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Posted: 4/18/2012 9:36:57 PM
Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester, Jr., who's been on the bench 15 years and has a great deal of experience with high-profile murder cases, on Wednesday was assigned the George Zimmerman murder case.

It was originally given to Circuit Judge Jessica Recksiedler, but she recused herself Wednesday after Zimmerman's attorney asked her to step aside because of a possible conflict of interest: Her husband is the law partner of Mark NeJame, who's been hired to comment on the case for CNN.

All criminal cases in Seminole County are assigned by chance, based on a rotation system. Next up in that rotation was Circuit Judge John Galluzzo. He, though, could not accept the case because he formerly practiced law with Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara.

O'Mara is also the godfather of one of Galluzzo's four children.

So Galluzzo stepped aside, passing the case to the next judge: Lester.

Bond hearing. It'll start at 9 a.m. Friday ..

Lester, 58, was elected judge in 1996 by challenging an incumbent.

He is popular with attorneys, including Wayne Klinkbeil, who was an assistant public defender assigned to Lester's courtroom in 1997. Lester, he said, is a very good judge.

He is consistent and a tough sentencer, Klinkbeil said, "very in control of his courtroom, very straightforward."

In court, Lester is very by-the-book. He calls defendants "sir," and expects people to be on time. On Jan. 18, 2005, he had at least three defendants taken into custody when they showed up for court late.

The judge's daughter, Alexandra Lester, 26, a member of the Florida Bar, said she has never saw her father agonize over a ruling.

"He basically told me it should not be hard to make the right decision if you follow the law," she said.

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Posted: 4/18/2012 11:57:36 PM

Regardless who the judge is,
racial unity has rendered strain.

Al SharptonGUE and Trayvon's mother have said that 'justice' will be served when Zimmerman is found guilty of murder.

They weren't only seeking an arrest as 'justice' as they asserted,they are seeking a part of Zimmerman's life,notwithstanding truth and facts.

No trial or a not guilty verdict may cause an irreparable racial divide.
Let's hope for  to prevail.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 12:42:27 AM

Trayvon's mother said a lot of thing's ..one of those thing's was when she was speaking from the heart on the The Today Show...

"I believe it was an accident. I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn’t turn the clock back."

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Posted: 4/19/2012 12:45:24 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Trayvon's mother said a lot of thing's ..one of those thing's was when she was speaking from the heart on the The Today Show...

"I believe it was an accident. I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn’t turn the clock back."



Not evidence.  Will have no bearing on facts applied to the law.
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Posted: 4/19/2012 1:22:11 AM
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Not evidence.  Will have no bearing on facts applied to the law.

If you are true to yourself then you have to find it very interesting that she said that. Bearing or no bering. Thats all slim was saying.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 1:24:24 AM
so you're speaking for sarasotaSpin and what he was saying...

you guys are too funny
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Not evidence.  Will have no bearing on facts applied to the law.

D,if she is put on the witness stand and testifies, that the voice on the tape screaming was Trayvons...she will be asked on cross "did you also say ..you believed it was an accident,that got out of control?"..when we babbles around on the stand .. like she did trying to retract what she said the next day ...it won't be pretty ..

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Posted: 4/19/2012 12:41:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

D,if she is put on the witness stand and testifies, that the voice on the tape screaming was Trayvons...she will be asked on cross "did you also say ..you believed it was an accident,that got out of control?"..when we babbles around on the stand .. like she did trying to retract what she said the next day ...it won't be pretty ..

  Slim, that's my point. She 'clarified' that what she intended to convey was that the situation itself was an overall accident,meaning that it should never happened.
However,she believes Zimmerman sought Trayvon for the purpose of harming Trayvon and therefore believes Z's actions were indeed non-accidental.

This is already plenty ugly and moving forward wont be pretty.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 12:48:47 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36:

so you're speaking for sarasotaSpin and what he was saying...

you guys are too funny



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Posted: 4/19/2012 12:50:19 PM

Spin ?

Where has Slim efforted spin in this particular thread ?

lQQks like someone is bashing and harassing for the sake of bashing and harassing.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 2:16:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by OakleyDoak:

Regardless who the judge is,
racial unity has rendered strain.

Al SharptonGUE and Trayvon's mother have said that 'justice' will be served when Zimmerman is found guilty of murder.

They weren't only seeking an arrest as 'justice' as they asserted,they are seeking a part of Zimmerman's life,notwithstanding truth and facts.

 

Interesting you don't note that those on the other end of the spectrum (your fellow white right wingers) all assert Zimmerman's innocence.

Wonder why that is?

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Posted: 4/19/2012 2:58:45 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

D,if she is put on the witness stand and testifies, that the voice on the tape screaming was Trayvons...she will be asked on cross "did you also say ..you believed it was an accident,that got out of control?"..when we babbles around on the stand .. like she did trying to retract what she said the next day ...it won't be pretty ..



I would object to that.  Those are completely unrelated issues, one does not open the door to the other.  She could testify on her expertise as to his voice on the tape.  As to what exactly happened that night, she wasn't there and hasn't spoken to anyone that was.  What could she possibly competently testify to?  Her opinion, whether or not clarified, is no more admissible than my opinion or your opinion.  It's not based on anything admissible.
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Posted: 4/19/2012 2:59:54 PM
dj, do you agree with me on that?
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Posted: 4/19/2012 3:17:15 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Interesting you don't note that those on the other end of the spectrum (your fellow white right wingers) all assert Zimmerman's innocence.

Wonder why that is?

 

One person knew the cops were coming, one didn't.

One person had done the same thing a number of times before with much different outcomes.

One person had saved neighbors stuff from being stolen before.

One person had possessed stolen property before.

The right wingers being in agreement with that which makes the most sense is purely coincedence.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 3:29:24 PM
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I would object to that.  Those are completely unrelated issues, one does not open the door to the other.  She could testify on her expertise as to his voice on the tape.  As to what exactly happened that night, she wasn't there and hasn't spoken to anyone that was.  What could she possibly competently testify to?  Her opinion, whether or not clarified, is no more admissible than my opinion or your opinion.  It's not based on anything admissible.

She cannot testify to anything that occurred during the encounter.

She could testify as to why her son left home and where she believed he was going.

She can testify as to if the voice on tape sounds like her son.

That's it.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 3:31:42 PM
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One person knew the cops were coming, one didn't.

Conjecture and irrelevant

One person had done the same thing a number of times before with much different outcomes.

Conjecture and irrelevant

One person had saved neighbors stuff from being stolen before.

Conjecture and irrelevant

One person had possessed stolen property before.

Conjecture and irrelevant

The right wingers being in agreement with that which makes the most sense is purely coincedence.

Right wingers and most sense is an oxymoron.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 3:32:14 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

She cannot testify to anything that occurred during the encounter.

She could testify as to why her son left home and where she believed he was going.

She can testify as to if the voice on tape sounds like her son.

That's it.

How could she possibly know where he was going unless he called her to tell her?

 

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Posted: 4/19/2012 3:41:25 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

How could she possibly know where he was going unless he called her to tell her?

 

Exactly. She could only testify as to where he stated he was going.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 4:47:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Interesting you don't note that those on the other end of the spectrum (your fellow white right wingers) all assert Zimmerman's innocence.

Wonder why that is?

    Malfeasance is unbecoming of a Covers linesmen !!

I don't know what any member's color or ethnicity is. Although I could apply conjecture or stereotype as you do.

I've only read where members assert why they think Zimmerman may be innocent based upon the facts as have been released,members' political preference notwithstanding.

A jury member may find a defendant innocent or guilty,jury member's political preference notwithstanding.
But,I don't think you're serious with these allusions.

Are you unsure of my political affiliations ?

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QUOTE Originally Posted by OakleyDoak:

    Malfeasance is unbecoming of a Covers linesmen !!

I don't know what any member's color or ethnicity is. Although I could apply conjecture or stereotype as you do.

I've only read where members assert why they think Zimmerman may be innocent based upon the facts as have been released,members' political preference notwithstanding.

A jury member may find a defendant innocent or guilty,jury member's political preference notwithstanding.
But,I don't think you're serious with these allusions.

Are you unsure of my political affiliations ?

Your far right wing mentality denotes itself.

But my point was in post two, you pointed out the racial divide and specifically used two black people as examples of those looking at certain facts to assume guilt.

Wouldn't the same apply to your fellow white far right wingers who assume innocence?

Or perhaps you can link one right wing poster here who suggests otherwise? If you aren't sure who those might be, just look for all the posters with whom you agree with.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 5:05:30 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Exactly. She could only testify as to where he stated he was going.

Conjecture. No evidence or idea that such a phone call existed.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Your far right wing mentality denotes itself.

But my point was in post two, you pointed out the racial divide and specifically used two black people as examples of those looking at certain facts to assume guilt.

Wouldn't the same apply to your fellow white far right wingers who assume innocence?

Or perhaps you can link one right wing poster here who suggests otherwise? If you aren't sure who those might be, just look for all the posters with whom you agree with.

As does your far left wing mentality.

Its amazing how you rarely challenge one who you agree with even after taking flak for it continueously.

When was the last time you challenged one of your fellow far left wingers in the same way you challenge the opposite?

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Posted: 4/19/2012 5:10:49 PM
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Conjecture. No evidence or idea that such a phone call existed.

You understand that she could testify IF he stated where he was going or where he was.

She can testify to any relevant statement he made involving this situation, if she testifies that such a statement was made, whether it was in person or before or during the encounter.

Whether evidence exists to dispute such a statement being made is another matter.

Sorry to ruin your one opportunity for a Perry Mason moment. Surely you will have many in your own mind, however.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 5:14:28 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

As does your far left wing mentality.

Its amazing how you rarely challenge one who you agree with even after taking flak for it continueously.

When was the last time you challenged one of your fellow far left wingers in the same way you challenge the opposite?

Not too many lefties admit to voting for more Republicans than Dems.

Just far right lackies like yourself fail to see that.

I have stated my position on the Zimmerman matter more times than you can count. I neither see his innocence nor guilt at this point in time.

What is it like to never have a thought of your own? To wake up everyday and not have any idea what to do, until you can turn on Fox or check the heritage foundation website so you know what to think, eat, and breath?

You should try pragmatism for a change.

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Posted: 4/19/2012 5:17:33 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

You understand that she could testify IF he stated where he was going or where he was.

She can testify to any relevant statement he made involving this situation, if she testifies that such a statement was made, whether it was in person or before or during the encounter.

Whether evidence exists to dispute such a statement being made is another matter.

Sorry to ruin your one opportunity for a Perry Mason moment. Surely you will have many in your own mind, however.

 "Ya...ma...I know you're miles away from me neverythin' but im fidna jet on down to da sev for some peppermint ice t and some candy! Ya dig? Peace out!"

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