New Covers Beta Project: The Stats Engine begins Tuesday, July 24th

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Posted: 7/23/2007 3:39:45 PM

The Stats Engine beta What is the Stats Engine?

Covers staff has created an Engine that will allow you to compare the key MLB stats that we’ve compiled in our databases to figure out your best wagering scenarios.

Why would you use the Stats Engine?

It’s the best way to:

  • Run past results to predict future outcomes
  • Find win percentages for your favorite betting situations
  • Build and save your own personal reports
  • Share your best results with other users

Professional handicappers have been using similar tools for years to improve their performance and Covers.com wants you to continue to seek the best betting scenarios and share them with our wagering community.

Share your feedback

The Stats Engine is a beta project, so please give us your suggestions and feedback within this forum thread. We want to give you another great product and we need your help to make it the best it can be.

Please note: Official launch date is Tuesday, July 24th. URL to follow on launch date.

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Posted: 7/23/2007 3:44:47 PM
Wow, sounds like your programmers have been hard at work.  Sounds interesting.
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Posted: 7/23/2007 11:24:31 PM
this is awesome - should be great stuff - i can't wait to use it
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Posted: 7/25/2007 9:11:55 AM
Hi Everyone,

You can locate the stats engine from this product page located on Covers Experts.

The product page also features a demo that explains how to use the engine.

Please give us your feedback in this thread for what we can improve as this is a beta project and we want to make The Stats Engine everything you would like to have for sorting stats and figuring out trends for all major sports.

Cheers,

Mr_C
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Posted: 7/25/2007 12:35:31 PM
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Posted: 7/25/2007 12:49:30 PM
so far so good - i have run a few searches and it is great
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Posted: 7/25/2007 2:11:55 PM
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Posted: 7/25/2007 11:34:23 PM
I see that on the page it says try it for free. You guys arent seriously thinking about charging for this stuff are you?  Considering there is already a ton of sites that offer this same type of product for free.
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Posted: 7/26/2007 7:09:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

I see that on the page it says try it for free. You guys arent seriously thinking about charging for this stuff are you?  Considering there is already a ton of sites that offer this same type of product for free.


Hey cd329,

We are offering the beta product for free, so we can get feedback from everyone and see if it's something that everyone would like to see developed further.

Thanks for the feedback,

Mr_C
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Posted: 7/27/2007 1:57:56 PM
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Does that mean that you are thinking about charging for it, or are you just looking to get feedback at this point?
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Posted: 7/27/2007 2:00:12 PM
CD329,
 
what other sites offer this feature??  I mean being able to filter the different fields like the covers beta version offers???
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Posted: 7/29/2007 10:54:55 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LongTermProfits:

Mr. C
 
Does that mean that you are thinking about charging for it, or are you just looking to get feedback at this point?


Hey LongTermProfits,

We really need User feedback to see if Users like it and find value in it

We're not going to rule out charging for the product or having free pieces and paid pieces of the Stats engine, but at this point we need feedback. Our beta projects can go four different ways after launch.

1. We can discontinue
2. We can make it free (with limited features)
3. We can make the basic model free and offer additional paid features (build a better product)
4. We can charge for it

Trust us we know everyone likes option 2.  We can dedicate staff to making a better product if we use option 3, but maybe everyone will like the simple product.

Cheers,
Mr_C
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Posted: 7/29/2007 11:00:40 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LongTermProfits:

CD329,
 
what other sites offer this feature??  I mean being able to filter the different fields like the covers beta version offers???


Hey LongTermProfits,

We have no clue what sites CD329 is referring to. We looked around the market when we first decided to create The Stats Engine and saw some simple sorting options that were not very effective. We wanted to build something that was really useful for bettors.

We would like to know a site that has something that can stand up against The Stats Engine. CD329 what sites are you referring to?

Cheers,
Mr_C
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Posted: 7/30/2007 1:29:41 PM
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thanks for the info - I appreciate the feedback
 
I actually do prefer option 2, but without the "limited" features - feel free to go ahead and include all features on the free version -  LOL
 
the only site I have seen that offers anything like this is stat fox and i think they run all the searches for you and just show you the results - I don't think you can actually set up the filters yourself - and of course they charge
 
love the beta version - it is a great tool to add to what i already use on your site for research - thanks for the great product - I hope it continues, whether free or for a fee
 
 
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Posted: 8/7/2007 6:48:28 PM
Hi there:

Great product and nice demonstration. Will this have data for the nfl for past seasons or will it only record data for this following season?
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Posted: 8/8/2007 6:55:04 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ensign_lee:

Hi there:

Great product and nice demonstration. Will this have data for the nfl for past seasons or will it only record data for this following season?


Hi ensign_lee,

We will be launching a portion with NFL and NCAAF in the near future and it should have the past few seasons available for each sport.

Thank you,
Mr_C
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Posted: 8/17/2007 1:46:53 AM
Is there a way to add a column for what the cost of the unit was for MLB?

This way you can do some risk based data mining.   It just shows units won or lost...doesn't show what was risked to win or lose that bet....

thanks.
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Posted: 8/20/2007 11:21:01 AM
Hey Buckeye2281,

Great suggestion. We'll look at that column for the future.

Thanks,
Mr_C
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Posted: 8/22/2007 8:54:11 PM
was trying to run it for total runs in 2nd of MLB dublleheter after the 1st game and it didnt have this option
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QUOTE Originally Posted by kshifrin:

was trying to run it for total runs in 2nd of MLB dublleheter after the 1st game and it didnt have this option


Hi kshifrin,

We'll look at adding the option to study 2nd games of a doubleheader into The Stats Engine.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Cheers,
Mr_C
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Posted: 8/24/2007 9:16:07 AM
I know this is beta, but how far back does the data go or how far back can you go?  I also think you should have RL price and moneyline price as part of the sorts in MLB.  It looks pretty decent for a beta.  Thanks.
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Posted: 8/24/2007 9:21:34 AM
Very nice indeed for a beta.
 
I wrote in the baseball forum that I was planning to do a similar thing for the NBA season. But if Covers is going to do it, why waste my time writing a program I know I can get more info from this site?
 
I love this type of database.
 
If people remember years back when I found a "perfect trend" in the NBA when T'Wolves had alternative wins and losses (ATS) on the road against Pacific teams.
 
I think I played the last 11-12 occurrences and went perfect.
 
That trend went perfect during regular season.
 
You can find things like that to take advantage in your plays.
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Posted: 8/25/2007 10:05:43 AM
nice. i ran all teams vs. LH & RH for the past month. it gave game by game results, but no total record. e.g. mets vs RH 11-10, LH 5-6. can it give the sum of results? ty
esp. like the xls export
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Posted: 8/25/2007 12:42:07 PM
Very nice!
 
I have been searching the internet for some time looking for such an engine and thinking it would be a good selling tool for someone (or website) to drive business (more hits).  You know they have the stats and archive the data and, thus, I hate hearing a tout say something like "Boston is 6-10 on the road against LH" and thinking "why can I not find this information quickly and simply?". 
 
I have been cutting/paste out of wagerline and building my own stats in Excel.
 
One recommendation would be to add the moneyline odds.  Say I wanted to look up how the Tigers were as a favorite of -200 or more.  Or as an underdog.  You could even add the <, =.  and > function.  Like the tigers as a favorite between -130 and -150.
 
Still a nice tool to have!
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Posted: 8/25/2007 1:16:24 PM
Not to be picky, just looked up the Blue Jays RH/LH stats and noted some of the fields under RH/LH were empty (blank).  Such as the 7/27-29 series vs the White Sox.
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