I-Gaming Prohibition Bill on the Verge of Passing

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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:40:38 PM
I, for one, as a law abiding, tax paying American citizen, am angry as hell. The Republicans must be voted out of office in November.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:43:50 PM
Also your aloud to gamble your life away on lotterys and you can bet the horses online but not poker and sports --So its ok to spend your kids college money on the horses ???how fair is that ???
 
Looks like some of us will have to boycott these other venues if this passes
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:45:21 PM
so if this is about banks, could we be safe with Western Union and offshores?
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:45:29 PM
keep voting republician because you think you will be safer in this country, soon you wont be able to do anything but go to work, collect your paycheck and then go give your money to lotteries and indian casinos, to keep the politicians living the life of luxury.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:46:38 PM
Weston union is already almost done with these transactions if not already --very few betting transactions
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:47:30 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by slc5610:

so if this is about banks, could we be safe with Western Union and offshores?
 
WU is a payment processor and will be a target of this bill.
 
CC's, neteller, WU etc.
 
Look - there is no reason to panic.  Its very bad but it has nothing to do with criminalizing gambling - UNLESS they add language to update the wire act - which is very doubtful.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:47:54 PM
email or call your senators! I did a quick google search and found the website to my senators. They had a contact email form.....Tell these politicians to NOT vote to approve the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act!
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:48:08 PM
you just watch, porn will be next on the Christian Conservative hit list....when is this garbage going to stop????
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:48:14 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by losuds63:

Weston union is already almost done with these transactions if not already --very few betting transactions
huh? dont understand your comment.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:49:20 PM
I thought that western union stop these transactions already --if iam wrong sorry i wasnt aware they still do this!
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Posted: 9/29/2006 7:50:34 PM
come on guys dont you all know why certain forms of gambling arent part of the bill.  Just stop and use common sense for a minute and you can see right thru these lying scumbags
 
1. lotteries arent banned because they take in billions of dollars that politicians from each state basically gets to use like their own piggy bank
 
2. indian casinos arent banned in our country because that is where these politicians get the majority of their kickback money from.  Remember indians dont have to account for their billions they take in.
 
3. horse racing isnt banned because, this one is a no brainer.  who are the people behind horse racing? the rich power brokers in our country who hang with all the polticians.
 
so you can see these 3 areas of gambling could never be banned in a billion years.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:00:03 PM
i'm watching cspan, is this garbage gonna be on at 9pm?
 
i thought i read this somewhere in this thread, i want to be sure i catch this.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:03:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kerryb:

i'm watching cspan, is this garbage gonna be on at 9pm?
 
i thought i read this somewhere in this thread, i want to be sure i catch this.
 
Go to CSPN2
 
Its on right now.  They arent talking about gambling but its on.
 
Dont expect to hear a word about it - the reason they attached it to the port security act is because it couldnt stand on its own.  Its going to pass literally in the dark of night.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:03:50 PM
I'm watching C span now too. 
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:05:49 PM
guess its time to find a bookie.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:06:01 PM
bob menendez is crooked, bunch of garbage came out about him lately.
 
god, i hate politicians.
 
any truth to the 9pm discussion of internet gambling?
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:06:19 PM
I'm hearing this guy talk about HIV/AIDS 
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:06:54 PM
Some sanity from the NROG:
 
hey guys. A fairly dark day for us all...to clear things up. The bill that was attached today does indeed mimrro the Leach bill which will prevent U.S. banks and internet payment companies from funding online accounts. Not sure yet how or if Neteller/Firepay/etc are somehow factored into the equasion but we'll let you know once we review the bill.

This is hardly the end guys. This is mostly ceremonial and sure it may make things tougher in the short term, but the big nut is still waiting to fall. That is the amendment of the Wire Act which will make all online gambling illegal. Who knows know if that will come up next year. It will depend on who takes over control and how motivated they are to go after it. Our info points to a possible break in the anti-gambling action for a while as they'll call this bill a victory.

NROG will now focus on our original media approach to let people know what their Senators did behind closed doors and what the next step may be. The fight is far from over. We may have lost this battle but we haven't yet lost the war. (sorry for the bad analogy) We're sorry we couldn't help in Washington although we did give it our all. Remember though, this is why NROG was formed. We knew the lobbying efforts were not working. Lets take this thing to the public and get a massive army to fight the next battle. Thanks again for your support.

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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:07:58 PM
I heard the senate is gonna send it back to floor and ask to have this removed. One can only hope.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:10:20 PM
darn it, I'm moving to Vegas, been thinking about it for years... time to go job searching 
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:10:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

Some sanity from the NROG:
 
hey guys. A fairly dark day for us all...to clear things up. The bill that was attached today does indeed mimrro the Leach bill which will prevent U.S. banks and internet payment companies from funding online accounts. Not sure yet how or if Neteller/Firepay/etc are somehow factored into the equasion but we'll let you know once we review the bill.

This is hardly the end guys. This is mostly ceremonial and sure it may make things tougher in the short term, but the big nut is still waiting to fall. That is the amendment of the Wire Act which will make all online gambling illegal. Who knows know if that will come up next year. It will depend on who takes over control and how motivated they are to go after it. Our info points to a possible break in the anti-gambling action for a while as they'll call this bill a victory.

NROG will now focus on our original media approach to let people know what their Senators did behind closed doors and what the next step may be. The fight is far from over. We may have lost this battle but we haven't yet lost the war. (sorry for the bad analogy) We're sorry we couldn't help in Washington although we did give it our all. Remember though, this is why NROG was formed. We knew the lobbying efforts were not working. Lets take this thing to the public and get a massive army to fight the next battle. Thanks again for your support.

JayB
www.saveonlinegaming.com
 
so would a money order fedexed still work?
 
 
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:13:36 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by slc5610:

 
so would a money order fedexed still work?
 
 
 
Yes.  Or a cashiers check.  We have to wait until the language comes out but currently they dont even have a way to enforce it.  AND THE RESPONSIBILITY IS ON THE BANKS AND PROCESSORS - not you.  Page 15 of the bill calls for 270 days after the bill in enacted for banks to come up with a way to do this.
 
Relax.  There is nothing imminent to stop you from gambling.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:14:23 PM
so did they pass this bullshit?
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:16:02 PM
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Vanzack you are very naive. They can overnight shutdown neteller etc. Without being able to fund your accounts everything ends literally overnight.
 
Originally Posted by vanzack:

 
Yes.  Or a cashiers check.  We have to wait until the language comes out but currently they dont even have a way to enforce it.  AND THE RESPONSIBILITY IS ON THE BANKS AND PROCESSORS - not you.  Page 15 of the bill calls for 270 days after the bill in enacted for banks to come up with a way to do this.
 
Relax.  There is nothing imminent to stop you from gambling.
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Posted: 9/29/2006 8:17:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wool_worths:

Vanzack you are very naive. They can overnight shutdown neteller etc. Without being able to fund your accounts everything ends literally overnight.
 
And woolworths - you dont understand how the law works and how foreign corporations work with things like jurisdiction.
 
Please take your nonsense somewhere else - grown ups are talking here.
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