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#1 Posted: 3/27/2012 4:58:10 PM It seems like a majority of the posters on this site are across
the board liberal or across the board conservative. Look at any political
subject.
The Health Care Debate
Trayvon Martin/Race Relations
The Debt and Deficit
The Right to Bear Arms
The Economy/Unemployment
Bush/WMD’s
The Environment
Illegal Immigration
Above is strictly an objective viewpoint. I haven’t taken
sides. It is just a list of examples.
Most of you know where I stand.
What is interesting is how both sides could look at the same
event at the same time and see two different
things.
Do we have any political psychologists on covers who could
explain this?
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#2 Posted: 3/27/2012 5:08:28 PM
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#3 Posted: 3/27/2012 5:20:29 PM 
He cant see to evolve/transcend beyond that...
So difficult to see that there are a large group of people in this country that really fall into neither because they make up their own minds based on their own worldview/experience...
Really hard for him and "his boys" to comprehend...
Canosvp, why is it every time we have conversation you try to frame me as a liberal and once I give my independent/personal view you "cut and run" because it does not with your partisan BS?
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#4 Posted: 3/27/2012 5:45:09 PM DL:
Here he goes talking about god knows what without addressing
the topic.
Are You mad just because I brought it up? It seems like
almost everyone is fiscally/socially liberal or fisccally/socially
conservative. What Obamacare, Trayvon Martin, or the environment have anything
to do with each other is beyond me but yet most people is for all three or
against all three.
If Covers had a drinking game when you said “alias, partisan
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#5 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:08:57 AM Is a good question.
Think if you poll the hardcore liberals you would be shocked at their reasons tho.
For example, I choose to be a Liberal for basically 2 reasons which sound conservative but they are liberal.
1) More Choices
2) More fiscally responsible
Realize fully that GOP "thinks" they are more fiscally responsible, but I strongly disagree.
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#6 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:12:17 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by dl36: here he goes talking about liberal/conservative... He cant see to evolve/transcend beyond that... So difficult to see that there are a large group of people in this country that really fall into neither because they make up their own minds based on their own worldview/experience... Really hard for him and "his boys" to comprehend... Canosvp, why is it every time we have conversation you try to frame me as a liberal and once I give my independent/personal view you "cut and run" because it does not with your partisan BS?
SHUT THE darn UP
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#7 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:13:16 AM Again, fully realize that most people won't agree with #2.
So, as a backlash, Liberals pick on the GOP family values and religion hypocrisies.
Is only fair. If GOP picks on Liberal economics, only fair that Liberals can swing back at GOP platforms.
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#8 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:14:59 AM In terms of the "psychological" part......... bear in mind..... Liberals took a lot of garbage under the Bush craze, so there is some built up animosity to begin with.
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#9 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:16:50 AM
It seems almost unnatural to me, that all the same people always share all the same opinions on such a wide variety of issues. Unless you look at most political opinionators as merely fans of a team. Then it makes more sense, that they derive their opinions from their party, rather than their party from their opinions.
I find that's kinda the way things work.
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#10 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:17:33 AM Also........... Obama is a dynamic dude and is the first "dynamic" guy the Liberals have had in a while.
Liberals have been absolutely cock blocked with duds like John Kerry, and Dukakis and garbage. |
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#11 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:20:21 AM On another note.......... I'm not even sure the GOP has an actual platform.
Obama laid his platform out in advance of his initial campaign. Meanwhile, these GOP guys are just floating with polls on their platforms.
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#12 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:21:28 AM
I dont just take a democrat side even thou am a registered democrat.
I take the side that i think is right and i would hope that others in my party and other parties would do the same thing.
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#13 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:22:25 AM "Lower taxes" and "smaller government" is not a "platform".
That is a byproduct of good Management. But not a "platform" |
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#14 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:24:04 AM Saying "lower taxes"..... is like saying......... "we want to win the football game"....... but not sure who is QB yet.
That is something Mack Brown would say. |
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#15 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:26:44 AM 4 years ago..... every GOP candidate across the land on every level was all touting "National Security" as a campaign platform.
As a Liberal, not comfy with anybody who has to say that, actually talk to any of our actual security concerns. Just too primitive. |
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#16 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:28:50 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:
4 years ago..... every GOP candidate across the land on every level was all touting "National Security" as a campaign platform.
As a Liberal, not comfy with anybody who has to say that, actually talk to any of our actual security concerns. Just too primitive.
Our actual security threats aren't scared of that. Goes back to W at the Olympics with Putin.
Takes more than quick stock phrases to actually Manage.
And honestly, the GOP has gotten to where they are for so long by doing nothing and have not actually had to develop problem solving abilities. They are lacking major skill sets. |
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#17 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:32:28 AM Some of the GOP guys are okay............ the "thinkers" of the GOP but the robots are just not capable of decision making.
Now the GOP is considering this "Rubio" clown who invented the term robot.
Just not responsible Management. IMO |
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#18 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:35:17 AM If go back......... some of our best Presidents were Liberals.
JFK........ heck, Ronald Reagan was a Democrat at one point.
But if go back and look at those guys, they could actually put a thought together. The GOP today can't............. they all say the same thing........ "lower taxes, go USA, etc." |
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#19 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:38:37 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by FriedShrimp: If go back......... some of our best Presidents were Liberals.
JFK........ heck, Ronald Reagan was a Democrat at one point.
But if go back and look at those guys, they could actually put a thought together. The GOP today can't............. they all say the same thing........ "lower taxes, go USA, etc."
and lets not forgot, Ronnie was the head of the actors union
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#20 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:42:20 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by FriedShrimp: If go back......... some of our best Presidents were Liberals.
JFK........ heck, Ronald Reagan was a Democrat at one point.
But if go back and look at those guys, they could actually put a thought together. The GOP today can't............. they all say the same thing........ "lower taxes, go USA, etc."
one other thing about Ronnie. His time was the start of the companies moving overseas to use the slave labor, that they still use today.
I had to change a power outlet in my house today. Do you think that i could find one that was made in America? Nope, every single one of these so called American companies all had their products made in china. It was sickening. 5 different American brands, all made in china. Almost threw up in the store.
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#21 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:42:26 AM I know some may not believe this but I actually voted for Clinton.
That was before I was enlightened.
You know the saying:
"There is no such thing as a young conservative or an old democrat"
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#22 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:43:17 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by FriedShrimp: Saying "lower taxes"..... is like saying......... "we want to win the football game"....... but not sure who is QB yet.
That is something Mack Brown would say.
I love the mack brown thing
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#23 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:46:41 AM just remember...in the immortal word s of patrick swayze....no one puts baby in a corner |
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#24 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:47:33 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:
I know some may not believe this but I actually voted for Clinton.
That was before I was enlightened.
You know the saying:
"There is no such thing as a young conservative or an old democrat"
That is an interesting quote...... and yet Reagan created this entire field of young Conservatives.
Don't fool yourself tho........ some of the largest landowners in the country lean Democrat. |
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#25 Posted: 3/28/2012 12:49:53 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by drJ: fiscally conservative with a huge mixture of social cconfusion with liberal to conservative on social issues. i like liberty and freedom. i dislike governmental control.
just remember...in the immortal word s of patrick swayze....no one puts baby in a corner
Oh darn....... it's late and now have Dr. J ?
For one..... wouldn't need goverment control if the GOP didn't darn up the economy.
Just look at Detroit and let that sink in before you respond. |
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