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Posted: 9/10/2012 9:14:04 AM
I have backtested 2 systems one for both NFL, NCAAF and one for MLB,NHL going back to 05/06 seasons, each of these has averaged between +100 - +200 units for each sport and each season. Now for obvious reasons I am not willing to disclose what the systems are, but I can tell you they are not chase systems. Now my main question is if you were this successful using these would the books not start to see your patterns and either ban you from their book or seriously limit your betting limits? I know this sounds unreal but it is.
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Posted: 9/10/2012 9:41:53 AM
Depends on your book to be honest. If you have a local it usually goes through a runner. Those guys typically don't have the knowledge to notice. Larger books may have an automated method of checking. They would look for correlation and betting patterns. Outside of that, you wouldn't raise any red flags in my opinion. That being said, if you were to start burying them they may take a look to see what exactly is going on.
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Posted: 9/10/2012 9:58:54 AM

Yea. I dont use a local. Only online books.

Yea so maybe going to vegas directly would be the route,Thank for the input. 

 

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Posted: 9/10/2012 10:19:53 AM
if your using online books like 5dimes , diamond , bookmaker then it doesn't matter.  some online books will have a warning on there site that there recreational betting book only and will kick you off for winning too much money and using systems.
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Posted: 9/10/2012 10:33:04 AM
I use bookmaker. For the MLB, NHL system I have to be able to use the RL and PL, do locals usually offer those as well? And for the NFL,NCAAF I need access to ALT lines. And if need be I guess I could always use my account and my wifes to seperate potential pattern betting. Thanks...
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Posted: 9/10/2012 1:57:38 PM
I was actually going to suggest multiple accounts or books to minimize detection likelihlocal. Depends on how your local is run really. Many locals now use proxy sites. Typically hosted out of costa rica. These offer some but not many Alt lines. You can def find RL and PL on these. As for Vegas, I think any Cantor run book would take these bets.
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Posted: 9/10/2012 2:57:08 PM
Understood. Thank you.
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Posted: 9/10/2012 2:57:08 PM
Understood. Thank you.
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Posted: 9/11/2012 1:23:35 PM
Now my next question is, if I could provide proof of these consistant positive result(II guess with screen shots, or ???), do you think people would be interested in joining an investement club.... where in I never truly reveal the systems but all funds are distrubuted to investors on a monthly basis?
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Posted: 9/11/2012 3:08:09 PM
not interested in any kind of investors club, but if you can provide solid proof of these results i would be willing to pay for the picks..and/or pay well for the parameters behind it.
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Posted: 9/11/2012 3:17:42 PM
How would/could I provide proof, without exposing system parameters? And yes I assume I could sell the system outright but then everyone would have it and it could alter the system in a very negative way I would assume...
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Posted: 9/11/2012 3:19:44 PM
I will send you a friend request...so i can pm you,
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Posted: 9/12/2012 5:07:15 AM
Accepted.
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Posted: 9/12/2012 5:42:45 PM
Just a FYI, Station Casinos do not take NHL Puck lines, so I have to drive over to the Sun Coast. Love betting the PL, especially home dogs. High juice but last year hit 74%, 220-77. Bet a labby line and win back those losses!
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Posted: 9/12/2012 5:55:17 PM
Thanks for the heads up. My system does not focus on home dogs rather on creating a favorable situation for all dogs. Volume. Volume. Volume.
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Posted: 9/12/2012 6:14:50 PM
 I am looking for people that would be interested in an investment club, where you can send me from $10 to whatever your comfortable with and I use my systems to gain profits each month, what I will initially be offering is an 80%/20% split where 80% of net profits are returned to investor via paypal or method of your choice. I will be offering this to about 30-40 people to start out and then take it from there. Now I know most would say if this system truly works as well as described then why would you need other peoples money, the answer is simple, the quicker I have access to larger amounts of money the quicker I can achieve my goals, simple and honest. If you are interested or have any questions please let me know. All the best.
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Posted: 9/12/2012 7:12:21 PM
MLB last night 10-5-1 @ avg. odds of +120

NFL week 1 13-3 @ avg. odds of +180
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Posted: 9/12/2012 11:12:34 PM
Post the picks even if they are after the game has started. Posting records without the plays won't get you many investors or followers. Proof is in the pudding brother.
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Posted: 9/13/2012 12:13:18 AM

If you had investors money etc. you would need several accounts. All books will cut your limits back to peanuts after awhile. Even vegas casinos will limit you if you're winning consistently.

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Posted: 9/13/2012 5:11:20 AM
Its a catch 22, if I post the picks anyone with half a brain could figure it out, system exposed game over.

Yes. Several accounts would eventually be used, and not talking millions here, ALT line bets are limited to between $500 -$1000 anyway online. RL and PL are a bit higher.
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Posted: 9/13/2012 9:41:09 AM
This will be my last post here on covers. I will be spending my time further developing these systems. Should you have interest please send me a pm. Regards....
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Posted: 9/16/2012 9:34:53 AM
NFL Backtested results:

06/07 177-77
07/08 173-83
08/09 182-74
09/10 177-80
10/11 168-90
11/12 159-99

1036-503 = 67% @ between -115 to even $

No capping involved whatsoever.
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Posted: 9/16/2012 11:06:19 AM
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Posted: 9/16/2012 5:33:25 PM

And if need be I guess I could always use my account and my wifes to seperate potential pattern betting. Thanks...

You'll need to be coming from different IP addresses if you think that will work. I've had 7 accounts closed over the last three years even when I was using different IP addresses. The screens the books use will find the pattern eventually so use it as much as you can, try and spread it around as much as you can and keep looking for more books.

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