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Author: [Politics] Topic: Obama Foreign Policy is George Bush on Steroids
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Posted: 10/10/2012 4:35:27 PM
I know you right wing jobs like to think Obama and Bushy are very different. But when it comes to killing muslims half way around the world, Obama was more bush than bush. I shudder to think what Willard might do if he gets elected. I bet none of this comes up in the debates....

Obamas top hits : 

- He and his aids come up with a kill list and then joystickers in the desert send drones to eradicate them. Further, if there is any collateral death, the term militant has been expanded to include ANYBODY who was in the area when the drone struck! It wasnt an innocent man, it was a militant! Otherwise why would that man be in the area where drones struck?

- He has presided over a MASSIVE expansion in NSA secret surveilance of american citizens

- He has made more documents classified than any other president in history

- He has NOT closed Gitmo

- He has not stopped military tribunals

- He has kept CIA renditions

- He has built the Utah Data Center. a heavily fortified $2B NSA building that will be monitoring email, phones, credit cards and anything else you do.

- before Obama there were 44 drone strikes. under obama there have been over 250

same old same old same old.....
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Posted: 10/10/2012 5:00:50 PM

feel your freedoms slipping away?

 

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Posted: 10/11/2012 6:35:42 AM
but, but, but.............

hope and change

he is just stretching the truth, not a liar

its for our own good, you know security


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Posted: 10/11/2012 8:14:42 AM

Not to mention the dead Ambassador and Embassy attacks all over the world including another one this morning in Yemen.

Obama is a clown.

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Posted: 10/11/2012 8:26:06 AM
i am curious to see if any of this comes up in the last debate. i doubt it. obama would run from it and mitt loves it and would do more of it and expand it.


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Posted: 10/11/2012 9:17:02 AM
i misspoke on the utah data center. construction started under obama, but the planning/approval was under bush....
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Posted: 10/11/2012 9:47:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by AustinHoopDream:

I know you right wing jobs like to think Obama and Bushy are very different. But when it comes to killing muslims half way around the world, Obama was more bush than bush. I shudder to think what Willard might do if he gets elected. I bet none of this comes up in the debates....

Obamas top hits : 

- He and his aids come up with a kill list and then joystickers in the desert send drones to eradicate them. Further, if there is any collateral death, the term militant has been expanded to include ANYBODY who was in the area when the drone struck! It wasnt an innocent man, it was a militant! Otherwise why would that man be in the area where drones struck?

- He has presided over a MASSIVE expansion in NSA secret surveilance of american citizens

- He has made more documents classified than any other president in history

- He has NOT closed Gitmo

- He has not stopped military tribunals

- He has kept CIA renditions

- He has built the Utah Data Center. a heavily fortified $2B NSA building that will be monitoring email, phones, credit cards and anything else you do.

- before Obama there were 44 drone strikes. under obama there have been over 250

same old same old same old.....


why do you think he's doing this?
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:03:40 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ClubDirt:



why do you think he's doing this?


i am rather indifferent to why he is doing this and i do not subscribe to the ends justify the means. coming into office either Obama was very naive or a wonderful liar. these responses are analgesic rather than proscriptive. the answer is not to kill those who hate us, but to understand why they hate us how we can unwind the vicious cycle.

at any rate, i was thinking more in terms of how Romney might attack Obama on foreign policy. i think this post is a pretty good template on how to go about it.


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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:05:38 AM
presidents are puppets  
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:13:28 AM
yeah, i don't think he's naive, i think he's a liar and a puppet. but i would have expected him to at least make a better effort.  you know, there are people out there who actually can put our problems in the middle east in perspective given our constant interference with these countries and who also value the lives of our soldiers and other innocent people.   (those people who value the lives of our soldiers and dark skinned people don't go by the name, rightwingers). 
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:22:18 AM
i find it rather ironic that many on the right accuse obama of being a secret muslim and hell bent on supporting islam and introducing sharia law into the united states, yet are viciously and perhaps willfully unaware that obama has made it his personal mission to kill as many muslims as quickly and quietly as he possibly can. the vast majority of the extreme right 'hoot and hollerers' dont have the vaguest notion that by all outward appearances and actions obama hates muslims more than they do.



 
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:26:10 AM
you can't be a rightwinger and have any sort of grasp on reality.  maybe obama is trying to overcompensate on this issue that he's a secret muslim by killing as many as he can.   rightwingers should appreciate that strategy because it's consistent with being so hardcore against happy marriage when many of them are closet .  it's really the only explanation why rightwingers are so adamant about that issue. 
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:33:08 AM
i suppose you are correct. i have many republican friends and most are obstinate on all issues and tend to get angry rather quickly. there are a few with whom i can have a reasoned debate and the outcome becomes a real philosophical difference of opinion that does not have to end with venom and anger. sadly, that seems to be the exception rather than the norm. somehow anger, energy and vitriol have become the calling cards of the right wing. it must be rather tiring becoming apoplectic about everything.




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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:37:20 AM
yeah, i don't equate republican with rightwing.  obviously, there are many reasonable republicans who can appreciate the significant problems within their party and also can appropriately evaluate obama.  the rightwing are just the crazy, irrational drones that can't be objective about anything.  no shortage of them unfortunately. 
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Posted: 10/11/2012 10:49:20 AM
i am very excited to see the next debate. curious to see how obama responds. there is no excuse for a trained attorney like obama to get slapped around like he did. its was brutal
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Posted: 10/12/2012 9:50:53 AM
Bullshit.  How many wars did Bush start and end?  How many wars did Obama start and end?

Here's a hint.  2 and 0; 0 and 1.
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Posted: 10/12/2012 12:40:51 PM
that is the beauty of it. obama does not have to start a war. he can kill anyone he wants whenever he wants and not tell or ask permission for any of it.

he has maintained and greatly EXPANDED many of bush's fucked up policies.


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