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Posted: 5/15/2011 11:23:43 PM

It seems to happen with varying intensity every year somewhere in the midwest yet people loose everything....the government, as well as insurance companies spend millions if not billions on rebuilding and dissaster relief.

Why not build a canal system that runs west from the Mississippi river and either catches another river or turns South itself somewhere near western Kansas?

If they wanted, they could make it big enough to have boat traffic just like the Mississippi up and down. I'm not saying it should be as big as the Mississippi, just big enough for two way traffic.

Right now western Texas is struggling to fight fires with short water supplies. A few years ago I heard a story on the news that farmers in western Texas were burning the spines off of cactuses so they could feed them to their cattle in lieu of water because of drought conditions.

Im sure that the money would be very well spent and probably pay for itself in savings over a small number of years....plus create jobs.

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Posted: 5/15/2011 11:31:04 PM
It's not politically fashionable.....
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Posted: 5/16/2011 12:29:54 AM
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It's not politically fashionable.....

Besides why bother with taking care of our own when we can continuously ship bundles of cash to Iraq and Afghanistan to build schools and make infrastructure improvements there, even if only for it to be bombed later by zealots?  

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Bowlslit, your a friggin genius and probably should be appointed to head the army corp of engineers, because am sure those lazy person having been trying to figure out answers for these problems. Nope just insurance salesman like you have the answers.

I mean do you really believe that nobody has been trying to work on solutions for these problems? Ideas like yours look a lot easier on paper then real life. But you would have to work some jobs with your hands getting dirty to realize that.

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texas fires were set by the federal government, ATF i think, trying to destroy explosives

not so much that we dont hear about the devastation that hits the midwest when it does (iowa floods, tornados, etc)...its that we hear so much about other parts of the country when there's devastation in other parts of the country or world.

heard about haiti quake for weeks and all the celebs went down there. i dont hear much about sean penn going to memphis or the mississippit delta
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KOAJ,

most of those actors are total scumbags and traitors to their own country. On top of that they are some of the biggest phonies in the world.

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obama hates flood plain dwellers
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or is it river delta dwellers?

either way he hate' em

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Posted: 5/16/2011 8:29:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

Bowlslit, your a friggin genius and probably should be appointed to head the army corp of engineers, because am sure those lazy person having been trying to figure out answers for these problems. Nope just insurance salesman like you have the answers.

I mean do you really believe that nobody has been trying to work on solutions for these problems? Ideas like yours look a lot easier on paper then real life. But you would have to work some jobs with your hands getting dirty to realize that.

 

The Erie Canal is man made! What are some of the solutions they have started that have ended unsuccessful?

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texas fires were set by the federal government, ATF i think, trying to destroy explosives

not so much that we dont hear about the devastation that hits the midwest when it does (iowa floods, tornados, etc)...its that we hear so much about other parts of the country when there's devastation in other parts of the country or world.

heard about haiti quake for weeks and all the celebs went down there. i dont hear much about sean penn going to memphis or the mississippit delta

There is a pretty clear understanding of why this is if one has spent time in third world countries that have suffered horrible disasters. There are no police, minimal governmental support, a near inability for rescuers to access victims, often no food and water. This often occurs for weeks and even months. Meanwhile children literally starve to death and are murdered or taken as slaves by rival groups.

While I realize that we also have people that suffer here, the clear distinction is in the ability for it to be covered (by media), the accessability of those attempting to help, and the protections that are available those suffering. In a third world country, it is like a Katrina that never ends. I am glad for the actors and others that draw attention to this.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

Bowlslit, your a friggin genius and probably should be appointed to head the army corp of engineers, because am sure those lazy person having been trying to figure out answers for these problems. Nope just insurance salesman like you have the answers.

I mean do you really believe that nobody has been trying to work on solutions for these problems? Ideas like yours look a lot easier on paper then real life. But you would have to work some jobs with your hands getting dirty to realize that.

CD...nice attempt at taking a shot at me. I have to give you credit because you didn't call me an idiot like stiln would have.

Anyway, I think you may need to get checked out for ahzheimers because you clearly forgot that I worked for ALCOA for 14+ years where I had to spend a considerable amount of time cleaning dirt out of my fingernails. I have been an Insurance agent for merely 2 years now.

By the way. My pension from Alcoa....I've earned a whopping $300 per month that I can start receiving in 2036. I wonder how that would compare to a state employee at the DMV? I started working at Alcoa in '95.

Back to the subject....the Army core of engineers in this respect is re-active and not proactive. As I've said before.....this is not just a one or two year problem. This flooding in the midwest has been going on albeit with varying severity for DECADES.

HOW LONG DO YOU PLAN ON GIVING THE ACE TO SOLVE THIS ONGOING PROBLEM?

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Posted: 5/16/2011 11:43:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rooster010:

or is it river delta dwellers?

either way he hate' em

In all fairness to Obama, his teleprompter just hasn't gotten around to telling him about this disaster

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Posted: 5/16/2011 11:45:39 AM
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There is a pretty clear understanding of why this is if one has spent time in third world countries that have suffered horrible disasters. There are no police, minimal governmental support, a near inability for rescuers to access victims, often no food and water. This often occurs for weeks and even months. Meanwhile children literally starve to death and are murdered or taken as slaves by rival groups.

While I realize that we also have people that suffer here, the clear distinction is in the ability for it to be covered (by media), the accessability of those attempting to help, and the protections that are available those suffering. In a third world country, it is like a Katrina that never ends. I am glad for the actors THAT CALL ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES and others that draw attention to this.

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Posted: 5/16/2011 8:18:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

Bowlslit, your a friggin genius and probably should be appointed to head the army corp of engineers, because am sure those lazy person having been trying to figure out answers for these problems. Nope just insurance salesman like you have the answers.

I mean do you really believe that nobody has been trying to work on solutions for these problems? Ideas like yours look a lot easier on paper then real life. But you would have to work some jobs with your hands getting dirty to realize that.

CD, how many years are you planning on giving the federal govt to solve this on going problem? 30 years isn't enough?

CD? What would you do to solve the problem long term? Everything I have read just reinstates that the govt is building levees not solving the problem.

My idea solves two problems....maybe even creates long term permanent jobs.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

There is a pretty clear understanding of why this is if one has spent time in third world countries that have suffered horrible disasters. There are no police, minimal governmental support, a near inability for rescuers to access victims, often no food and water. This often occurs for weeks and even months. Meanwhile children literally starve to death and are murdered or taken as slaves by rival groups.

While I realize that we also have people that suffer here, the clear distinction is in the ability for it to be covered (by media), the accessability of those attempting to help, and the protections that are available those suffering. In a third world country, it is like a Katrina that never ends. I am glad for the actors and others that draw attention to this.


So ship all of the TAX PAYERS money to country that don't give a garbage about us while our houses are getting destroyed.   Makes perfect sense
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So ship all of the TAX PAYERS money to country that don't give a garbage about us while our houses are getting destroyed.   Makes perfect sense

Hardly my point. It was more the attention that is called to the matter. Believe it or not, despite the fact that you don't care, many people around the US and world are concerned about the fate of those children and others that weren't born in the US.

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Posted: 5/16/2011 11:15:18 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Hardly my point. It was more the attention that is called to the matter. Believe it or not, despite the fact that you don't care, many people around the US and world are concerned about the fate of those children and others that weren't born in the US.




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QUOTE Originally Posted by bowlslit:

It seems to happen with varying intensity every year somewhere in the midwest yet people loose everything....the government, as well as insurance companies spend millions if not billions on rebuilding and dissaster relief.

Why not build a canal system that runs west from the Mississippi river and either catches another river or turns South itself somewhere near western Kansas?

If they wanted, they could make it big enough to have boat traffic just like the Mississippi up and down. I'm not saying it should be as big as the Mississippi, just big enough for two way traffic.

Right now western Texas is struggling to fight fires with short water supplies. A few years ago I heard a story on the news that farmers in western Texas were burning the spines off of cactuses so they could feed them to their cattle in lieu of water because of drought conditions.

Im sure that the money would be very well spent and probably pay for itself in savings over a small number of years....plus create jobs.



Im sure it is racial issue like Katrina...  becasue it is not a "chocolate city" it is the obvious and clear anti-white agenda that Glenn beck and the one or two known "Honorable Glenn Beck" worshipers has tried to spin us...

I think that the Bush run FEMA disaster was not malicious but a symptom of poor leadership... 

Obama talks about investing in innovation, roads etc...  perhaps your idea bowslit is a very good one to make our country better and reduce the "aid" needed for the obvious patterns of flooding..

bowslit = a true and intelligent GOP/Conservative voice"

Alot of frauds who think that just because they bash obama that they get it when it comes to the bigger picture...
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on a side note, what right does the federal government have to blow up a levee and destory people's private property?

if its a natural disaster i understand, but for the feds to knowingly flood someone's land...thats wrong on every level

in the last week, if you were a federal worker in indiana, the state police could come kick your door down without a warrant telling you the feds are going to flood your land without your permission...think you're going to cash out of your pension to rebuild? not likely, the feds stole it to extend unemployment

difference between 1960 cuba and 2011 usa is what exactly?
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Originally Posted by KOAJ:

on a side note, what right does the federal government have to blow up a levee and destory people's private property?

if its a natural disaster i understand, but for the feds to knowingly flood someone's land...thats wrong on every level

in the last week, if you were a federal worker in indiana, the state police could come kick your door down without a warrant telling you the feds are going to flood your land without your permission...think you're going to cash out of your pension to rebuild? not likely, the feds stole it to extend unemployment

difference between 1960 cuba and 2011 usa is what exactly?

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QUOTE Originally Posted by djbrow:

Hardly my point. It was more the attention that is called to the matter. Believe it or not, despite the fact that you don't care, many people around the US and world are concerned about the fate of those children and others that weren't born in the US.


I understand what your saying but I think the money should come from  foundations and charities to help these people.  It should not be coming from tax dollars when we have our own problems. We cannot afford to ship millions every month over seas when we can't even take care of our own people. 
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Originally Posted by KOAJ:

on a side note, what right does the federal government have to blow up a levee and destory people's private property?

if its a natural disaster i understand, but for the feds to knowingly flood someone's land...thats wrong on every level

in the last week, if you were a federal worker in indiana, the state police could come kick your door down without a warrant telling you the feds are going to flood your land without your permission...think you're going to cash out of your pension to rebuild? not likely, the feds stole it to extend unemployment

difference between 1960 cuba and 2011 usa is what exactly?

Nice to see you sticking up for the rights of the state and federal worker.  Not a position I am used to seeing from you.

 

The action of the government based on the greater good premise is derivative from the law of eminent domain. I understand your need to blame this on Obama (hence the 2011 US comment) but right or wrong, this is a government action that existed long before you or I set foot on this planet.

While I have your attention, I am still waiting on the explaination of how Obama was wrong to go after Bin Laden in Pakistan, yet also wrong not to directly support the resistence in Iran.

 

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I understand what your saying but I think the money should come from  foundations and charities to help these people.  It should not be coming from tax dollars when we have our own problems. We cannot afford to ship millions every month over seas when we can't even take care of our own people. 

For the most part, such help comes from foundations and charities. But understand, you are talking apples and oranges. Does the US, in food pantires, soup kitchens, etc. have a shortage of powdered milk and eggs? What about basic medicine or treatment? We have those things in full capacity. In fact, our government actually purchases those things from local manufacturers and they sit in warehouses.

In the US, if you are poor, you receive food stamps. You can go to a soup kitchen, and food pantry, a shelter. Those are already creations and expenditures.

In 3rd world countries after a disaster, if you are hungry, you die. If you need even the most basic medical treatment, you die. Does it make more sense that such basic items sit in warehouses here or provide assistance there?

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Does this thread work against me or for me as a free thinker?

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Im sure it is racial issue like Katrina...  becasue it is not a "chocolate city" it is the obvious and clear anti-white agenda that Glenn beck and the one or two known "Honorable Glenn Beck" worshipers has tried to spin us...

I think that the Bush run FEMA disaster was not malicious but a symptom of poor leadership... 

Obama talks about investing in innovation, roads etc...  perhaps your idea bowslit is a very good one to make our country better and reduce the "aid" needed for the obvious patterns of flooding..

bowslit = a true and intelligent GOP/Conservative voice"

Alot of frauds who think that just because they bash obama that they get it when it comes to the bigger picture...

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