this season is a wrap,  we just living in their world right now.     Enough said.
 
& yes they will cover this weekend toooo
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Posted: 12/29/2007 2:45:47 AM
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Posted: 12/29/2007 2:48:36 AM
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Good luck bro!  And yes, I do believe there going to cover.  I'm up a nice chunk of cabbage thanks to my Pats.  Don't know if I'm gonna shoot my wad on this game, but I've placed a hefty little wager here myself, 2k...I've had 3 local books stop taking my action this season, finally found a Bigger fish that want's the action!  Can I get an Amen?!?!

 

GL All -

 

Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

So you honestly think they'll cover the 9.5? I hope they do. I am going to bet every Q in that game. I have 4K to play with and want to double it on that game alone.

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Posted: 12/29/2007 5:50:11 AM
pats win....don't cover!!!
 
here's to 16-0!!!
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