So, what have we learned - Week 3 (nfl)

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Posted: 9/24/2006 11:47:11 PM
so who would you rather have THIS season...
 
Culpecker, Byron the retard, or Brad Johnson?
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Posted: 9/24/2006 11:47:50 PM
Brad looks like a HOF COMPARE 2 CULP AND SUCKWICH
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Posted: 9/24/2006 11:49:57 PM
CG, can we break the 'Byron sucks' discussion out of this thread and onto its own?
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Posted: 9/24/2006 11:52:23 PM
Culpepper sucks, how is he even in the discussion, he sucked last year and gets a free pass because he got hurt and now everyone forgot about the fact that he sucks. "oh he is still struggling with the injury" NO HE ISNT! HE SUCKS!
 
Leftwich is a good QB, i dont understand why they went away from running the ball vs INDY, that was working and they stopped doing it.
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Posted: 9/24/2006 11:54:39 PM
YA RUNNING WAS working........... but it show 7 points, jagz mess up when they got the ball IN THE goal line........... you need points vs the colts........... everyone knows that, cant hold that offense down forever.... not in there house, bottom line jagz had a chance 2 do something EARly in the 1st half and blew it....... and what have leftwich done this season that  makes him a good qb?
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Posted: 9/24/2006 11:55:47 PM
there's a lot of week to week weirdness this season. only a handful of teams get it done consistently
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Posted: 9/24/2006 11:56:10 PM
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Posted: 9/25/2006 12:02:03 AM
JP - sorry, the Leftwich discussion was off topic.
 
Let's summarize it all and bring it back on topic by saying... We have learned this week that Byron just does not have what it takes to consistently perform against the elite teams in the league.   
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Posted: 9/25/2006 12:07:11 AM
mike francessa is RIPPING the giants, and i don't blame him one bit.
 
appears the blame game is going on with the giants with shockey
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Posted: 9/25/2006 12:50:42 AM
Coughlin sounded through the roof after the game today, Kerry.  He sounded like he could barely contain how pissed he was from the press.  Funny thing, though, what did he really expect out of those three games?  Did he honestly expect 2-1?  Before the season started, did anyone have them down for better than 1-2 in those games?  I had them at 1-2, flipping Indy and Philly. 

They were dogs in every game, they played better teams in Seattle and Indy, at least based on their results last year, and they played a huge division rival in Philly.  Now, should he have expected better performances--i.e., in the first three quarters in Philly and today?  Maybe, but to start ripping people's heads off now I'm not sure is the right way to go.

That said, I think they kick the s**t out of Washington at home in two weeks.  I think the Jags are going to be very, very physical with the 'Skins this week and even if Washington wins, they should be nice and tenderized for the Giants the following week.
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Posted: 9/25/2006 1:25:15 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kerryb:

mike francessa is RIPPING the giants, and i don't blame him one bit.
 
appears the blame game is going on with the giants with shockey
 
Francesa is a phony behind. he hates shockey because a few seasons ago shockey had a segment with mike n the mad dog and he kept missing it until finally it was cancelled. since then anytime the giants do poorly he gets a bug up his behind about shockey.
 
 
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Posted: 9/25/2006 1:29:20 AM
I agree, Monday Night Football should be the marquis game... on ABC...with 3 in the booth...and yellow blazers dammit!
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Posted: 9/25/2006 1:30:43 AM
sorry that's "marquee"
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Posted: 9/25/2006 1:41:15 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KOAJ:

i learned i should stay un the ncaaf forum...i tend to do much better over there

5-2 sat
1-3 sun


Opposite for me KOAJ; was up 16K but lost back 12K to the local books, most of it was in the afternoon games and of course N.E. at night.  I still don't understand about the afternoon games when all teams who were loosing at halftime ended covering the 2nd half.  That killed me!!!


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Posted: 9/25/2006 1:46:31 AM
good feedback.....
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The Dolphins are a joke, Culpepper is officially a bust. 13-10 at home against Kerry Collins and the Titans? I'd shoot myself in the head if I was Saban. I don't think these guys will win more than 6 games.
 
The Colts officially have an achilles heel (besides the playoffs), they can't run the ball.
 
Detroit should never, ever be a 7 point fav against anyone. Correct that, they should never be any kind of fav against anyone.
 
I love the scrappy Jets, and I'll be taking them with the points again next week.
 
I think Pitt has lost too many key players and has become a 2nd tier team. Still a good team but too many assclowns to be a contender this year. Cowher looks like he's rather be fishing than coaching.
 
I said last week that Baltimore was over-rated, they proved it today. Kudos to the Browns for covering.
 
Fading Eli and the Giants on the road is still money.
 
Arizona is still a piece of garbage team, I said it last week and they also confirmed it today. On the flip side, I like this year's version of the Rams - decent D with a healthy Bulger makes these guys a good bet against the middle-of-the-road and shitty teams. Sort of a dark-horse team that doesn't get much respect, probably because the Mike Martz stink hasn't worn off yet.
 
Denver is starting to wake up, it took them a game last year, two games this year but they are a solid team on both sides of the ball. The running game looked good tonight and Shanahan got exactly what he wanted out of Plummer. I think I can start betting on these guys again.
 
Tom Brady needs some wide receivers, at least get the guy somebody to replace Branch. Like Pittsburgh, I think the Pats are slipping towards the middle of the pack.
 
I'm still not impressed by the Bengals but looking at that candyass schedule of theirs they are going to win a lot of games this year. Playoffs will be a different story.
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Posted: 9/25/2006 2:12:55 AM
Fading Eli and the Giants on the road is still money.  
 
 they are 1-1 ATS on the road
 
I'm still not impressed by the Bengals but looking at that candyass schedule of theirs they are going to win a lot of games this year. Playoffs will be a different story.
 
agree, i had them sunday but they got lucky to win that game, their D still kinda sucks
 
 
BTW i like how people are just figuring out Culpepper sucks , this makes me laugh every time someone posts it. 
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Posted: 9/25/2006 2:46:41 AM
Eli is now 3-9 ATS (career) on the road against .500+ home teams. That one win this year was the victory they pulled out of their fools in Philly.
 
The Dolphins were a WAY more effective team with the likes of Gus Frerotte and Jay Fiedler at QB. I guess some of us expected Fumblepepper to at least be more successful than those guys. I wasn't expecting him to throw like Marino or anything but this guy is making me wonder how much worse Joey Harrington could be.
 
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Posted: 9/25/2006 3:06:03 AM
Steelers have a crappy early schedule ..Opened on thurs week 1 , then 11 days later week 2 MNF , short week game 3 then a bye  . MNF game 4 in SD..... BRUTAL ..TO MUCH TIME OFF
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Posted: 9/25/2006 3:24:04 AM
good insight JOE. very nice job and thanks for taking the time to post that for all of us. i can't say i disagree on anything you just wrote. i feel the exact same way and noticed many of the same trends you did in the first 3 weeks.
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Posted: 9/25/2006 5:46:01 AM
Vegas won a trillion dollars on Cleveland+6.5-7.5 
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Posted: 9/25/2006 5:59:32 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by doc32:

 
1) If SF doesn't fumble, then Philly would not have been so laid back on defense
 
2) 24-17 is still a cover at -6 and Philly went on to score 38 total points. I will accept the small portion of your argument and if you give SF 7 more points, it would have been 1 pt away from the cover.
 
Even though getting only 6 pts, I still never heard 1 argument as to why SF was the play other than some public fade mumbo jumbo.


-strange things happen in san fran
-philly coming off an awful lossm then flying cross country
-figured the game would go over and i'll take the extra TD in that spot
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Posted: 9/25/2006 12:28:14 PM
So, I didn't put two and two together until this morning when I read it somewhere.  And this was a little weird/embarrassing because I actually watched a good part of this game.  But the Michael Robinson who looked really good against the Eagles in the second half yesterday running the ball, was the former starting QB at Penn St. last year.  He's 'that' Michael Robinson.

I honestly had no idea.  I heard in the combines that at first he was thinking about staying a QB, but after a day or so they moved him to WR and he really worked hard at that.  I had no idea that since SF drafted the guy they'd moved him to RB of all things and now he comes in after Frank Gore.  He was surprisingly good.  I guess it sort of proves that thing Bellichick based much of the Pats on, if you get good football players with the right attitude you can move them around more than you think to fit your system.  Good for Robinson.

Now, if only he could have kept SF out of the endzone with :08 to go in the game.
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Posted: 9/25/2006 12:39:14 PM
Today I learned that rookie TE Vernon Davis for SF will be out for about a month with a broken fibula.

I also was reminded that football's great and all, and it can make us (and lose us money), but it helps to keep both it and those who play it in perspective.  I was reminded of this when I read the following this morning: 

Colts wide receiver Reggie Wayne apparently returned to Louisiana late Sunday to be with his family after his brother was killed earlier in the day when a delivery truck he was driving crashed into a highway guardrail near Kenner, La.

The guy was just driving a truck.  That's it.  Just doing his job.  And now he's gone.  Tough loss for the Wayne family.  A reminder to the rest of us.
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