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#1 Posted: 4/11/2012 11:55:43 PM
President Obama ran on a platform of Hope and Change in his last run for president...
Will he still be using Hope and Change this time? Or has he changed his catch phrase and if so what is it now?
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#2 Posted: 4/12/2012 12:03:47 AM
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#3 Posted: 4/12/2012 12:05:24 AM
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#4 Posted: 4/12/2012 4:37:23 AM 
Surely there is at least one democrat here that knows something...
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#5 Posted: 4/12/2012 5:15:21 AM
I am not with the one percent
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#6 Posted: 4/12/2012 5:25:04 AM 
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#7 Posted: 4/12/2012 6:01:01 AM
I think clubdirt put it correctly...
the generic slogan of the opposition is "change and progress"... for the people currently power the generic slogan is " opposing change and progress"...
democrats are better salesmen and their base is charmed by "change and progress" talk... So it has been funny to watch the teaparty try to play that role with their marches on washington and RV tours....
republicans are better at being against progress and change... so to have obama in this position is different then 2008... I think that Obama running on what he has done or is doing will not work as well as what he has not done or is doing...
We are not in iraq... probably the biggest issue for voters in 2008...
We are not dumping large amounts money, lives and resource towards the war on terror in the name of getting bin ladin but never catching him... We are not living in the culture of the terror alert color setting the pulse of the nation...
Obama might try to make himself look like the savior of the economy, auto industry, healthcare etc... running to the rescue with bailouts and attention...
but rand to answer your question very simply... the campaign slogan for obama will be "4 more years"... its about and honest and straight forward as can be...
So for the GOP to make fun of "hope and change" since 2008 and a basic negative association with it was probably not a good idea because that is what they are selling in 2012... It could be said that the tea party momentum came from the "change and progress" sentiment as it was simply about changing who ever was in office regardless of party... well... that and other strong emotional themes
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#8 Posted: 4/12/2012 7:08:40 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36:
and so is romney... so %1 wins either way...
I think clubdirt put it correctly...
the generic slogan of the opposition is "change and progress"... for the people currently power the generic slogan is " opposing change and progress"...
democrats are better salesmen and their base is charmed by "change and progress" talk... So it has been funny to watch the teaparty try to play that role with their marches on washington and RV tours....
republicans are better at being against progress and change... so to have obama in this position is different then 2008... I think that Obama running on what he has done or is doing will not work as well as what he has not done or is doing...
We are not in iraq... probably the biggest issue for voters in 2008...
We are not dumping large amounts money, lives and resource towards the war on terror in the name of getting bin ladin but never catching him... We are not living in the culture of the terror alert color setting the pulse of the nation...
Obama might try to make himself look like the savior of the economy, auto industry, healthcare etc... running to the rescue with bailouts and attention...
but rand to answer your question very simply... the campaign slogan for obama will be "4 more years"... its about and honest and straight forward as can be...
So for the GOP to make fun of "hope and change" since 2008 and a basic negative association with it was probably not a good idea because that is what they are selling in 2012... It could be said that the tea party momentum came from the "change and progress" sentiment as it was simply about changing who ever was in office regardless of party... well... that and other strong emotional themes
dl,
Good answer... Appreciate you elaborating on your view point.
I get the feeling we will be on opposite sides of the vote in November but there is still a lot of time till the vote.
Again...
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#10 Posted: 4/12/2012 8:51:43 AM  Remember Trayvon/Vote for Obama |
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#11 Posted: 4/12/2012 9:16:11 AM |
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#12 Posted: 4/12/2012 9:40:51 AM He doesn't need a slogan this time. The election has already been won.
If he did, could steal anything the GOP says and use that as a slogan.
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#13 Posted: 4/12/2012 9:42:16 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Remember Trayvon/Vote for Obama
slim says some funny garbage from time to time. 
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#14 Posted: 4/12/2012 9:48:32 AM
I agree.
from what I have seen so far, his posts are usually well thought out, well presented, well researched, and often funny and sarcastic |
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#15 Posted: 4/12/2012 9:50:21 AM |
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#16 Posted: 4/12/2012 9:50:50 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by J_Galt:
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I agree.
from what I have seen so far, his posts are usually well thought out, well presented, well researched, and often funny and sarcastic
let's not get carried away.
just kidding.
(not really though.)
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#17 Posted: 4/12/2012 9:51:40 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by J_Galt:
@#13
I agree.
from what I have seen so far, his posts are usually well thought out, well presented, well researched, and often funny and sarcastic
you're thinking of a fella that goes by the name----- friedshrimp.
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#18 Posted: 4/12/2012 10:10:49 AM
" stream of consciousness "
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#19 Posted: 4/12/2012 10:39:40 AM FriedShrimp 
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#20 Posted: 4/12/2012 10:40:32 AM The real slogan will be released today at 8:30 EST time.
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#21 Posted: 4/12/2012 11:12:38 AM "FAIR SHARE"
He wants to push divison and envy over any type of unity
rich vs poor
white vs black
men vs women
happy vs straight
legal vs illegal
etc, etc so on and so forth
It should be called "DIVIDE AND CONQUER"
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#22 Posted: 4/12/2012 12:44:52 PM  Fried's account has to have been hacked!!!
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