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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:04:37 PM
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1.  What is the true meaning of "Vanzack"...name?  nickname?

2.  If you could live in one place for the rest of your life, where would it be?

3.  Who will win the World Series this year?

Im running out of steam - and will start at post #9 soon, but I am going to jump to this one first....

1.  Vanzack is a combination of my 2 dogs at the time that I created a username - maybe back in like 1998.  I had a rotweiller named Van, and a german shepherd named Zack - both have since died - but their memories live on in every douchebag at covers who hates me.

2.  Great question.  I was on a beach in Roatan that I thought was heaven recently, but I dont think I could live there.  I honestly think I would like to really live on a yacht or sailing vessel one day - and think I will do it - in fact if I take this break from gambling I have been threatening because of the current gambling climate I might actually do it soon.  I have been many places in the world, every continent (except antarctica) - some contenders would be Finland, France, Turkey, Argentina, Thailand, and Australia.

3.  The world series will be won by the Phillies.  Who else can win?

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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:05:55 PM

What did you do to Wrigs to make him not like you much?

How much cash do you walk around with in your pocket everyday?

Will the Cubs ever win the world series?

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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wrigleyswagers:

how the darn are you gonna let this puke say he wagered 200 k on one game, this place is a joke, sorry beets

Look - I dont know who you are - but I do know there are people still here at covers who were along for the ride of the obama election - saw my offers and takedowns at MB and saw lines move at Pinnacle.

It is so funny that the response is the exact opposite of what I thought would happen when I named that amount - I thought for sure I would be called a fraud for not betting enough - that the mighty vanzack really isnt a baller.

Exactly the reason I never talk about amounts, it never comes to any good.  But I did it in this thread because I am being honest here, because that is what I promised beets.

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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:13:44 PM
if i wouldnt get banned i would debate your lies all night, we can have a 3 way call with beets and i will get any owner of any book that you bet with on that horn, and thats REAL TALK skippy and i would wager 25 k that you are full of garbage, us dollars, orlando money, beets can set it all up and i will doneate the money to charity in covers name
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:15:45 PM

Im going to take a break and watch my favorite show - and ultimate goal in life - The Amazing Race.

I will one day be greeted by Phil at some exotic locale where he says "vanzack and wrigley, you are the FIRST team to arrive!"

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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:18:01 PM
i have proved my point gents  now im done beets, hey beets if you ever want info or the truth about wagering you can always pm me
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:18:13 PM
Ballsack,

Wrigs smells a rat. To clear things up go ahead and post your SS#, DOB, and grandmothers maiden name so we can launch a background check. If nothing turns up I'll PM Beets that the Q&A can resume
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:19:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wrigleyswagers:

if i wouldnt get banned i would debate your lies all night, we can have a 3 way call with beets and i will get any owner of any book that you bet with on that horn, and thats REAL TALK skippy and i would wager 25 k that you are full of garbage, us dollars, orlando money, beets can set it all up and i will doneate the money to charity in covers name

You have some real issues huh?

5 years ago I would have jumped at this.  In fact, 5 years ago I had a 15k real money wager fall apart because I just got too aggravated, and I let him out of it 4 weeks before the end of the season in a bet I was 99% to collect.

I dont have the patience for this kind of nonsense.  Like I said earlier, why not go spend your time challenging Paul McCartney to a karaoke contest, or challenge LeBron to a one on one game.  See how they respond.

Now bug off.  This has the potential to be a productive thread.

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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:20:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wrigleyswagers:

i have proved my point gents  now im done beets, hey beets if you ever want info or the truth about wagering you can always pm me

You are friggin weird.

The truth about vanzack.

Jeesh.

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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:21:01 PM

why you getting mad mr 200 k wager man, night giant, i mean vanzack

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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:21:43 PM
seems like you are rattled a bit mr big time, why? i dont understand
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:23:09 PM
what books do you use mr 200 k , i will call in the morning and straigten all this out, i dont even need your name or anything , just tell me and i will call
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:37:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wrigleyswagers:

how the darn are you gonna let this puke say he wagered 200 k on one game, this place is a joke, sorry beets

Sorry for hijacking the thread, I shall only make this one post …

Wrigs … 200k is not that hard to believe. I have met people who bet those amounts. I myself have bet 50k on a game, and routinely bet 2-3k on games all day long (like yesterday). I'm sure people don't believe how much I wager … but everything is relevant. 5k to me is similar to 50k to someone else, and $50 to the next guy. 
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:38:00 PM
Vanzack,

Not going to mention any names but what is your opinion of wannabe touts posting BS lines, records and using an army of alias's to "atta boy" his every move???

                                              
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:48:31 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:


Sorry for hijacking the thread, I shall only make this one post …

Wrigs … 200k is not that hard to believe. I have met people who bet those amounts. I myself have bet 50k on a game, and routinely bet 2-3k on games all day long (like yesterday). I'm sure people don't believe how much I wager … but everything is relevant. 5k to me is similar to 50k to someone else, and $50 to the next guy. 
hugh you crack me up i wager 20 k almost everyday and i too have made large wagers, im saying this kid is a friggin scum liar and i will prove it thats it, i wasnt saying guys dont wager 250 k, all i know if covers condones this lieing fool than ist not the site i thought it was!!
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:49:33 PM
and i noticed that any didnt answer my 3 questions, which i thought were the best 3
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:50:25 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wrigleyswagers:

these are honesty questions, please beets dont get pissed at me

1. whos fault do you think it was that you lost both championship nfl games?

2. do you think its honest to say that ibcake could out handicapp you anyday on

3. what port do you use in orlando when you park your canoe?

these are valid questions
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Posted: 2/27/2011 9:58:19 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wrigleyswagers:

hugh you crack me up i wager 20 k almost everyday and i too have made large wagers, im saying this kid is a friggin scum liar and i will prove it thats it, i wasnt saying guys dont wager 250 k, all i know if covers condones this lieing fool than ist not the site i thought it was!!


This post makes no sense.

Seriously, dude, just be quiet.
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Posted: 2/27/2011 10:00:00 PM
sorry vanzack i mean giant  i will quit, i do admit i enjoy covers and im not liked much
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Posted: 2/27/2011 10:03:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wrigleyswagers:

sorry vanzack i mean giant  i will quit, i do admit i enjoy covers and im not liked much


What does this even mean?
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Posted: 2/27/2011 10:07:03 PM
Superbeets I thought my questions were pretty good
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Posted: 2/27/2011 10:08:13 PM

covers phenom articulate and handsome a model's hands in his pants touch and tickle his behind/nuts

you're a handicapping monster son

vanzackenstein

my question...........

you like stoke on monday ?

 

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Posted: 2/27/2011 10:32:09 PM

Im going in order guys, Im on post #9.

I will get to every post, I promise.

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Posted: 2/27/2011 10:39:33 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dynamicwinners:

What is the most valuable tool you use to handicap games?

What is the best book/books you have read that helped you become a better handicapper?

Do you use any handicapping software or database to help you run your numbers/stats for each game. If so what is it?

What is the best advice you can give to the average sports investor to get better?

Thanks Van, GL as always

Easy ones first....

I havent read a book that has really helped with handicapping other than college math textbooks.  Stats and probabiliity 101 is probably the one thing every gambler could use.

The software I use is my own.  I developed the framework and paid someone to make something for me - to call it software is kind of a compliment - it is more a series of spreadsheets that I can manipulate.  It is very valuable to me, constantly tweaked - and I have discussed it at length here - the most recent being with GCNMOO in the bowl game threads.  He uses a very similar model to me - its only goal is to predict a result - not what a line will be.  Take the difference between a predicted result and a market line - and the bigger the difference is - the bigger bet I make.  More to come on that Im sure but if you search you will find a ton here that I have already written on it.....

Most valuable advice is to identify yourself as a recreational gambler, or someone who is trying to make money.  Read post #20 in this thread.  Before this thread got really silly, I posted seriously about the subject.

 

 

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Posted: 2/27/2011 10:41:21 PM

Post #20 from link given above - a lot of sarcasm (that thread was silly), but lots of truth in this and what I think every gambler could do to most help themselves is to identify which type of gambler you are:

 

Sorry, didnt see this thread until this morning.  We were sailing the passage between St Lucia and St Vincent and I always seem to lose the satellite hookup.  My captain told me about this thread this morning, and you can imagine my excitement.  I adore threads devoted to my favorite subject - me.
 
Over the years with my own experience, I have identified 2 types of gamblers.  Let me describe:
 
1.  Type A gamblers (95%) - gamble for fun, entertainment, action junkies, chase, bet teasers and negative EV parlays, use CC to fund their accounts, think of gambling money as rent money or spending money, bet haphazardly, dont understand or care to understand theory, never introspect about how to get better, are jealous, dont understand those who win, believe myths about gambling, believe in luck, believe in non correlated trends, dont care to know math or probability, talk about fixes, talk about their own bad luck, criticize anyone who wins, theorize about how people win incorrectly, put emphasis on all the wrong things, spend all their time searching for the winner of the day, are emotional and let their emotions rule them and their decisions, and lose money.  These are the equivalent of cavemen looking up at the stars, hypothesizing about how a world they dont understand works.
 
2.  Type B gamblers (5%) - Everything is done to make money, treat gambling as a business, understand winners are not the most important thing in making money, use advanced techniques to make the most money, constantly evaluate process rather than handicapping, use methods other than handicapping to make money, dont chase, dont bet for action, pick their spots, are emotionless, are like machines, understand math and probability, and make money.
 
Now - its no surprise that 95% of the posters in this thread, and 95% of the posters on covers are type A gamblers, and its no surprise either the jealously of me in this thread.  You guys just dont get it, probably never will because you dont have the patience or the fortitude, and you will always be on the sidelines losing money wondering with your buddies (the majority) "how can anyone make money doing this"?
 
All I can tell you is that I have made money the last 7 years doing this.  I can also tell you that there are plenty of others here who are professionals and make money too - I know this for a fact.  The bottom line is that I can make more money going 53% than you morons can going 60% - you can laugh all you want but it is your own defense system doing the laughing - because you know its true.  I cant post on covers all the times I make money without even making a bet, or how I can make money live betting, or how I sell games off at HT, or all of the other strategies I employ - you guys dont understand all of this - all you understand is the "winner of the day mentality".
 
Ever wonder why the most popular threads (besides the ones about me) are the ones with the hot handicapper of the day?  Pucku or matrixxx or whatever - ever look in those threads and see who is posting there?  Guys with less than 3 months on covers.... and ever say to yourself "I wonder why that is?"  Why isnt the guys posting in Puckus threads today going to be in the guy who is hot handicappers threads 4 months from now?  Because he is already broke.  Because he has no idea, even with Puckus picks how to make money and he is BROKE.  Dont you morons get this?  Look at the date next to my name.  You think Im losing year after year after year?  You think I post the insight I do, without having some clue as to what Im doing?  You know better.
 
Now, I will answer questions if you like.  St Vincent is a nice place but the supermodels are getting antsy to head down to Curacao to party with the boys from Pinny, so Im going to set sail this evening, but I will check back to this thread.  I always like helping the boys at covers.  I barely even post in the regular forums anymore because the PBOX Nation are the only ones who can talk about hgih level theory anymore - if you post out in the baseball forum you get drowned off the first page in an hour because of all of your "pick of the day" threads - and all of you idiots keep losing money and dont know why - cavemen looking up at the stars.
 
And for those who say "nobody who bets XXX would post on covers" or "nobody who does this for a living would post on covers" - let me explain something to you:  Its relatively a boring solitary existence gambling for a living.  You morons have the distraction of going to your mundane 9-5 existence every day which provides the necessary social outlets for you to get through the day.  Why wouldnt a gambler seek out people of like mind to "hang out with" even if it is on a message board?  You guys dont get it, people like me are MORE likely to post here than you idiots who might get the boss mad if he sees you on here.  Cavemen.
 
If I had a nickel for every time I met a group of guys as dumb as the guys on covers, Id have 5 cents right now.
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