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Posted: 7/7/2012 2:26:17 AM
Regardless of President, US economy is expected to have a slow recovery after previous recession.  Jobs growth normally take longer to recover than other economic indicators.  Unlike the past, many Americans have excess debt.  So US is less likely to borrow and spend its way to prosperity.   Since US economy improved after the recession,  Obama still outperformed Bush in his last term.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 9:43:10 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by esplanade:



Are you done embarrassing yourself?
They couldn't pass anything unless they had 60 votes??
Are you drunk???
What the hell is the whole house????
If you believe there are conservative Democrats, do you believe in the tooth fairy?????

And yeah, ousting obama should be the goal of the Republican Party, but not because of racism, as you would narrow mindedly scream, but because America is devolving under his lack of leadership.

Yikes
Their called blue dog democrats, moron, their republicans the pretend to be democrats. They are a part of the sabotage coalition.

The Democratic Party is an illusion of choice. Democrats have no real power. Obama did try his first 2 years to be bipartisan. Then republicans spit in his face and started throwing bananas at him every time he tried. Throwing out subtle messages that’s he UN-American, not born here, different, and let us not forget the whole, “YOU LIE!” racist republican moment in history.  

Republicans own this country. They are the brightest at playing the game of politics. The southern strategy, blue dog democrats, the tea party caucus, sabotaging the country to win elections, saying you’re anti-American if your not a republican, using silly faith, scare tactics, family values, homophobia, and racism to win elections.

Democrats did do everything they could to make bush look bad, I’m not disputing that, but I will say I’ve never seen democrats intentionally “Sabotage” the country on purpose to win elections.

Why do people give credit to presidents for job growth? The president doesn’t control the private sector. If presidents do control job growth, that would be communist fascism. Presidents can control “government” job growth, but the idea that he controls the private sector is a joke.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 10:26:38 AM
Those were MODERATE democrats, doofus. You can define them however you choose, but anyone without 150 proof breath (do all democrats have a drinking problem?.......burp.....Kennedys) saw them as middle of the road. Your party became beholden to the far left wackos.

If you don't think presidential policies dictate job growth, you're too green for this forum. Look at the Dakotas, the success there on private land, and the obama desperation to kill that success.

If that doesn't paint you a picture in braille......

Laughably scary.

Also tough to take you seriously when you don't understand the difference.......their/they're/there. First word no less.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 11:32:40 AM
.  keep talking about those minimum wage jobs while ronnie looked the other way and let his buddies in the corporations start moving jobs overseas



Please provide facts or data supporting this contention.
Note: it is a fact that  at the end of Reagan's Presidency the median income stood at $47, 614 (again in constant 2008 dollars), 8.1 per cent higher than when Jimmy Carter left office in 1980.
Please explain how minimum wage jobs lead to this result.

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His Presidency was the start of our country going downhill and where corporations took complete control of our government.

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Please provide facts or data supporting this contention.


Notice how you dont mention nothing about the trillions ronnie boy cost tax payers with his war on drugs bullshit. One of the biggest scams ever pushed on the American people.



Er, the Democrats controlled the House the entirety of the Reagan Presidency and the Senate for 6 of the 8 years. Given that, please explain how the President is able to launch the "war on drugs" when the Democrats had to go along?

Oh, you can't, you drooling imbecile.



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Posted: 7/7/2012 12:08:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by esplanade:

Those were MODERATE democrats, doofus. You can define them however you choose, but anyone without 150 proof breath (do all democrats have a drinking problem?.......burp.....Kennedys) saw them as middle of the road. Your party became beholden to the far left wackos.

If you don't think presidential policies dictate job growth, you're too green for this forum. Look at the Dakotas, the success there on private land, and the obama desperation to kill that success.

If that doesn't paint you a picture in braille......

Laughably scary.

Also tough to take you seriously when you don't understand the difference.......their/they're/there. First word no less.
Dammit, you got me. I didn't even proofread before I pressed submit. You crazy republicans sure do understand punctuation and grammar.

I guess when you guys read that's all you look for. You're like those dumbass professors who will give you a failing grade for one mistake, even though, everything I said was right.
Out of everything I posted you chose to attack "their"? WOW

That's friggin scary...

You're calling blue dog democrats, moderate? That's like saying there's moderate republicans.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 12:22:04 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 14daroad:

.  keep talking about those minimum wage jobs while ronnie looked the other way and let his buddies in the corporations start moving jobs overseas



Please provide facts or data supporting this contention.
Note: it is a fact that  at the end of Reagan's Presidency the median income stood at $47, 614 (again in constant 2008 dollars), 8.1 per cent higher than when Jimmy Carter left office in 1980.
Please explain how minimum wage jobs lead to this result.

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His Presidency was the start of our country going downhill and where corporations took complete control of our government.

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Please provide facts or data supporting this contention.


Notice how you dont mention nothing about the trillions ronnie boy cost tax payers with his war on drugs bullshit. One of the biggest scams ever pushed on the American people.



Er, the Democrats controlled the House the entirety of the Reagan Presidency and the Senate for 6 of the 8 years. Given that, please explain how the President is able to launch the "war on drugs" when the Democrats had to go along?

Oh, you can't, you drooling imbecile.



Derrr, Nixon started the war on drugs

Reagan amplified it using values and scare tactics.

For the first six years of the Reagan presidency (1981-87), the Republicans controlled the Senate, and the Democrats the House of Representatives. There was blue dog democrats back then also.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 12:26:39 PM
Democrats also fell for the WMDs presentation also. You tricky republicans are great at selling bullshit.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 12:34:55 PM

What a bunch of brain dead kids on this site, that dont even know how our government works and who runs it.

Let me say this for the last time Presidents dont have a magic wand to create jobs, corporations create jobs, along with small business owners.

Well in the the 80's {which most of you know nothing about because you were all still in your daddys loins} jobs were still being created here in AMERICA, then the greedy corporations got the idea with the help of that piece of garbage ronnie reagan, your idol opened the door to corporations sending jobs overseas so that they could hire slave labor and make bigger profits.  Well that is still continuing today at an alarming rate. Thats because no corporations care about their country and people anymore, they only care about putting bigger profits in their pockets.

And all you whackos can come back with your bullshit posts about regulations and taxes being the reason, but thats 100 percent bullshit and if you stopped listening to the nutcases feeding you that bull and instead actually used your own mind, you could figure it out also.

Our governement could tell corporations they dont have to pay any taxes if they just broght the jobs back here and you know what those corporations would say?  They would laugh and say no fuckin way, we already dont pay taxes, why would we give up the slave labor wages we pay people overseas?  Paying our people slave labor wages like they pay people overseas is the only way they would bring jobs back here.

Are you dopes or willing to work for those kind of wages?  Do you want your kids working for those kind of wages, just so jobs can be created here?

Some of you go around this site acting like you can solve the countries problems because your Gods gift to mankind, but the truth is you guys dont have the slightest clue, because if you did, you wouldnt be wasting time trying to convince people on the political forum of a gambling website

If your all so smart, especially you twirpy copy and paste boy {I dont think you have ever posted one thought from your own mind. everything you post comes from other people and what is really funny is just because you post somebody elses info, that it has to be 100 percent true.  news flash twirpy, just because you post something that doesnt make it true} turn the computer off and get out their in the real world and save the country.

also isnt it amazing how you right wing nut cases love to keep talking about ronnies so called 18 million jobs, but i havent heard one fuckin peep out of you guys over the trillions of dollars our country has wasted away and is still wasting away today on that huge scam pulled on the American people called "THE WAR ON DRUGS"

That trumps those 18 million jobs, hands down.

Now go back to the disney forum and play with the kids who are your own age and leave the adults here alone.

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Posted: 7/7/2012 2:16:37 PM
Oh sh1t !  Feels like Saturday College Football has kicked-off in here !!

CD329 ~

I think 14daroad may actually be Ann Coulter !!
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Posted: 7/7/2012 2:17:02 PM
Kool-Aid man, I agree with you. I doubt the people, that post was directed at will understand anything you just said. They will be focused on how you spelled dont and not don’t. One of them will highlight one sentence to try to dismiss everything you said. You can be 99 percent correct, and you still are wrong because of a stupid technicality.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 2:27:08 PM
Damn, cd just killed it in this thread.

I'm waiting for 14daroad to come back with his response where he imitates a teenage girl with the "he like really is so popular" response he goes to in Obama threads.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 2:44:48 PM

BOXED ~ 14DAROAD ?  Why  ??

LINESMAN ~ If 14daroad was boxed for a particular post in this thread,please cite the reason as an example of what COVERS members should NOT type.

ThanX,
BTW,WSC's is gr8 !  Jus' want to do a little brown-nosin'.

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Posted: 7/7/2012 6:20:20 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

Dammit, you got me. I didn't even proofread before I pressed submit. You crazy republicans sure do understand punctuation and grammar.

I guess when you guys read that's all you look for. You're like those dumbass professors who will give you a failing grade for one mistake, even though, everything I said was right.
Out of everything I posted you chose to attack "their"? WOW

That's friggin scary...

You're calling blue dog democrats, moderate? That's like saying there's moderate republicans.


Nope that was just the capper. The ridiculous part of your post was trying to pass the blue dogs off as conservatives. That's absurd.
A three roller.

Stop. No just stop.

And no, you're right, there aren't any moderate republicans...........
Do you realize how inane you sound.

The hard left makes the far right look like boy scouts.
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Posted: 7/7/2012 11:10:13 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by esplanade:



Nope that was just the capper. The ridiculous part of your post was trying to pass the blue dogs off as conservatives. That's absurd.
A three roller.

Stop. No just stop.

And no, you're right, there aren't any moderate republicans...........
Do you realize how inane you sound.

The hard left makes the far right look like boy scouts.
Democrats call Blue dogs "Republicans in Democrats Clothing." They're basically centrist republicans. If there is such a thing. You're either a terrorist republican or you're not. There's no in between.  It's like when I hear people call breitbart a libertarian. If there is a hell, that guy is sitting next to bull connor in hell.
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Posted: 7/8/2012 12:28:18 AM

Esplande, go back to the disney forum with the little twirp da road because your both clueless.

 

Currently, the Blue Dog Coalition is comprised of 25 conservative and moderate members who represent every corner of the country and continue to work to end the divisive and toxic nature of politics today. They work with members of both parties to find areas of compromise and to advance public policies that benefit the entire nation. 

The Blue Dogs also have a number of policy task forces focused on the important issues facing our nation today, including: small business development, federal oversight and regulatory review, and energy independence.

Blue Dogs are not beholden to any political party leadership, but rather the constituents they represent

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Posted: 7/8/2012 2:32:51 AM

Agree with alot of what you said cd, as well as money. It's funny how when you talk to the partisan right wingers about unemployment/job creation, they love to avoid any perspective or relevant context. No mention of the natural carryover & total loss of jobs in the 1st 6-8 mos of the Obama presidency (that had very little to nothing to do with him) or private sector job gains in the past 2.5 yrs or the absolutely anemic job growth under Bush (2nd worst ever, dad's was worst) despite a slight, long-term monthly GDP gain, the number of manufacturing jobs lost under Bush combined with the increasing #'s of jobs going overseas. This combined with the prevailing global economy, tight banks & no cooperation whatsoever from day 1 with the repubs...only blockage. Not to mention the # of public sector jobs that went on the Bush record & the number of those cut during Obama's tenure.

As usual, the modern GOP & their followers always harken back to an idealistic, value based ideaolgy that just doesn't exist anymore (if it ever did) that has the power to incite & inspire the sheep & less knowledgeable partisans, while not offering any depthful thought or solutions to real & existing problems. As Mitch McConnell as steadfastly said from the beginning, the main & primary focus has been to make Obama a 1 term prez & that's about it in a nutshell. In that regard, he's been the most honest GOP'r of all - 

  

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Posted: 7/8/2012 2:52:29 AM

Cashin, excellent post

Theres no use having any type of debate with the whacko right wingers. They think that they are Gods gift to mankind and everything they say and do is always right.

Personally i have said many times when democrats are wrong on things, but you will never ever see one of these jokers say their party is wrong, never.

Hell they believe democrats dont pay taxes and the country is being funded on the back of tax paying republicans.  Thats the kind of mind set were dealing with.  very sad

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Posted: 7/8/2012 3:08:52 AM

cd 

Agreed, I'm not that high on Obama & admit I'm disappointed in the way he has handled & did some things... & didn't fight harder for others. Also, unions are not at all what they once were & I'm not surprised they turn off alot of folks or at least don't unify them the way they once did. But nowadays most of the GOP stuff to me is just bullshit & unfortunately a guy like Romney is a perfect & fitting candidate for 'em. Sad indeed & I can't even see how a true conservative could vote for that guy regardless of how they feel about Obama -

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Posted: 7/8/2012 1:20:32 PM
Lets get this thread back up there, right wingers are playing their childish games of bumping up old threads when they have been girl slapped
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Posted: 7/8/2012 1:50:46 PM
That's right it's always the fault of someone else to the Democratic drones. CD has the perfect icon......he's gulping the koolaid. It is amazing though how often cashin mentions the recession that clinton left Bush in 2001......kudos to him for his non-partisianship.



OOPs!! Guess not.

Hacks on the left. dodging, distorting, denying

Why does the left blatantly hate America??
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Posted: 7/8/2012 2:34:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by esplanade:

That's right it's always the fault of someone else to the Democratic drones. CD has the perfect icon......he's gulping the koolaid. It is amazing though how often cashin mentions the recession that clinton left Bush in 2001......kudos to him for his non-partisianship.



OOPs!! Guess not.

Hacks on the left. dodging, distorting, denying

Why does the left blatantly hate America??


You're friggin kidding right?? The recession that clinton left bush?


10 X Roller on that one!!!!!

Clinton created more jobs than both the bush's and reagan combined you moronic behind clown.
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Posted: 7/8/2012 2:40:44 PM

Stilin, dont pay any attention to the guy. Hes a complete headcase.

If he saw a republican shoot an old lady with his own 2 eyes, he would say a democrat did it

ask him how his republican idol ronnie boy has cost our country trillions of dollars on the scam called the war on drugs.  You will get total silence from these bozos when you ask that

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Posted: 7/8/2012 2:41:31 PM

esplanade - you're kidding, right? You mean the natural downturn the economy took after more new jobs were created (23M) than under any admin in history while lowering the deficit in every year of Clinton's tenure? While at the same time helping lower the unemployment rate to 4% (lowest since '69) after inheriting a 6.9 rate in '93...not to mention the high GDP growth rate.

Conversely, though Bush inherited a much larger economy in better shape, he had the worst job creation record in modern history as the deficit shot skyward & left the economy in a shambles...at 7.2% unemployment & losing 600/700K jobs per month. This despite a modest avg of 2% GDP growth & plenty of public sector jobs which is very telling in itself. Who's really doing the distorting & dodging here? 

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Posted: 7/8/2012 2:55:56 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

They're called blue dog democrats, moron, they're republicans the pretend to be democrats. They are a part of the sabotage coalition.

The Democratic Party is an illusion of choice. Democrats have no real power. Obama did try his first 2 years to be bipartisan. Then republicans spit in his face and started throwing bananas at him every time he tried. Throwing out subtle messages that he's UN-American, not born here, different, and let us not forget the whole, “YOU LIE!” racist republican moment in history.  

Republicans own this country. They're the brightest at playing the game of politics. The southern strategy, blue dog democrats, the tea party caucus, sabotaging the country to win elections, saying you’re anti-American if your not a republican, using silly faith, scare tactics, family values, homophobia, and racism to win elections.

Democrats did do everything they could to make bush look bad, I’m not disputing that, but I will say I’ve never seen democrats intentionally “Sabotage” the country on purpose to win elections.

Why do people give credit to presidents for job growth? The president doesn’t control the private sector. If presidents do control job growth, that would be communist fascism. Presidents can control “government” job growth, but the idea that he controls the private sector is a joke.
I predicted what esplanade was going to say in post # 52

What the hell are you talking about kool-aid man? Do you even pay attention? Blue dogs constantly vote against the president. I look at the screen on c-span and I see ALL republicans vote against the president and always see between 10 - 20 blue dog democrats vote against the president to distance themselves from him for re-election. Screw bi-partisanship... I always say you can't negotiate with terrorists. 
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Posted: 7/9/2012 3:43:54 AM
Let me just say that I'm very happy that the clown of the year 14daroad has been put in the penalty box. What an uneducated moronic example of a person completely devoid of any common sense or original thought. It's quite amazing actually. This guy drinks all the Kool-Aid that the Right Wing Wackos have poured out and comes back to drink more. 
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