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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:12:03 PM
The fact is that Colts have not lost all year at home.  The Patriots lost to the Jets at home in November.
 
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What I think Bator is saying is that:
 
Everybody already knows that Peyton is brilliant at home but the defense has been suspect.  However, Bator is saying that the defense has been stellar of late and have stiffened up for post season.  On top of that, they have revenge on their side.  I totally agree with Bator and so I am biased as far as a line judge.
 
As far as Peyton's previous post season losses, there is an old golf saying that you "have to lose before you can win" and I think that will motivate the Colts even more.  As far as the die hard NE fans, Bator has been brilliant with his AFC West analysis and he is discounting the NE win over the Chargers by saying San Diego is definately beatable.
 
I'm rolling to dinner but good luck with your picks !!
 
 
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Veniteri is on Indy now   and Indy has lost how many at home this year??
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:15:30 PM
bator - look at your other post i have something for u to look at there (the one with 320+ replies)
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QUOTE Originally Posted by EDDIEW:

Veniteri is on Indy now   and Indy has lost how many at home this year??
 
Indy has zero losses this year at home (pre season not included)
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:16:55 PM
Mr Bator,
 
You write eloquently but you leave out some pertinent facts.
 
Just TWO weeks ago the Colts had the worst run defense in the NFL.
 
Yes they stopped KC and Baltimore but Trent Green and an aging
Steve McNair are LIGHT YEARS away from Tom Brady.
 
You keep bringing up how the Patriots did not play well but
you neglect the fact that they WON.
 
In San Diego, where the Chargers are UNBEATABLE.
 
You also are banking on a Colt QB that is has one (as in almost zero)
TD and Cinquo de Mayo picks.
 
Do you really believe Bellichek is not going to figure out
a way to stop JOSEPH ADAI?
 
Then the game will be in a QB's hands that has, still to this very day,
shown he can handle playoff pressure
 
Methinks you protest too much!
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Brady doesn't scare me, neither does Manning not playing that well of late,
It's Billy Bell.  He is not only a good coach, I think he might be LUCKY.
The only thing that keeps me with the
Colts is his luck may run out because he doesn't have Marty this week
 
Oh and also MR.BATOR. Guy is hot
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:18:56 PM
Radi,
 
Two things;
The last time I looked 10-0 is better than 9-0.
 
and how many had the Chargers lost at home UNTIL YESTERDAY?
 
ACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:20:16 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:

I do not know how much an advantage the Colts will have facing Tom (10-0 in domes, 12-1 on turf) Brady
but you never know
 
 
 
Tom Brady was far from sharp in yesterday's game.  Up until Marlon McCree's fumble, he positively sucked (by his standards, of course).  The devastating, and inexcusable, turnover by McCree put the entire Charger team in Full Choke Mode, and after that they were incapable of doing anything right.  TomCurtis, I think you could have rallied the Patriots to victory at that point.  Tom Brady, Tom Curtis, it would have made no difference.
 
Brady is great and he is super clutch, but he is not a better quarterback than Peyton Manning.  Brady in his Super Bowl winning years was always backed up a great defense, something Manning has never enjoyed.  Brady has always benefitted from superior coaching, again a major advantage that Manning has never had as a pro.  It's insulting how highly regarded Brady is over Manning, and this personal playoff dominance is not going to continue.  The Colts moved the ball with ease in the last two regular season meetings against the Pats weakened defense, and they will do it again with similar ease in the comfortable environment of their home Dome where they have won 24 of 27 games the last three seasons.  
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:21:22 PM
 will it go a perfect 5-0...fade the trend!!
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:22:43 PM
MrBator,
 
In a punt,pass and kick contest I would take Peyton Manning
 
In the NFL playoffs give me Tom Brady every time.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:

MrBator,
 
In a punt,pass and kick contest I would take Peyton Manning
 
In the NFL playoffs give me Tom Brady every time.
 
Tom Brady did not look that great yesterday.  Peyton in his dome is unstoppable.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:28:47 PM
full disclosure: I'm a huge Patriots fan.  It seems to me that MrB thinks the Colts are a lock.  I can't blame him for taking the Colts but he seems to be way too confident.  Peyton always plays poorly in big games.  He did it at Tennessee and he has contined that through his years as a colt.  Yes the colts defense has played better in the post season but lets look at the facts.  He faced the Chiefs in one of the worst coached games ever in post season play.  Indy dared the Chiefs to throw the ball on 1st and 2nd down by bringing everyone INCLUDING their corners on run blitzes.  yet Herm continued to do larry J up the middle on 1st and 2nd down or throw a 5 yard curl pattern to Gonzalez. 
 
Last week the Colts played a very poor offense in the Ravens.  McNair could not throw the ball more than 10 yards down the field.  The Ravens rank 17th in total yards and 24th or something in rushing.  Ravens scored their points because of their defense.  I think it will be different when they face a better offensive team in NE.
 
The Patriots young and very talented offensive line is playing its best ball of the year.  The job they did against SD was very impressive.  I expect that trend to continue against the Colts and watch Brady continue his unbelievable play inside domes and shred the Colts secondary and set up the run of Maroney and Dillon.
 
 
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Wasn't he the guy with three interceptions at home two weeks ago
or was that Eli?
 
No it was Peyton.
 
If you call three picks unstoppable, you are absolutely correct.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:38:58 PM
TCNY .........You indeed posted a interesting tread and, I didn't see where you did Mr.B, an injustice just the opposite. I will give it to you for having your own opinion, it's a lot more then most people in this forum
 have.   
 I use Trends also but,as one of the tools along with a lot of other factors,not just a hypothesis
( inadequacy of evidevce)  to support my choice.
Tom remember 4 of anything does not even come close to a trend, too small of a sample size.   You could use it and if someone you respect is opposite, you don't have have to switch sides,you could just down size your wagger by a few beaver pelts.
Its sounds like we will be hearing from you in the furture.                     
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:46:02 PM
Just TWO weeks ago the Colts had the worst run defense in the NFL.
 
 
 
Tom, you need to let that go.  Regular season stats count for far less in my eyes than the last two games.  I wasn't high on the Colts two weeks ago myself, and even after seeing one defensive throttling against KC, I still wasn't impressed, as evidenced by my losing moneyline bet on the Ravens.  But I learned from that losing bet, and I took full note that the Colts defense has indeed stiffened at just the right time.  That 600 yard game against Jacksonville seven weeks ago?  Ancient history.  What matters is how they are playing right now, and this defense, although not some suddenly impenetrable force, does have the confidence to play another good game.  Like I said to someone else here, they don't have to stuff the Patriots like they did the Chiefs and the Ravens.  If they hold the Patriots to under 21, that'll be good enough.
 
 
You keep bringing up how the Patriots did not play well but
you neglect the fact that they WON.
 
 
I don't give them nearly as much credit as others are giving them for yesterday's game because they were up against a team that was looking for ways to lose!  I didn't bet on the Patriots yesterday because I thought they were a top team, I bet on them because I KNEW the Chargers would fall apart if the Patriots could apply pressure to them late in the game.  Tomlinson had a strong game and it didn't do them any good.  They had to rely heavily on Rivers and he couldn't do anything.  But Rivers is no Peyton Manning.  Believe me, guys, Manning is going to come up big. 
 
 
In San Diego, where the Chargers are UNBEATABLE.
 
 
The Chargers were pretenders and I've maintained that on these boards for weeks.  As little as I thought of the Chargers, I still couldn't follow through with my Patriots moneyline bet.  What does that say about how much faith I had in New England?  I knew the Chargers were bad and still I didn't trust New England to get it done SU.  Now the Patriots are up against a legitimate, fully-focused, revenge-minded powerhouse, and now I KNOW the Patriots will not get it done.
 
 
You also are banking on a Colt QB that is has one (as in almost zero)
TD and Cinquo de Mayo picks.
 
Look, Manning didn't have a good game against the Ravens defense, but you know what?  WHAT QUARTERBACK DOES?  As for the Chiefs game, everyone is maligning Manning for his three interceptions but what everyone forgets is that the guy was 30-38 in that game!  That's 79% completions!  And none of his three picks put the game at any risk, all they did was prevent the final score from being 30-8 or maybe 37-8.
 
 
Do you really believe Bellichek is not going to figure out
a way to stop JOSEPH ADAI?
 
 
Dungy has the easier assignment in figuring out a way to stop Dillon and Maroney.
 
 
Then the game will be in a QB's hands that has, still to this very day,
shown he can handle playoff pressure
 
Brady will be down by double digits in the 4th quarter, and he'll have taken this team as far as it can go.  And then they'll head home.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:48:39 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:

MrBator,
 
In a punt,pass and kick contest I would take Peyton Manning
 
In the NFL playoffs give me Tom Brady every time.
 
 
 
Sure, me too, with his defense of years past, and home field advantage.  Definetely.  But not now.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:53:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TomCurtisNY:

Wasn't he the guy with three interceptions at home two weeks ago
or was that Eli?
 
No it was Peyton.
 
If you call three picks unstoppable, you are absolutely correct.
 
 
 
"And your final from today's AFC Wild Card game, the Colts with more than enough, and the Chiefs with hardly anything."
 
 
So?  Even on a day he got picked three times, he still led his team to an easy win by completing 30 of 38 passes.
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Posted: 1/15/2007 7:53:55 PM
im not sure what to think... ive seen 5 cappers that i respect a lot with GOYs on indy.  I want to know how they can have THAT MUCH trust in the colts.
 
Before their last 2 games, they gave up 22 points at home to Miami, lost outright to Houston giving up 27 points, did only give up 16 to cinci at home and won impressively, but got CRUSHED at jacksonville giving up 44, and lost the week before to tennessee 20-17.  I know they have Bob Sanders now but can he really be THAT much of a difference?  In that week of practice between the Miami and KC game did something just click?  Or did they just decide to start trying in the playoffs?
 
 
In the last month and a half both teams have played jax, houston, tennessee... new england dominated all of these teams and the colts lost to all of them.  The Jacksonville score was a lot closer than it should've been... jax got 2 fluke tds - they couldnt move the ball all game.  New England crushed tennessee the last week of the season barely trying... indy lost to them at full strength.
 
Another good trend for this season is don't expect what you saw in the last week to happen again.  So often if teams looked unbeatable they will lose the week after, if a team loses 31-0 the week before the win the next week... id have to say the colts d looked incredible while new england looked sloppy - so dont expect the same to happen this week.
 
I'm not saying the colts will not win this game or won't cover, but how people are willing to make their biggest play of the year on indy i have to question.
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You trust Dungy to stop Maroney and Dillon more than Belichick to stop Adai?  That is very interesting and i couldn't disagree more.  I don't know how to respond to that. 
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Hawkeye,
 
I do not trust Tony Dungy to take out the garbarge.
 
What has this guy done to make you trust him?
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Mr Bator,
 
So Peyton stinks and the Colts still won so he is great.
 
Tom Brady has an average game, the Pats win and he is
not good enough to beat the Colts?
 
Your logic doesn't make much sense
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Hi MrBator,
 
A real treat reading your insights.      I was leaning to NE and will probably still bet them, but you've definitely given me pause over what I thought was a L O C K.  Best wishes for this weekend.
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Mr. Bator writes: Regular season stats count for far less in my eyes than the last two games
 
You can go bonzo on two good games by the Colts defense but ignore
the Patriots record, in the playoffs, on artifical surface, in domes and as an underdog?
 
Mr. Bator writes Now the Patriots are up against a legitimate, fully-focused, revenge-minded powerhouse
 
So you would have bet Indy ON THE ROAD in San Diego?  I think not.
 
Mr. Bator writes Look, Manning didn't have a good game against the Ravens defense, but you know what?  WHAT QUARTERBACK DOES? 
 
Name a good game Manning has had in the playoffs.
 
 
Mr. Bator writes
Dungy has the easier assignment in figuring out a way to stop Dillon and Maroney.
 
Are you talking about TONY Dungy?
 
The poormans Marty Schotenheimer?
 
For someone who know a truckload about gambling, you are so
off base, it is hard to understand.
 
Like I said earlier, I can see thinking the Colts are going to win
but to put such blind faith in a group that has NEVER, come
through seems suicidal.
 
Forget the fact they are playing the greatest money team in the last
two decades.
 
I swear, I think someone is ghosting your replies.
 
 
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Posted: 1/15/2007 9:00:19 PM
 
Mr bator you just put your 100,00 on the colts ,ill put my couple hundred on the pats, and when its all said
 
and done and you  lost your kids college fund,maybe  us pats backers will  donate 20$ each so you can
 
afford food for your family to eat if you have one
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