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Posted: 12/26/2006 10:51:51 AM
Any more thoughts on Cent Mich tonite VAN??
 
 
 
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 11:16:52 AM
Hey Van, i'm alittle new to this but I see you seem to be a forum favorite. Any help on tonight's game between Central Michigan and Middle Tennesse St would be appreciated. Also, I see in one of your posts you mentioned the Arizona St fan boards. Where do you find this? It seems helpful?
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:32:41 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KOAJ:

vanzack

did you lock in a CMU -10 line?
 
Nah Im still waiting.
 
Have an offer in at matchbook now at 7.5 -101.
 
I always post the lines as they are when I post.  I dont see how it makes a difference to anyone if I win or lose, its what they can bet the game at that particular time.  WHat good does it do to say "I got -5 with my local" when everyone else has to bet -10?
 
If the goal was to tell everyone how I am winning with my local then fine.  But if the goal is to post picks that everyone might want to bet on then its counterproductive.
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:35:10 PM

Central Michigan -10 (**) vs Middle Tenn ST inside the dome in Detroit.  There is every initial reason to bet Middle Tn here – they are a double digit dog, they are playing a team whose head coach left, they are a small school with bigtime motivation – but I cant get past their deplorable numbers on the field.

 

MTST ranks 105 out of 119 division 1 programs in total offense.  Their passing offense is 108 out of 119.  They play in the crappy sunbelt conference.  Their strength of schedule is ranked 106th in the nation.  Their wins came against:  Ark ST, Lafayette, Monroe, FAU, FIU, North Texas, and Tennessee Tech.  They did not even compete in any game they had against a legitimate div 1 team scoring 34 points in those 4 games.

 

CMU on the other hand also plays in a relatively weak conference, but their offense is outstanding and they have a great QB WR connection that has paid dividends.  They are well balanced on both sides of the ball, and their special teams are also outstanding.  They won the MAC this year and this will be close to a home game for them.

 

Like I said, I wanted to like MTST here but I just cant.  They are overpowered in all facets of this game.  41-14 CMU.

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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:38:32 PM
Alright, let's do it.  Went with -7-115  
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:40:33 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2:

Alright, let's do it.  Went with -7-115  
 
Where did you get that D2?
 
There is a little move on CMU right now, best Im seeing at -7 is -125.
 
Thanks
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:41:21 PM
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:41:42 PM
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:43:36 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Rizzo:

 
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The ultimate compliment.
 
Tears are streaming down my face.
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:43:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

 
Where did you get that D2?
 
There is a little move on CMU right now, best Im seeing at -7 is -125.
 
Thanks
 


Cascade.  It's -7.5-105 and they let you buy the half for 10 cents.  I don't know if you've played there, but pretty good limits too.  10K on the bowl games. 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:46:29 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2:



Cascade.  It's -7.5-105 and they let you buy the half for 10 cents.  I don't know if you've played there, but pretty good limits too.  10K on the bowl games. 
 
Thanks.
 
I have never played there.  I will do a little more research on them.
 
THANKS
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:50:27 PM
I just got in at -7.5 -106 at Matchbook.
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:50:31 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

 
Nah Im still waiting.
 
Have an offer in at matchbook now at 7.5 -101.
 
I always post the lines as they are when I post.  I dont see how it makes a difference to anyone if I win or lose, its what they can bet the game at that particular time.  WHat good does it do to say "I got -5 with my local" when everyone else has to bet -10?
 
If the goal was to tell everyone how I am winning with my local then fine.  But if the goal is to post picks that everyone might want to bet on then its counterproductive.
 


understood...im hoping i can get -7 but thats highly doubtful. i dont think the hook will matter here
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:53:40 PM
I took it at -7 (-121) at Pinnacle yesterday.
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Posted: 12/26/2006 1:55:52 PM
Nice work, BOL the rest of the way
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Posted: 12/26/2006 2:08:09 PM
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Posted: 12/26/2006 2:09:51 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

 
Thanks.
 
I have never played there.  I will do a little more research on them.
 
THANKS


If you do join there, be sure to specifically request the -105 lineset instead of (or maybe in addition to) a bonus. They're a solid out, though their limits are lower for hoops (3K) and they post kinda late sometimes.  But they've been around for a long time.  B+ rated at SBR.
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Posted: 12/26/2006 2:10:35 PM
Same Here
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 2:15:39 PM

Clemson -9.5 (**) vs Kentucky.   This one is in Nashville.  At first glance I liked KY.  I wanted to like KY in this game.  But after further review – the play was overruled.

 

This game boils down to Clemsons rushing game vs the KY defense, and the KY throwing game against the Clemson defense.  That’s what both offenses do best, lets look at it:

 

Clemson rushing offense 5th in the nation

KY rushing defense 111th (out of 119) in the nation and last in the SEC

 

KY passing offense 9th in the nation

Clemson passing defense 4th in the nation.

 

I just don’t see how KY is ever going to stop Clemson.  On the other hand, Clemson should be able to slow down KY and KY cant run the ball either.  Special teams are a wash although KY has one of the best punt return teams in the nation.

 

Strength of schedule is about even, with Clemson having a tougher out of conf schedule but an easier in conf schedule.  I don’t like the fact that Clemson is limping in to this one losing 3 of its last 4, and especially to S Carolina, but Clemson will be able to run on KY and that will be the difference.

 

Clemson 38 – 17

 

Missouri +3.5 (**) vs Oregon State at El Paso TX.  I have to take the points here.  Missouri is a little bit better than Oregon State in almost every statistical category.  They have very even special teams.

 

The difference in this one is Missouri’s air attack against the OSU passing defense.  I think Missou should be able to move the ball in the air.

 

Missouri wins 31-24

 

 

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Posted: 12/26/2006 2:15:48 PM

S Carolina -5.5 (****) vs Houston at Mephis TN.  This will be equal to my biggest bowl game bet of the season. 

 

This is a tremendous spot for SC.  First off lets talk about what happened last year in SC’s bowl game.  They were dominating Missouri 21-0 and going in for another when they threw an interception and they just fell apart.  They lost and the program was embarrassed and spurrier vowed he would never let that happen again.  The players have all been saying that they remember that game and will never let that happen again.  I believe SC will play until the last whistle, even if it means burying their opponent.  There will be no give up.

 

Houston plays in CUSA – and we have already seen what that lousy conference has done.  I have it ranked as the worst conference from top to bottom, and they are doing nothing so far to prove me wrong.  On the other hand the SEC is the strongest conference in the nation from top to bottom, and SC competed very well all year.  Their losses are to Florida, Arkansas, Tennessee, Auburn and Georgia – all solid bowl teams.

 

SC will be able to move the ball all over the field on Houston, and I think Houston will become one dimensional and as good as Kolb can be, he cant carry this team alone.

 

Big coaching advantage to SC too.

 

SC wins easily 41-17.

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quote#146
Posted: 12/26/2006 2:36:35 PM
YOU ARE A MACHINE!!
 
AWESOME job thus far... keep up the great work vanzack!
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 3:13:25 PM
any napa hotel/resort recommendations for a 4 day april trip? never been there........going from a wed. through sunday........doing research on it now, but if you have some experience in this, i wouldnt mind hearing it.......
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Posted: 12/26/2006 4:15:43 PM
VAN THE MAN you have helped me make tons of  this last week!!!! Your record is unbelievable...Keep it up my MAN!!!
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 4:25:10 PM
Sweet jesus van!  You are one popular SOB!
 
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Posted: 12/26/2006 4:31:47 PM
SCarol also one of my biggest plays this BS...........................& yes, I'm on CM tonight


Good run so far van
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