Market Fear Part II

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Posted: 11/23/2011 11:58:58 AM
So lets get the party started, anyone smell fear out there?

I do not and it would take another 4k drop before I am interested in starting a long position.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 12:07:19 PM
Fear?  I'm taking the 1.9% and passing on ALL equities, period.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 1:46:40 PM
me neither

i still see plenty of investors drunk off their behind on the kool-aid.  i'll keep my eye out for a breakaway gap and parabolic move in the VIX and a sustained level of 1.50 and higher in the put/call ratio.

I do however see a significant flight to safety in terms of demand for the US$ and US debt.  debt auctions have been "off the charts" strong here in the US while overseas . . . . . . . . . .well i'm sure you know what it means when many of the european auctions literally would not function without ECB intervention.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 6:51:33 PM
what's going on in europe and asia?
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Posted: 11/23/2011 9:30:38 PM
I think the foreign political groups are trying to hold the ship together, which is why the Euro is way up here given the mess the union is in. I dont get why the Euro is any higher than PAR vs the USD.

If there becomes a crack, a real crack I think the flood gates will open fast and furious..signs of fatigue are showing all over the place.


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Posted: 11/25/2011 11:39:47 PM
Interesting reversal late today. I still saw no reason for the move up in the first place..some hope of a hope of a hope?

Given the unknown all over the place I have no idea why we are over 10k or even 8k.
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Posted: 11/26/2011 2:59:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 2169:

what's going on in europe and asia?


Nothing is happening. It's not like they are going to be bankrupt are they?

friggin idiots that play the market just follow the dumbfuck headlines of the day.


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Posted: 11/26/2011 9:52:43 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Spooker:



Nothing is happening. It's not like they are going to be bankrupt are they?

friggin idiots that play the market just follow the dumbfuck headlines of the day.




To some idiots, following dumbfuck headlines is rather important. 
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Posted: 11/30/2011 12:02:21 PM
What a mess..

So the FED and others decide to give cheap cash to Euro banks and the markets go up ANOTHER 3 percent..that makes a total of 7 percent in the last three sessions off Black Friday sales and this.

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Posted: 11/30/2011 5:41:48 PM
A real eye-opener these past several days have been. Strange times
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Posted: 11/30/2011 9:55:06 PM
My portfolio have seen $10K hike. I got $100,000 invested so a 10% rise in the last 2 days. Off course my portfolio went down that much prior to Black Friday. It sucks. I want to make $500,000 on the market and my companies are awesome and release great reports but the bear market is just friggin them.
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Posted: 11/30/2011 10:14:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Spooker:

My portfolio have seen $10K hike. I got $100,000 invested so a 10% rise in the last 2 days. Off course my portfolio went down that much prior to Black Friday. It sucks. I want to make $500,000 on the market and my companies are awesome and release great reports but the bear market is just friggin them.
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Posted: 12/1/2011 4:05:33 PM

I suspect the collapse happens next summer... the bubble bursted in 08 right before the election... my guess is for a repeat performance.

 

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Posted: 12/1/2011 7:51:40 PM
No collapse. Geez such negative view. You obviously don't have money in anything except the price of toilet paper.

Get into the mining shares around the world. They will outdo the equities.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 1:20:23 AM
record black friday sales, great job figures, european crisis overblown, i think the dow could reach 13000 in a couple of months
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Posted: 12/3/2011 12:44:13 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mr_bollox:

record black friday sales, great job figures, european crisis overblown, i think the dow could reach 13000 in a couple of months

Look closer..

Record friday sales were on the back of low margin sales, that means profits are down and sales are going to be up. The EU crisis could be overblown, could be way under blown..I tend to lean towards under estimated.

You also fail to mention high unemployment, low domestic growth, high corporate and individual leveraging and debt and low investment flows into the equity markets.

I think the markets are overvalued to the tune of 50% to fair value.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 5:20:27 PM
IM a young buck thinking about getting into the stock market,. is is a good time or not? i hear a 2008 reccession will happen again within the next 6 months, any help,suggestions ?
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Posted: 12/7/2011 3:59:58 PM
So much for fear..

Every day there is some Euro rumor that ramps stocks higher and higher and higher.
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Posted: 12/7/2011 4:29:01 PM
Wallstreet, I don't get it either.  This is such a news oriented market now. 
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Posted: 12/8/2011 11:03:29 AM
Wallstreet - You care to entertain us with some short plays you're on?!?  Throw us a bone man!!! 
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Posted: 12/13/2011 8:08:49 AM
europe is being WAY under estimated by market price thats for sure, you think lehman was bad imagine europe has too big to bail banks not fail when 1 of them goes the dominoes will tumble. 2008/9 will look like allen iverson said "practice". black friday sales were up whoopie doo they did everything but give inventory away to get people in the doors and started earlier too. unemployment is still terrible we need 150k / month to keep up and we cant even get that !!! 2012 will be YOGI's Year. but you guys can all see the market manipulators pulling every trick they can to prop up this market for a year end rally. been long and will exit before holiday so that if greece or any other euro country decide to have a bank holiday during the holiday i wont be stuck holding the bag.  hoping to get a big push this week in the markets. 
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Posted: 12/13/2011 8:14:28 AM
today is action day. the dollar index is on the verge of breaking out over 80. helicopter Ben will "say" not "do" something to knock it lower I believe.   that should lift equities into rally mode again. If not the bears take over again. 
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Posted: 12/13/2011 1:49:33 PM
I see some fear from the average joe investor but us swing traders and day traders are ramping up volume on ETF's and I don't see that changing in the near future (insert your own timeframe here) 
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Posted: 12/13/2011 3:29:27 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by GambleForProfit:

I see some fear from the average joe investor but us swing traders and day traders are ramping up volume on ETF's and I don't see that changing in the near future (insert your own timeframe here) 

So what do you do in the markets, just curious and welcome!


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Posted: 12/13/2011 4:53:43 PM

WSC

What are your thoughts on DRYS at 2.15?

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