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Posted: 3/18/2012 11:00:00 PM
Give it up bowl. He is brainwashed to believe he is entitled to a life of a millionaire for his service and is bitter with his lot in life. His posts confirm his bitterness and display his thoughts about all other professions which he seems not worthy.
It is what it is. He can think of you protecting ppl through insurance policies eveytime he gets his pension check. I keep calling him old but he could be retired at a very old 45 years of age.
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Posted: 3/18/2012 11:22:16 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

listen here garbage for brains. I've never once said get rid of police and fire. Shame how our education system failed you. You don't have the inteligence to anything other than a firefighter.

I never once said get rid of them. I said that we should reighn in the pensions so that cities don't go bankrupt trying to pay for them.

What do you mean by "reighn in the pensions"? Do you mean take away what was already contracted or offer new hires less?

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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:14:32 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

What do you mean by "reighn in the pensions"? Do you mean take away what was already contracted or offer new hires less?

If the cities file for bankruptcy the contracts will just be negotiated anyway.

Most likely any contracts were signed before the economy went to garbage.

How many contracts have homeowners broken since the start of the recession?

Those retirees have SS and pensions. They can negotiate a more reasonable deal without bankruptcy or they can go with bankruptcy. Whats the difference.

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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:20:11 AM

This thread started off with the AFL's player union asking for a friggin 300% increase in base pay.

Holy friggen hell. Why could they not have asked for a more reasonable increase for a league that only runs for a few months?

This is not the only story about a unions overstepping there bounds.

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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:58:26 AM

I know what the thread started out as and the impression you give is everything is the unions fault not just that union. I agree that 300% is excessive. Have you ever negotiated? Do you think that the first number thrown on the table is what you're going to get? Don't you think they know this also?

As far as what this thread evolved into, public service unions mostly the unsustainable pensions part.I truely believe that you and others feel that union workers should take the loss on what they contracted for. Do you feel that it is right that they should give back things that they contracted for? If yes have you contacted any of the insurance companies that you deal with and asked them to give back or take a cut in the premiums ? If you sell on commission have you offered to give back any commissions you recieved form sales to govt to help them out? I mean since pensions affect govt cost don't insurance costs also affect govt costs? Same goes for manufactured items that are sold to govt agencies. Since times are tuff shouldn't manufacturers refund and take cuts on these goods?

                             

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Posted: 3/19/2012 1:23:57 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

CD. you have to be one of the dumbest people on this planet.

I never EVER said get rid of the police and fire. For the amount they get paid in salary and bennies you could hire an additional 1 or two guys to police the streets.

Chief of police in Stockton CA. Now one of the most dangerous cities in the nation makes $180,000/year. That is over 14k per month. The taxpayers pay his salary. You could hire 4 officers for that kind of jingle and they'd have a good life.

No you don't want these guys to give up a dime of their salary. Even though we can't afford it anymore.

How many times does it need to be said?

WE CAN'T AFFORD IT ANYMORE!

 

You know why he makes 180,000 a year? I'll give you a hint... maybe it's because he is the police chief of one of the most dangerous cities in the nation!

You are an example of why I want abortion to be legal. Dumb fools are allowed to have a voice, vote and that is a problem with this country.

The point I was trying to make was that the trillion dollars being wasted could be used to build and fix the United States. All this bitching and moaning about unions is stupid. When there is a trillion dollars being spent on dumb projects, it’s time for the US to start thinking of its own. Let the US get back on its feet and then the US can go back to wasteful spending. Those jobs you are attacking should be paid six figures with benefits for life after 20 years.

You are still trying to justify paying football players, who have families, mortgages, bills to pay, to except 400 bucks a game and work a separate job. Players were paid six figures a year and then were offered 8,000 a year and you think the players and unions are at fault. Everyone involved in the arena league even says the sport is not marketed correctly and is not even being sold to the public properly. Unions were created to stop the free market from enforcing totalitarian rule.

You are another megalomaniac who listens to one side of an argument and basis your belief on that side of the argument without gathering all of the evidence first. Another way I could interpret it is that you are in such an ignorant state of mind that it does not matter what the other side presents. You will continue to be a megalomaniac that sides with the fat cats regardless of the evidence presented. I am “passionately angry” at American taxes funding those things I posted and could careless about unions.

Stop the useless spending on those things I listed and maybe the system could pay people six figures with benefits for life.

Government waste and having dumb fools allowed to make decisions that affect society... WE CAN"T AFFORD IT ANYMORE!



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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:09:00 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

listen here garbage for brains. I've never once said get rid of police and fire. Shame how our education system failed you. You don't have the inteligence to anything other than a firefighter.

I never once said get rid of them. I said that we should reighn in the pensions so that cities don't go bankrupt trying to pay for them.



demeaning the job as a firefighter once again as just a bunch of dummies, for an insurance salesman you are not to bright on what the job of a firefighter entails, then again how could you, your just a paper shuffling desk jockey failure who is mad at the unions because they didnt want you.

How come you keep wanting to reduce other people salaries and take away what they worked for, but when other ask you why dont all you insurance salesman take cuts in pay, you are quiet as a mouse being chased by a cat. All we hear is crickets and you keep ignoring the subject. Fact is if you insurance crooks take a cut in pay, the company could possibly lower the rates for all the consumers. So really why arent you guys doing this to help the country?  Oh thats right you want others to give back but not you guys, because you are so deserving of your pay and others arent. Insurance salesman making over 75k is a joke and then you have the nerve to say a police chief making a 180k a year is overpaid. You my friend are a complete and utter joke. For you to even compare your sit on your behind job with no real responsibilities other then selling insurance policies to what the duties of a police chief does running a whole police dept, makes you a bigger behind then everybody already knows you are. Honestly you are nothing more then a pompous piece of dog crap that is so full of himself its just plain disgusting. I wouldnt be surprised if you dont go home from work every day and look in the mirror and tell yourself you are the greatest insurance crook in the world deserving of your over 75k a year salary
Really you just just go back to your cubicle and keep your mouth shut, while you are earning wage that is just outrageous for the job you do.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:20:32 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by lordspoint:

Yep, right on cue. I say what I do for a living and you bash it. I praise the service of your profesion and swooosh right over your head.
Man on man, you have some unresolved issues.

I would say 75k is a good salary
There's my # homie.
What say you?


Thats a pretty decent salary. I would think in bigger cities like NY, the salaries should be more, just because of the sheer number of calls they go on everyday and the type of buildings that they face.

Let me ask you thou, would you run into a burning building to save somebody while others are trying to get out for 75k a year? Would you risk your life at any moment doing your job for 75k.
Has over 300 people ever died in your so called factory{which you still havent told us what you make, but i guess thats super top secret or maybe you are to ashamed to tell us all the products that you supposedly make that save cops and firefighters lives.

And for the record after 25 years of service i get 25k a year for my pension and thats because i didnt pad my pension like i could have done, which could have boosted me to close to 50k a year, but am dead set against padding pensions with overtime, vacation pay, sick pay. Sure i fucked myself, but i can look myself in the mirror everyday knowing nobody can call me a friggin hypocrite.  Am not one of these do as i say not as i do persons.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:27:08 AM
And lords for the record, i think 99 percent of the professions out there, the people are very deserving of praise for the jobs they do daily, including yours at mickey d's.  But there are some professions like insurance crooks who i have zero respect for. These people sit on their fools all day filling out forms and they are making at least 75k a year.
Come on man thats a friggin joke. Insurance companies could hire some stay at home moms to sell policies.  I think sooner or later these companies are going to finally realize that they can contract out alot cheaper to have these jobs done. They should be thankful chimps havent learned how to talk yet, because there would be a ton of insurance crooks on the unemployment line.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:59:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

I know what the thread started out as and the impression you give is everything is the unions fault not just that union. I agree that 300% is excessive. Have you ever negotiated? Do you think that the first number thrown on the table is what you're going to get? Don't you think they know this also?

As far as what this thread evolved into, public service unions mostly the unsustainable pensions part.I truely believe that you and others feel that union workers should take the loss on what they contracted for. Do you feel that it is right that they should give back things that they contracted for? If yes have you contacted any of the insurance companies that you deal with and asked them to give back or take a cut in the premiums ? If you sell on commission have you offered to give back any commissions you recieved form sales to govt to help them out? I mean since pensions affect govt cost don't insurance costs also affect govt costs? Same goes for manufactured items that are sold to govt agencies. Since times are tuff shouldn't manufacturers refund and take cuts on these goods?

                             

Darkhorse. I respect your desire to debate and desire for genuine back and forth. I wish DL36 and CDnumbers had the same qualities.

Surely there are some insurance companies that charge way too much for their policies. They are the ones that you see advertised on TV constantly. Fortunately, Independant agents like myself are here to offer the same coverages for less.

One of the smaller companies that I represent in one year took in 26 million in premiums but in the same amount of time paid out 19 million. Thats not a heck of a lot of profit when you then consider overhead and expendatures. Its in all of our best interests to make sure insurance companies don't become insolvent. One of the most common claims a homeowners policy pays is water damage..usually from the water line that goes to the icemaker in the freezer. Those claims are generally 3-10,000 to repair. Homeowner policies in my area run from 300 to 700 if earthquake is covered. Thats not in anyway expensive in my oppinion. CD just likes to use that as a talking point but he really knows very little about insurance premiums.

CD isn't exactly biased either because he is receiving the very pensions we speak of.

I should give credit to moneysrh too because he has made an effort to keep things civil.

Insurance companies and manufacturers alike are subject to the free market. I have a few people I've met who work for a dog food company and their owner takes them to Hawaii every year...the whole company. He doesn't have to do that.

Insurance companies and manufacturers aren't financed through property taxes or any other taxes. At some point over taxation becomes theft. It should cost the taxpayers over x amount of money to get what the taxes are supposed to pay for. As a matter of fact...if the homeowner isn't creating a burden on the city they should get a rebate. Most people never see a policeman or fireman in their lifetime because they raise their kids properly and are careful and not letting their house catch on fire.

 

 

 

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Posted: 3/19/2012 3:08:29 AM

You know why he makes 180,000 a year? I'll give you a hint... maybe it's because he is the police chief of one of the most dangerous cities in the nation!

It has become one of the most dangerous cities in the nation Probably because it had to layoff soo many cops.

You are still trying to justify paying football players, who have families, mortgages, bills to pay, to except 400 bucks a game and work a separate job. Players were paid six figures a year and then were offered 8,000 a year and you think the players and unions are at fault. Everyone involved in the arena league even says the sport is not marketed correctly and is not even being sold to the public properly. Unions were created to stop the free market from enforcing totalitarian rule.

I bet when the AFL and NFL first started up they weren't able to pay the players that much to start either. They should be all about building the league and then get more when the league is firmly entrenched and viable. It doesn't matter who screwed up in the marketing...it matters that the league is struggling and thats the only thing that matters. Why do you let your dreams get in the way of reality?

I agree with you on the list of waseful expendatures but that is off topic and therefore not welcome discussion.

Unions are a huge problem and I'm afraid its gonna be too late by the time you wake up and realize that I am right about it.

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Posted: 3/19/2012 3:20:38 AM

You are another megalomaniac who listens to one side of an argument and basis your belief on that side of the argument without gathering all of the evidence first. Another way I could interpret it is that you are in such an ignorant state of mind that it does not matter what the other side presents. You will continue to be a megalomaniac that sides with the fat cats regardless of the evidence presented. I am “passionately angry” at American taxes funding those things I posted and could careless about unions.

There have been discussions in many of our cities trying to negotiate with public unions in the past and as we speak. Stockton California is actively trying to get the unions to work with them on a settlement. You can bury your head in the sand if you want and think what you want about me, I don't care. BUT I am right

Do I need to make a list of cities that think their public union is a problem? Would it make a difference in what you choose to believe?

NJ teachers union spent 4 million in atack ads recently on fighting governer Christies campain. How far would that money have gone in hiring teachers? Its for the kids right?

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Posted: 3/19/2012 4:17:41 AM
If people in the free market did not make people create the idea of a union, this would not even be a problem to begin with. You can show me examples of how the union is overstepping their bounds and I could show you examples of the free market over stepping their bounds. The system is built upon trust on both sides and I have no idea how to rebuild the relationship of the two.

Look I am not saying unions are not a problem. I am saying both sides are to blame. I am angry with both sides of the aisle. You continue to pick on one side and not the other. I think unions are on the bottom of my list of problems that need to be fixed.

I agree it has to be fixed. I am just puzzled on how to fix it? How do you take back what is already agreed to and how do you instill faith in free market owners to workers again? Too much money and too much skepticism involved in finding common agreeance on this issue.

Players were paid six figures a year and then were offered 8,000 a year and you think the players and unions are at fault. That is a drastic cut in pay and you are still trying to justify paying football players, who have families, mortgages, bills to pay, to except 400 bucks a game and work a separate job. I do not think I would risk my health and my family for 400 bucks a game.

The study on concussions has made me see the risk the players are dealing with when they step on the field. One hit to the head or one hit to a part of their body that cripples them and they are done for life with no way to support their families. If the AFL wants a sellable product with talented players then they are going to have to pay the players enough money for them to take the risk for our entertainment.

I see a union worker talk about how great unions are and I am shaking my head in agreement. Then I see a private sector talk about unions and shake my head in agreement.

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Posted: 3/19/2012 11:54:29 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

Darkhorse. I respect your desire to debate and desire for genuine back and forth. I wish DL36 and CDnumbers had the same qualities.

Surely there are some insurance companies that charge way too much for their policies. They are the ones that you see advertised on TV constantly. Fortunately, Independant agents like myself are here to offer the same coverages for less.

One of the smaller companies that I represent in one year took in 26 million in premiums but in the same amount of time paid out 19 million. Thats not a heck of a lot of profit when you then consider overhead and expendatures. Its in all of our best interests to make sure insurance companies don't become insolvent. One of the most common claims a homeowners policy pays is water damage..usually from the water line that goes to the icemaker in the freezer. Those claims are generally 3-10,000 to repair. Homeowner policies in my area run from 300 to 700 if earthquake is covered. Thats not in anyway expensive in my oppinion. CD just likes to use that as a talking point but he really knows very little about insurance premiums.

CD isn't exactly biased either because he is receiving the very pensions we speak of.

I should give credit to moneysrh too because he has made an effort to keep things civil.

Insurance companies and manufacturers alike are subject to the free market. I have a few people I've met who work for a dog food company and their owner takes them to Hawaii every year...the whole company. He doesn't have to do that.

Insurance companies and manufacturers aren't financed through property taxes or any other taxes. At some point over taxation becomes theft. It should cost the taxpayers over x amount of money to get what the taxes are supposed to pay for. As a matter of fact...if the homeowner isn't creating a burden on the city they should get a rebate. Most people never see a policeman or fireman in their lifetime because they raise their kids properly and are careful and not letting their house catch on fire.

 

 

 



stop your bullshit, really because its getting old now. You work in one of the most corrupt and wealthiest industries out there, so stop with the bullshit insurance companies are hurting, because there not. If they are hurting and dont make money, then they should get out of the business. Also dont say insurance rates dont hurt consumers. People by law have to have insurance, so insurance companies pretty much have a rigged game going for them. These insane salaries of over 75k a year for some guy sitting at his desk filling out papers is just plain wrong and your wages is causing consumers to have to pay more money. Theres no reason why salesman like you should earn anything over 25k a year.
So until your fat do nothing all day lazy behind takes a cut in pay to help the consumer, shut your mouth about others taking cuts, who have already done the work and earned their benefits. Like i said already, you are nothing but a pompous person who believes you are so deserving of your high wage, but other people arent deserving of thier wages, even thou you have never performed any of those jobs in your entire life. Based on the fact that you believe your job is worthy of making over 75k a year, this actually means if you ever went to work as a cop or firefighter, after doing the job, you would say that they deserve to make at least 2 million a year.
Now go back to your cubicle and go help your company rob some more folks of their hard earned money
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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:12:14 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

You are another megalomaniac who listens to one side of an argument and basis your belief on that side of the argument without gathering all of the evidence first. Another way I could interpret it is that you are in such an ignorant state of mind that it does not matter what the other side presents. You will continue to be a megalomaniac that sides with the fat cats regardless of the evidence presented. I am “passionately angry” at American taxes funding those things I posted and could careless about unions.

There have been discussions in many of our cities trying to negotiate with public unions in the past and as we speak. Stockton California is actively trying to get the unions to work with them on a settlement. You can bury your head in the sand if you want and think what you want about me, I don't care. BUT I am right

Do I need to make a list of cities that think their public union is a problem? Would it make a difference in what you choose to believe?

NJ teachers union spent 4 million in atack ads recently on fighting governer Christies campain. How far would that money have gone in hiring teachers? Its for the kids right?



it really is funny how almost every post you make on this site, its always about other people making to much money and how they should give back what they earned already. Are you really this fuckin nuts or just a lonely guy trying to stir up garbage on the forum?  Who are you, some guy that sits at his desk all day, trying to make sure you dont get a paper cut, to say what the wages of other peoples jobs should be, considering you have not worked any of them and dont know anything about them. Really who the darn do you think you are? Gods gift to mankind that knows everything?
All you keep saying is we cant afford the workers, well heres a new flash, your gonna have to afford the workers dumb behind, because in the society we live in, theres always gonna be cops and firefighters and i hate to burst your bubble but you arent gonna be able to just pay them the low wages that you want to pay them. Therese are jobs that are needed in society and pussies like you would never dream of ever trying to do. Instead you hide behind your desk taking shots at these jobs, because deep down inside you wish that you werent such a little chicken garbage and had more balls in life.

If you want to keep babbling about wages, then be a fuckin man, walk into your bosses office and tell him you want to take a 25k cut in pay, because you feel that your wage is causing the insrance consumer to have to pay more for their policies and you want to do the right thing, just stop being a fuckin hypocrite saying others need to take cuts.
Between all the policies insurance companies sell to consumers, from health insurance to car insurance, they are bankrupting whole families with the rates they are charging. So if you want to talk about unsustainable, lets talk about that you pompous little prick.

And please dont come back wth your same old line, well the companies pay out when you have a fire, blah blah blah. They take in a lot more each year then they pay out, or else they wouldnt be in the business doing this garbage. So save your poor ole broke insurance companies line for some dope that will believe that bullshit.
Insurance companies charge way to much and sales crooks make way to much.

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I love this line of yours  "300-700 isnt expensive at all"\
what a pompous prick you are. am sure there are tons and tons of people who will disagree with you on that.  Its pretty amazing, how so little money companies are supposedly charging according to , yet the companies are making hundreds of billions in profits.

when you start adding up all the insurance policies that people need to have, you can clearly see how much the consumer is being ripped off by these companies and sales crooks.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 12:28:26 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

I know what the thread started out as and the impression you give is everything is the unions fault not just that union. I agree that 300% is excessive. Have you ever negotiated? Do you think that the first number thrown on the table is what you're going to get? Don't you think they know this also?

As far as what this thread evolved into, public service unions mostly the unsustainable pensions part.I truely believe that you and others feel that union workers should take the loss on what they contracted for. Do you feel that it is right that they should give back things that they contracted for? If yes have you contacted any of the insurance companies that you deal with and asked them to give back or take a cut in the premiums ? If you sell on commission have you offered to give back any commissions you recieved form sales to govt to help them out? I mean since pensions affect govt cost don't insurance costs also affect govt costs? Same goes for manufactured items that are sold to govt agencies. Since times are tuff shouldn't manufacturers refund and take cuts on these goods?

                             



i always want more, especially from my job because i give my all. I negotiate my wages on my own. Have worked in an array of industries, and heard the horror stories from many friends and acquaintances. The difference of work ethic between union and non union shops is night and day

I want everyone to get paid a fair return, on what they are putting in. The difference between someone like me, that wants to be paid a fair return on my output, and a pro union person, is that the union people don't care about their output. It matters none to them the product of their labors, nor it's functionality, need/want. They want to use the government as a political tool to inflate their PERSONAL standard of living. Worse still, they seem to want this mindlessly, ignoring all the implications that arise on the road to meet their goal of short work weeks (4o hours of standing on a production line doing nothing, unless it's Sunday, then they will stand there for 16 hours to collect triple time). The government should be no mans personal body guard with which to strongarm others at the end of the gun to fall in line. The government should be there as referee to protect every individual equally. Pro union people seem to think otherwise. That's why they form a union in the first place, to utilize the government to grant special privileges to their special group. Most union folk and their supporters, tend to be special needs
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i always want more, especially from my job because i give my all. I negotiate my wages on my own. Have worked in an array of industries, and heard the horror stories from many friends and acquaintances. The difference of work ethic between union and non union shops is night and day

I want everyone to get paid a fair return, on what they are putting in. The difference between someone like me, that wants to be paid a fair return on my output, and a pro union person, is that the union people don't care about their output. It matters none to them the product of their labors, nor it's functionality, need/want. They want to use the government as a political tool to inflate their PERSONAL standard of living. Worse still, they seem to want this mindlessly, ignoring all the implications that arise on the road to meet their goal of short work weeks (4o hours of standing on a production line doing nothing, unless it's Sunday, then they will stand there for 16 hours to collect triple time). The government should be no mans personal body guard with which to strongarm others at the end of the gun to fall in line. The government should be there as referee to protect every individual equally. Pro union people seem to think otherwise. That's why they form a union in the first place, to utilize the government to grant special privileges to their special group. Most union folk and their supporters, tend to be special needs


look at that another union basher. Your so full of garbage with this post,its actually quite comical.
To sit here and say union people are not hard workers and only non union workers, makes you totally full of bullshit.
Some of the laziest people i worked construction with were the non union workers.
You just hate unions and will make up whatever bullshit to fit your story.
I think your just mad because it was union cops who busted down your door and threw you in jail, so thats why you hate unions..

one reason unions are formed be, is so they can negotiate the salaries for all the workers, instead of every worker doing it themselves, which in the long run will just cause worse problems, when you have one guy making 10 bucks an hour and the other guy making 12 bucks an hour. Thats how you create lazy workers in the work place. Now maybe working out your own salary at the pizza shop works, but it sure wont work in a plant with hundreds, if not thousands of workers.

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Posted: 3/19/2012 1:46:55 PM
also what production lines do the govt run?
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Posted: 3/19/2012 1:48:11 PM
You know what the non union construction workers used to always say.  darn my company, they pay me jack garbage so am gonna take my time doing the job.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 1:53:52 PM

Players were paid six figures a year and then were offered 8,000 a year and you think the players and unions are at fault. That is a drastic cut in pay and you are still trying to justify paying football players, who have families, mortgages, bills to pay, to except 400 bucks a game and work a separate job. I do not think I would risk my health and my family for 400 bucks a game.

The study on concussions has made me see the risk the players are dealing with when they step on the field. One hit to the head or one hit to a part of their body that cripples them and they are done for life with no way to support their families. If the AFL wants a sellable product with talented players then they are going to have to pay the players enough money for them to take the risk for our entertainment.

Moneysrh. Arena league teams are not exempt from work comp claims.

The 8,000 figure is the leauge minimum or base salary. There are players that make more. They can't pay over a certain amount of money until they are entrenched as a league. The league is just a couple of seasons past the year they decided to not play due to financial reasons. Do you remember that? You act like you don't.

THEY TOOK THE YEAR OFF BECAUSE THEY KNEW THE REVENUES WERENT GOING TO BE WORTH THE RISK.


 

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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:06:18 PM
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it really is funny how almost every post you make on this site, its always about other people making to much money and how they should give back what they earned already. Are you really this fuckin nuts or just a lonely guy trying to stir up garbage on the forum?  Who are you, some guy that sits at his desk all day, trying to make sure you dont get a paper cut, to say what the wages of other peoples jobs should be, considering you have not worked any of them and dont know anything about them. Really who the darn do you think you are? Gods gift to mankind that knows everything?
All you keep saying is we cant afford the workers, well heres a new flash, your gonna have to afford the workers dumb behind, because in the society we live in, theres always gonna be cops and firefighters and i hate to burst your bubble but you arent gonna be able to just pay them the low wages that you want to pay them. Therese are jobs that are needed in society and pussies like you would never dream of ever trying to do. Instead you hide behind your desk taking shots at these jobs, because deep down inside you wish that you werent such a little chicken garbage and had more balls in life.

If you want to keep babbling about wages, then be a fuckin man, walk into your bosses office and tell him you want to take a 25k cut in pay, because you feel that your wage is causing the insrance consumer to have to pay more for their policies and you want to do the right thing, just stop being a fuckin hypocrite saying others need to take cuts.
Between all the policies insurance companies sell to consumers, from health insurance to car insurance, they are bankrupting whole families with the rates they are charging. So if you want to talk about unsustainable, lets talk about that you pompous little prick.

And please dont come back wth your same old line, well the companies pay out when you have a fire, blah blah blah. They take in a lot more each year then they pay out, or else they wouldnt be in the business doing this garbage. So save your poor ole broke insurance companies line for some dope that will believe that bullshit.
Insurance companies charge way to much and sales crooks make way to much.

CD you really are the king of all dumb fools. I never said insurance companies are poor. I said they don't profit as much as you think they do. The market is as competitive as its ever been and even the most expensive companies are starting to lower their rates to stay in the game.

Quit talking about bullshit that you know nothing about. If I didn't save people money I wouldnt make any. Quit being a dumb behind.

I know you would love to think that people are stupid enough to come to me and pay more for their insurance than they are already paying. Simply not the case. Maybe you are that stupid.

There is no law that requires you to have insurance. Property or car insurance. Another paumpus lie.

People that own a home will gladly pay a dollar per day to protect their assets. 300 -700 is not expensive when you consider your house will be covered if it burns down.

I know you're too stupid and ignorant to understand that so just let it go. You must be a renter because if you owned a home you would know.

 

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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:11:43 PM
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look at that another union basher. Your so full of garbage with this post,its actually quite comical.



Yup. 
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People that own a home will gladly pay a dollar per day to protect their assets. 300 -700 is not expensive when you consider your house will be covered if it burns down.

Burns down ..............

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Posted: 3/19/2012 3:06:49 PM
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Thats a pretty decent salary. I would think in bigger cities like NY, the salaries should be more, just because of the sheer number of calls they go on everyday and the type of buildings that they face.

Let me ask you thou, would you run into a burning building to save somebody while others are trying to get out for 75k a year? Would you risk your life at any moment doing your job for 75k.
Has over 300 people ever died in your so called factory{which you still havent told us what you make, but i guess thats super top secret or maybe you are to ashamed to tell us all the products that you supposedly make that save cops and firefighters lives.

And for the record after 25 years of service i get 25k a year for my pension and thats because i didnt pad my pension like i could have done, which could have boosted me to close to 50k a year, but am dead set against padding pensions with overtime, vacation pay, sick pay. Sure i fucked myself, but i can look myself in the mirror everyday knowing nobody can call me a friggin hypocrite.  Am not one of these do as i say not as i do persons.

and the bashing continues

I dont know cd, what is it worth to run into a burning building?

I gave you a # what do you want from me, for Christ sake.

Honestly, and no disrespect to anyone in law or fire but the guys I know who went into either just didnt know what else to do with their lives and this was the opporunity that presented itself so they CHOSE it.

and for the record, I have pulled people from auto accidents on 2 seperatec occasions. I was not in the accident, I was driving and came upon them. I didnt think once about my life, I only thought about helping whoever was in the car. I smelled gas - was it gonna explode? I had no clue. I did it because thats who I am.

Again, step off your high horse and just be thankful your alive today. There are other "heroes" who risk their lives, donate organs etc everday

 

 

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