What gives you the impression I am white?
If they were being used as human shields. Your anger should be directed at the Southern cowards for putting women and children in harms way and not sacrificing themselves. Plus... using women and children to justify the South's position is just like a Nazi saying the US was unjust in winning WW2 because women and children were lost in the war.
I don't care what any document says. If something has to be done to win a just war and save lives. All options are on the table. If the constitution said people have the right to marry regardless of age. I would want the government to step in. Can't have grown men marrying kids and having sex with 5 year old girls.
Would you be saying the constitution protects the pedophiles? If so, you're a sick person with serious mental deficiencies.
Another thing, what about the precious bible. It says thou shall not kill. The law says killing is illegal. But, I bet you would kill a person without hesitation if need be. Why is that? Maybe, because certain actions require a certain response?
The constitution is nothing but a document to me. Laws change and laws evolve and some laws are meant to be broken. I don't look at it like sacred holy document. Even John Stossel agrees that we must adjust according to the times and certain situations.
I don't believe the founders wrote the constitution with the intention that people would actually believe they have the "RIGHT" to legally kill, torture and hold people hostage as slaves against their will under protection of the law and the constitution. I can't believe people actually believe this?
Do you go around shouting, "I have the right to own a slave dammit ... it's in the constitution" like a total nutcase?
Let's say, I'm a cop and someone is threatening to kill everyone in sight. The man has rights and is protected by those rights. Do I kill the man and save lives or do I break the rules? Hummm... tough one. Yeah, right. I shoot the fukk, right between the eyes to save lives. Common sense trumps everything.
A man is spreading terrorist related propaganda in a time of all out war. The man is gaining followers and that puts lives and the entire country in danger, but don't have concrete evidence. Should the government let him go and risk losing the country and people getting killed? Or should the man be taken out to save the country and stop people from getting killed? Hummm... save lives or follow habeas corpus. Tough one... no, not really. Kill'em and save lives. Common sense trumps everything.
I'm such a strange and bad libertarian. I possess the ability to think logically, rationality, critically, possess mental fortitude, and have a probing inquisitiveness, a keenness of mind, and a zealous dedication to reason.
If they were being used as human shields. Your anger should be directed at the Southern cowards for putting women and children in harms way and not sacrificing themselves. Plus... using women and children to justify the South's position is just like a Nazi saying the US was unjust in winning WW2 because women and children were lost in the war.
I don't care what any document says. If something has to be done to win a just war and save lives. All options are on the table. If the constitution said people have the right to marry regardless of age. I would want the government to step in. Can't have grown men marrying kids and having sex with 5 year old girls.
Would you be saying the constitution protects the pedophiles? If so, you're a sick person with serious mental deficiencies.
Another thing, what about the precious bible. It says thou shall not kill. The law says killing is illegal. But, I bet you would kill a person without hesitation if need be. Why is that? Maybe, because certain actions require a certain response?
The constitution is nothing but a document to me. Laws change and laws evolve and some laws are meant to be broken. I don't look at it like sacred holy document. Even John Stossel agrees that we must adjust according to the times and certain situations.
I don't believe the founders wrote the constitution with the intention that people would actually believe they have the "RIGHT" to legally kill, torture and hold people hostage as slaves against their will under protection of the law and the constitution. I can't believe people actually believe this?
Do you go around shouting, "I have the right to own a slave dammit ... it's in the constitution" like a total nutcase?
Let's say, I'm a cop and someone is threatening to kill everyone in sight. The man has rights and is protected by those rights. Do I kill the man and save lives or do I break the rules? Hummm... tough one. Yeah, right. I shoot the fukk, right between the eyes to save lives. Common sense trumps everything.
A man is spreading terrorist related propaganda in a time of all out war. The man is gaining followers and that puts lives and the entire country in danger, but don't have concrete evidence. Should the government let him go and risk losing the country and people getting killed? Or should the man be taken out to save the country and stop people from getting killed? Hummm... save lives or follow habeas corpus. Tough one... no, not really. Kill'em and save lives. Common sense trumps everything.
I'm such a strange and bad libertarian. I possess the ability to think logically, rationality, critically, possess mental fortitude, and have a probing inquisitiveness, a keenness of mind, and a zealous dedication to reason.
So you abhor the unintended killing of innocents (whites) which was part of a war to end the intended killing of blacks.
Really, I'm shocked by your position.
Really, I am.
So you abhor the unintended killing of innocents (whites) which was part of a war to end the intended killing of blacks.
Really, I'm shocked by your position.
Really, I am.
I haven't read that one yet. Let me know what you think. Have you read "It Worked for Me" yet? Another great book by another great American, Collin Powell.
I haven't read that one yet. Let me know what you think. Have you read "It Worked for Me" yet? Another great book by another great American, Collin Powell.
Haha. I just have to comment on this. I don't see that as the debate. If Lincoln had decided that his war tactic was to solely terrorize the South into ending the war by targeting only civilians, the debate of just cause would have merit. But that wasn't the case. The deaths of civilians, as in most wars, were the result collateral consequences.
Let's use this as an example. A certain US President DID, in fact, target civilians to end a war. Most historians completely agree with his decision, by the way, because it ended World War 2. If course, I am talking about Truman. I am presuming the poster in question similarly finds Truman's actions repugnant.
Or does he.
Haha. I just have to comment on this. I don't see that as the debate. If Lincoln had decided that his war tactic was to solely terrorize the South into ending the war by targeting only civilians, the debate of just cause would have merit. But that wasn't the case. The deaths of civilians, as in most wars, were the result collateral consequences.
Let's use this as an example. A certain US President DID, in fact, target civilians to end a war. Most historians completely agree with his decision, by the way, because it ended World War 2. If course, I am talking about Truman. I am presuming the poster in question similarly finds Truman's actions repugnant.
Or does he.
I haven't read that one yet. Let me know what you think. Have you read "It Worked for Me" yet? Another great book by another great American, Collin Powell.
I haven't read that one yet. Let me know what you think. Have you read "It Worked for Me" yet? Another great book by another great American, Collin Powell.
Haha. I just have to comment on this. I don't see that as the debate. If Lincoln had decided that his war tactic was to solely terrorize the South into ending the war by targeting only civilians, the debate of just cause would have merit. But that wasn't the case. The deaths of civilians, as in most wars, were the result collateral consequences.
Let's use this as an example. A certain US President DID, in fact, target civilians to end a war. Most historians completely agree with his decision, by the way, because it ended World War 2. If course, I am talking about Truman. I am presuming the poster in question similarly finds Truman's actions repugnant.
Or does he.
Haha. I just have to comment on this. I don't see that as the debate. If Lincoln had decided that his war tactic was to solely terrorize the South into ending the war by targeting only civilians, the debate of just cause would have merit. But that wasn't the case. The deaths of civilians, as in most wars, were the result collateral consequences.
Let's use this as an example. A certain US President DID, in fact, target civilians to end a war. Most historians completely agree with his decision, by the way, because it ended World War 2. If course, I am talking about Truman. I am presuming the poster in question similarly finds Truman's actions repugnant.
Or does he.
The most interesting take on Lincoln ,,that I have found is a book written by prominent scholar Charles Adams ...When In The Course Of Human Events: Arguing The Case Of Southern Secession..
He argues that the CiIvil War was not fought for lofty moral principles ( free the slaves or to preserve the Nation) but competing commercial interest ...
The most interesting take on Lincoln ,,that I have found is a book written by prominent scholar Charles Adams ...When In The Course Of Human Events: Arguing The Case Of Southern Secession..
He argues that the CiIvil War was not fought for lofty moral principles ( free the slaves or to preserve the Nation) but competing commercial interest ...
So you abhor the unintended killing of innocents (whites) which was part of a war to end the intended killing of blacks.
Really, I'm shocked by your position.
Really, I am.
So you abhor the unintended killing of innocents (whites) which was part of a war to end the intended killing of blacks.
Really, I'm shocked by your position.
Really, I am.
The constitution is nothing but a piece of paper with ink on it. The idea that we even need a piece of paper to control government and people, I find perplexing. Especially, considering it's 2014, already. If deities or aliens had wrote had it. Then, I would say it was sacred. I'm baffled as to why I don't need a set of rules to control me and others do? I'm angry and confused that people need to be forced to be humane and civilized.
I believe it's the responsibility of good people in positions of power to use their power for the good of humanity. The scorched earth policy. It's what won the war.
Sherman never ordered the slaughter of women and children or encouraged rape and murder. It was a few loose cannon soldiers that were responsible for heinous acts and war crimes. Am I supposed to be shocked and appalled by this? There will always be loose cannon soldiers that commit heinous acts during war. That's such a weak argument ... and an unbelievably ignorant argument.
I blame the ... I have a constitutional right to own a human, people, and the ... I have a constitutional right to incite and partake in terrorist activity, people, ... for the civil war and habeas corpus. The war should have never happened in the first place. No war ever should... But, people act like savages that need to be tamed or exterminated.
You don't like me because I use common sense. For some strange reason a lot of libertarians, tea partiers, and republican conservatives have a huge issue with common sense. I'm a disciplinarian and humanitarian with libertarian beliefs. You seem to have trouble grasping this?
Agnosticism. Libertarian.
The government should not endorse any religion. Libertarian.
Guns. Libertarian.
Foreign policy and non-interventionism. Libertarian.
Free market principals. Libertarian.
Pro-choice. Libertarian.
Body rights. Libertarian.
Legalizing prostitution. Libertarian.
Legalizing gambling. Libertarian.
Immigration. Libertarian.
Drugs. Libertarian.
Marriage. Libertarian.
Privacy. Libertarian.
Economy. Libertarian.
Health Care. Libertarian.
Free trade. Libertarian.
Regulations. Libertarian.
Bail outs, lobbyists, special interest groups. Libertarian.
Budget/Deficits/Energy. Libertarian.
Environment. Green Libertarian.
Crime. Green Libertarian.
Education. Green Libertarian.
Civil rights. Green Libertarian.
Government Reform. Reform Party Libertarian.
Doug Stanhope, Joe Rogan, and John Stossel are my favorite libertarians.
Rick, it seems pretty clear, I'm a Libertarian.
The constitution is nothing but a piece of paper with ink on it. The idea that we even need a piece of paper to control government and people, I find perplexing. Especially, considering it's 2014, already. If deities or aliens had wrote had it. Then, I would say it was sacred. I'm baffled as to why I don't need a set of rules to control me and others do? I'm angry and confused that people need to be forced to be humane and civilized.
I believe it's the responsibility of good people in positions of power to use their power for the good of humanity. The scorched earth policy. It's what won the war.
Sherman never ordered the slaughter of women and children or encouraged rape and murder. It was a few loose cannon soldiers that were responsible for heinous acts and war crimes. Am I supposed to be shocked and appalled by this? There will always be loose cannon soldiers that commit heinous acts during war. That's such a weak argument ... and an unbelievably ignorant argument.
I blame the ... I have a constitutional right to own a human, people, and the ... I have a constitutional right to incite and partake in terrorist activity, people, ... for the civil war and habeas corpus. The war should have never happened in the first place. No war ever should... But, people act like savages that need to be tamed or exterminated.
You don't like me because I use common sense. For some strange reason a lot of libertarians, tea partiers, and republican conservatives have a huge issue with common sense. I'm a disciplinarian and humanitarian with libertarian beliefs. You seem to have trouble grasping this?
Agnosticism. Libertarian.
The government should not endorse any religion. Libertarian.
Guns. Libertarian.
Foreign policy and non-interventionism. Libertarian.
Free market principals. Libertarian.
Pro-choice. Libertarian.
Body rights. Libertarian.
Legalizing prostitution. Libertarian.
Legalizing gambling. Libertarian.
Immigration. Libertarian.
Drugs. Libertarian.
Marriage. Libertarian.
Privacy. Libertarian.
Economy. Libertarian.
Health Care. Libertarian.
Free trade. Libertarian.
Regulations. Libertarian.
Bail outs, lobbyists, special interest groups. Libertarian.
Budget/Deficits/Energy. Libertarian.
Environment. Green Libertarian.
Crime. Green Libertarian.
Education. Green Libertarian.
Civil rights. Green Libertarian.
Government Reform. Reform Party Libertarian.
Doug Stanhope, Joe Rogan, and John Stossel are my favorite libertarians.
Rick, it seems pretty clear, I'm a Libertarian.
You realize the irony in your last statement. You are talking about interpretive history. This is a point that continues to escape you. We are not talking uncontroverted facts, but you make them so because they fit within your narrow view.
I can google 9/11 truther or Obama shapeshifter and find some fascinating things from minds similar to your own.
Your quote about war is hell pretty much sums it up. I have no doubt that Sherman's march to the sea was littered with dead civilians. But that obfuscates the point. Unlike 9/11 or the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were directed at civilians for different reasons, the Civil War was not. And that is important for the analysis of just cause.
As an aside, I have little doubt that if, instead of the Civil War, Lincoln faught a war against blacks who rebelled and attacked civilians, you would view him more of a hero.
Just sayin'...
You realize the irony in your last statement. You are talking about interpretive history. This is a point that continues to escape you. We are not talking uncontroverted facts, but you make them so because they fit within your narrow view.
I can google 9/11 truther or Obama shapeshifter and find some fascinating things from minds similar to your own.
Your quote about war is hell pretty much sums it up. I have no doubt that Sherman's march to the sea was littered with dead civilians. But that obfuscates the point. Unlike 9/11 or the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were directed at civilians for different reasons, the Civil War was not. And that is important for the analysis of just cause.
As an aside, I have little doubt that if, instead of the Civil War, Lincoln faught a war against blacks who rebelled and attacked civilians, you would view him more of a hero.
Just sayin'...
The constitution is nothing but a piece of paper with ink on it. The idea that we even need a piece of paper to control government and people, I find perplexing. Especially, considering it's 2014, already. If deities or aliens had wrote had it. Then, I would say it was sacred. I'm baffled as to why I don't need a set of rules to control me and others do? I'm angry and confused that people need to be forced to be humane and civilized.
I believe it's the responsibility of good people in positions of power to use their power for the good of humanity. The scorched earth policy. It's what won the war.
Sherman never ordered the slaughter of women and children or encouraged rape and murder. It was a few loose cannon soldiers that were responsible for heinous acts and war crimes. Am I supposed to be shocked and appalled by this? There will always be loose cannon soldiers that commit heinous acts during war. That's such a weak argument ... and an unbelievably ignorant argument.
I blame the ... I have a constitutional right to own a human, people, and the ... I have a constitutional right to incite and partake in terrorist activity, people, ... for the civil war and habeas corpus. The war should have never happened in the first place. No war ever should... But, people act like savages that need to be tamed or exterminated.
You don't like me because I use common sense. For some strange reason a lot of libertarians, tea partiers, and republican conservatives have a huge issue with common sense. I'm a disciplinarian and humanitarian with libertarian beliefs. You seem to have trouble grasping this?
Agnosticism. Libertarian.
The government should not endorse any religion. Libertarian.
Guns. Libertarian.
Foreign policy and non-interventionism. Libertarian.
Free market principals. Libertarian.
Pro-choice. Libertarian.
Body rights. Libertarian.
Legalizing prostitution. Libertarian.
Legalizing gambling. Libertarian.
Immigration. Libertarian.
Drugs. Libertarian.
Marriage. Libertarian.
Privacy. Libertarian.
Economy. Libertarian.
Health Care. Libertarian.
Free trade. Libertarian.
Regulations. Libertarian.
Bail outs, lobbyists, special interest groups. Libertarian.
Budget/Deficits/Energy. Libertarian.
Environment. Green Libertarian.
Crime. Green Libertarian.
Education. Green Libertarian.
Civil rights. Green Libertarian.
Government Reform. Reform Party Libertarian.
Doug Stanhope, Joe Rogan, and John Stossel are my favorite libertarians.
Rick, it seems pretty clear, I'm a Libertarian.
The constitution is nothing but a piece of paper with ink on it. The idea that we even need a piece of paper to control government and people, I find perplexing. Especially, considering it's 2014, already. If deities or aliens had wrote had it. Then, I would say it was sacred. I'm baffled as to why I don't need a set of rules to control me and others do? I'm angry and confused that people need to be forced to be humane and civilized.
I believe it's the responsibility of good people in positions of power to use their power for the good of humanity. The scorched earth policy. It's what won the war.
Sherman never ordered the slaughter of women and children or encouraged rape and murder. It was a few loose cannon soldiers that were responsible for heinous acts and war crimes. Am I supposed to be shocked and appalled by this? There will always be loose cannon soldiers that commit heinous acts during war. That's such a weak argument ... and an unbelievably ignorant argument.
I blame the ... I have a constitutional right to own a human, people, and the ... I have a constitutional right to incite and partake in terrorist activity, people, ... for the civil war and habeas corpus. The war should have never happened in the first place. No war ever should... But, people act like savages that need to be tamed or exterminated.
You don't like me because I use common sense. For some strange reason a lot of libertarians, tea partiers, and republican conservatives have a huge issue with common sense. I'm a disciplinarian and humanitarian with libertarian beliefs. You seem to have trouble grasping this?
Agnosticism. Libertarian.
The government should not endorse any religion. Libertarian.
Guns. Libertarian.
Foreign policy and non-interventionism. Libertarian.
Free market principals. Libertarian.
Pro-choice. Libertarian.
Body rights. Libertarian.
Legalizing prostitution. Libertarian.
Legalizing gambling. Libertarian.
Immigration. Libertarian.
Drugs. Libertarian.
Marriage. Libertarian.
Privacy. Libertarian.
Economy. Libertarian.
Health Care. Libertarian.
Free trade. Libertarian.
Regulations. Libertarian.
Bail outs, lobbyists, special interest groups. Libertarian.
Budget/Deficits/Energy. Libertarian.
Environment. Green Libertarian.
Crime. Green Libertarian.
Education. Green Libertarian.
Civil rights. Green Libertarian.
Government Reform. Reform Party Libertarian.
Doug Stanhope, Joe Rogan, and John Stossel are my favorite libertarians.
Rick, it seems pretty clear, I'm a Libertarian.
You realize the irony in your last statement. You are talking about interpretive history. This is a point that continues to escape you. We are not talking uncontroverted facts, but you make them so because they fit within your narrow view.
I can google 9/11 truther or Obama shapeshifter and find some fascinating things from minds similar to your own.
Your quote about war is hell pretty much sums it up. I have no doubt that Sherman's march to the sea was littered with dead civilians. But that obfuscates the point. Unlike 9/11 or the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were directed at civilians for different reasons, the Civil War was not. And that is important for the analysis of just cause.
As an aside, I have little doubt that if, instead of the Civil War, Lincoln faught a war against blacks who rebelled and attacked civilians, you would view him more of a hero.
Just sayin'...
You realize the irony in your last statement. You are talking about interpretive history. This is a point that continues to escape you. We are not talking uncontroverted facts, but you make them so because they fit within your narrow view.
I can google 9/11 truther or Obama shapeshifter and find some fascinating things from minds similar to your own.
Your quote about war is hell pretty much sums it up. I have no doubt that Sherman's march to the sea was littered with dead civilians. But that obfuscates the point. Unlike 9/11 or the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were directed at civilians for different reasons, the Civil War was not. And that is important for the analysis of just cause.
As an aside, I have little doubt that if, instead of the Civil War, Lincoln faught a war against blacks who rebelled and attacked civilians, you would view him more of a hero.
Just sayin'...
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