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Author:	[Investments] Topic: I guess there is one good thing about Obama getting reelected
bill702	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: WilliamHill.com \|
Veteran Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1319 Location: Nevada	#1 Posted: 11/7/2012 2:26:22 PM The market doesn't need to be propped up anymore. I was getting a little worried with my Faz/Tza positions. I'm back to even on Faz and up $1 on Tza. I think I will try and get out at 21/19 in the next few weeks. What's the lowest level for the dow you guys expect this year?
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JEFFMARKETCAP	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 50835 Location: Illinois	#2 Posted: 11/7/2012 5:47:44 PM Great point. I see Down 10k this year. Hoping for a nice drop here on the fiscal cliff issue.
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billymac27	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Prospect Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 71 Location:	#3 Posted: 11/9/2012 7:59:06 AM Don't sell. enjoy the ride up. these politicians are sure to help boost it even further when they get the chance
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mightiestmojo	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: May 2009 Posts: 4865 Location: Texas	#4 Posted: 11/11/2012 9:22:42 PM I think it'll hit 10500 next year.
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hotdamn85	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Bellagio \|
Rookie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 907 Location:	#5 Posted: 11/12/2012 11:30:09 PM ommmg! TZA and the short china fund!
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Hawgwild32	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Caesars Palace \|
Prospect Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 77 Location: Tennessee	#6 Posted: 11/24/2012 9:47:24 AM Market can only go down with these idiots around 4 more years. The U.S. is going to crash and burn. These fools are making sure it happens.
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hotdamn85	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Bellagio \|
Rookie Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 907 Location:	#7 Posted: 11/25/2012 12:01:19 AM well at least we still got PBS and the muppets around for another 4 years.
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depeche2	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 66822 Location: Illinois	#8 Posted: 11/28/2012 12:02:47 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Hawgwild32: Market can only go down with these idiots around 4 more years. The U.S. is going to crash and burn. These fools are making sure it happens. You mean just it crashed and burned the last 4 years? You doomsdayers are delusional. Dow will pass record highs probably next year, otherwise 2014.
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bill702	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: WilliamHill.com \|
Veteran Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1319 Location: Nevada	#9 Posted: 11/29/2012 12:33:43 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2: You mean just it crashed and burned the last 4 years? You doomsdayers are delusional. Dow will pass record highs probably next year, otherwise 2014. Based on what? "Hope"
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depeche2	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 66822 Location: Illinois	#10 Posted: 12/10/2012 3:48:41 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bill702: Based on what? "Hope" Based on math and valuations.
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esplanade	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 7960 Location:	#11 Posted: 12/10/2012 6:58:49 PM When you turn the USD into toilet paper, it takes more TP to buy a stock. Why is that so hard for you lefties to understand?
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depeche2	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 66822 Location: Illinois	#12 Posted: 12/11/2012 11:10:14 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by esplanade: When you turn the USD into toilet paper, it takes more TP to buy a stock. Why is that so hard for you lefties to understand? All in your imagination. I like my USD. If you don't, feel free to give yours to me.
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wallstreetcappers	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Covers Linesmen Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 47636 Location: United States	#13 Posted: 12/11/2012 12:32:04 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2: Based on math and valuations. I dont think you can use past valuations for what our present currently is. Never in the history of this country has the FED manipulated the markets through bond purchases AND setting interest rates this low. The valuations currently placed on the market are reflective of the interest rate environment, which is manipulated and phony. I think the market without the FED, even now would be 50-75% lower than it is..shocking numbers but I think it would be quite severe. Without the FED buying all our debt, rates would probably be closer to the rest of the world with their treasury levels..likely the 10 yr would be in the 5% range, corporate rates higher than this..which means borrowing costs would be higher and liquidity gone. With a 5-6% rate on the 10 yr, valuations are toast..the market would probably be in the 7k range.
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bill702	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: WilliamHill.com \|
Veteran Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1319 Location: Nevada	#14 Posted: 12/13/2012 6:07:04 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2: Based on math and valuations. I would love to get a look at your math and calculations.
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theblueprint	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Prospect Joined: May 2011 Posts: 117 Location: Djibouti	#15 Posted: 3/25/2013 8:35:25 AM Well look where we are now.
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HBCUMEACDr.	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Caesars Palace \|
Banned Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 7 Location: North Carolina	#16 Posted: 4/16/2013 9:40:53 AM U people kill me with the lopsided evaluation. . Be serious, open ya dam eyes. I am a republican but I value that I am a very intelligent person and can see what is happening around me and not just neing biest.. Any fool can see that my right wing jack *** got us here.. we wnt from one of the most lucrative times in US HISTORY TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEFICITS EVER... THANKS RIGHT WING IDIOTS..
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DaBestEver24	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1697 Location: Hawaii	#17 Posted: 4/17/2013 3:51:02 AM Obama for president!!!
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thorpe	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 7169 Location:	#18 Posted: 4/20/2013 9:52:00 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by depeche2: You mean just it crashed and burned the last 4 years? You doomsdayers are delusional. Dow will pass record highs probably next year, otherwise 2014. Nice call.
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