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Posted: 4/15/2012 10:00:38 PM
Cisco thanks i get it.  The problem is other people mis stating your variable.  Ironically in the post at the top of the post is wrong regarding the variables. I tested it and its a big loser.  Whats humorous is all the guys who wrote me saying that they follow it and they say its a winner....lol.   Thank you for your work i appreciate it.
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Posted: 4/17/2012 5:57:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cisco:

No. Game 1 was on 4/22 -185. The chase is finished. Read the friggin rule. There's only one.

Home Favorite Chase System
Play on a +.470 team that has lost their last 3 or more home games as a favorite of -110 or more, and is again favored at home by -110 or more. I chase for up to 4 games

and get the un .470 out of your head. it's a different system.

Don't ask me any questions. I'm done with this.



sorry it just doesnt work its NOT 23-0   the losses are not counted in going over these games you would win 3.22 units

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgcAOjS0y6RTdEZGWkI0TGk5Rnc5aUxFdUVrTHRBWkE
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Posted: 4/17/2012 10:30:11 PM
Wilson? WTF man? I just checked the first few and you are dead wrong man! The team has to be a HOME FAV... like Cisco said "read the friggin rule"... 
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Posted: 4/17/2012 10:32:37 PM
Thanks wilson... now I know the money I made last season was all a big dream !!!!!!!!
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Posted: 4/17/2012 10:54:00 PM
wait a second what i am looking for is he set variables, the results are in the spreadsheet......i am sure you made money but NOT following the rules he stated period, impossible.  we are trying to trade information the info on his sheet is simply wrong.  If you want last years game by game lines taken from here at covers he could not have been 23-0.  In fact just go to one set of games, these are his numbers remember not mine.  Colorado (row 11) he has two blank spaces before he credits himself with a win in Game three. The third loss was 5/25 not 5/26 is the first play and he LOSES -1.59 so how could he have NO loses, then loses the next game for -1.56.  Go to Colorado look for yourself, its not emotional, i simply showed with the link that the numbers he posted as plays dont fit with his system and he doesnt record when he loses.  There are atleast 10 Factual errors in his system.  Another thing about following someone and winning....great  Go check the one team, Colorado......go to the dates and read it if i am wrong all expense trip to vegas on me............

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgcAOjS0y6RTdEZGWkI0TGk5Rnc5aUxFdUVrTHRBWkE#gid=0
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Posted: 4/17/2012 11:24:19 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgcAOjS0y6RTdG0wZXFVcXRqSVpYa0lITWF6a1E1VVE#gid=0

for the guys that wrote back to me here is all of last years line data.
I take it from covers, but willing to put any source in you want. if you go to my earlier post each mistake is listed and here is the data for the year. 
this was his criteria.....   you can check each game i listed as being an error......carefully read his criteria I DID.  3 Loses in a row as a favorite of -1.10 or higher is the trigger to play the next time they are a favorite of -1.10 or higher ( i did get it Ddubb)  and went further and listed each and every mistake that was made.  Stickbit if you made money great,  what i am interested in is getting the data down as close to perfect as i can.  In my above link you can see that i took the time to go over each and every mistake from HIS stated variables and there are almost 20 mistakes in one year.  He says 23-0  because when he loses he doesnt count it.......smile whats up with that?   I did measure the system back to 2004, with no mistakes and it is a small play winning 83.5 Units over an eight year period.  Here is the kicker Stickbit......a couple of years you get walloped.  i put the data out there and showed the mistakes its that simple.  Another thing its not personal.  Just want to get the data straight.
 Home Favorite Chase System
Play on a +.470 team that has lost their last 3 or more home games as a favorite of -110 or more, and is again favored at home by -110 or more. I chase for up to 4 games
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Posted: 4/18/2012 2:09:17 AM
Hey cisco, sorry if I am illiterate but I thought I saw a spreadsheet this morning with all the plays like the one that was set up last year.  I thought I saw texas +1.5 and Mil ml as plays for today.  Am I missing the thread or was I following someone else's chase.

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Posted: 4/18/2012 8:38:00 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Wilson5353:

wait a second what i am looking for is he set variables, the results are in the spreadsheet......i am sure you made money but NOT following the rules he stated period, impossible.  we are trying to trade information the info on his sheet is simply wrong.  If you want last years game by game lines taken from here at covers he could not have been 23-0.  In fact just go to one set of games, these are his numbers remember not mine.  Colorado (row 11) he has two blank spaces before he credits himself with a win in Game three. The third loss was 5/25 not 5/26 is the first play and he LOSES -1.59 so how could he have NO loses, then loses the next game for -1.56.  Go to Colorado look for yourself, its not emotional, i simply showed with the link that the numbers he posted as plays dont fit with his system and he doesnt record when he loses.  There are atleast 10 Factual errors in his system.  Another thing about following someone and winning....great  Go check the one team, Colorado......go to the dates and read it if i am wrong all expense trip to vegas on me............

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgcAOjS0y6RTdEZGWkI0TGk5Rnc5aUxFdUVrTHRBWkE#gid=0

Wilson,

I gave your spreadsheet a quick glance and I think I see where you are getting confused. Here is a copy of one of your comments:

3rd loss was 5/30   lost 5/31 -1.83    6/1 lost -1.40   won 6/3, 1.00  which equals a loss of 2.23 units

In your example, you aren't chasing the team for 4 games to win a unit. you are flat betting the team and if so, you will never get the same results as Cisco. On 5/31 you lost 1.83 units so, on 6/1 you should bet to win 2.83 units (which will win you back the 1.83 units you lost plus the 1 unit you are trying to win). Since the team lost again on 6/1, you would need to bet in game 3 the 1.83 units lost in game 1, the 1.4 units lost in game 2, plus the 1 unit you are trying to win in the chase. Since game 3 was a win in your example, you would have won the units you lost in the first 2 games plus the 1 unit you are trying to win. This is a CHASE.

Chases seem to work best in betting baseball since you usually have 3 or 4 game series with the same team.  Chasing a team just means you are always betting to win a certain unit plus you need to include the losses from any previous games. In theory, you will win the unit because based on the parameters set in the chase, the team you are betting on will eventually win you a game.

Hope this helps and good luck!!

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Posted: 4/18/2012 8:52:52 AM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by Pboy400:

Hey cisco, sorry if I am illiterate but I thought I saw a spreadsheet this morning with all the plays like the one that was set up last year.  I thought I saw texas +1.5 and Mil ml as plays for today.  Am I missing the thread or was I following someone else's chase.

Thanks

It's mine. Giants & Milwaukee today.

 

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Posted: 4/18/2012 11:00:48 AM
Today play CHW
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Posted: 4/18/2012 1:17:52 PM
Wow.

This Wilson guy is actually functionally retarded.
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Posted: 4/18/2012 1:48:04 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by The__Man:

Wow.

This Wilson guy is actually functionally retarded.


Damn Noob!!! Lol, but at least he tried. Better than doing nothing and being annoying asking a million questions.
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Posted: 4/18/2012 5:17:58 PM
okay thanks air i put up last years lines.  I posted the spreadsheet that listed the 20 mistakes that were made. Okay i am retarded.  20 mistakes in One little spreadsheet how does that make anyone retarded?  Its simple I put the whole year up challenged people to look at the mistakes, instead they do this insult stuff.  Its okay.  The mistakes are there.  By the way i hardly function i am sure The Man didnt go back and look at all the mistakes in the spreadsheet that were made.  I pointed out each mistake and not one person took me up on that one item, not on one.

here is the one with each mistake itemized.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgcAOjS0y6RTdEZGWkI0TGk5Rnc5aUxFdUVrTHRBWkE#gid=0

further i also in the spread made a promise to anyone who atleast checked the work that was done that i would send them 8 years of baseball lines (Covers line) info so they could check independently. Two guys did and i sent them the info as they NOW see all the mistakes that were made on the original sheet.  They dont post because they dont want to be insulted.  The lines dont lie man.
further, mistakes were made.  I sure dont attack the guy who made him. If you go back in Cisco's posts he has made a huge contribution to trying to get this stuff right.
no problem guys to those who wanted info i shared if you want to challenge my assumptions or questions and do it with a level of civility i will share with you. Damn i make mistakes all day, i want to win and have a billion spreadsheets here, just trying to figure it out. If I put a question out there, respond to the facts.  I got this one exactly right.......
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Posted: 4/18/2012 5:59:55 PM
Wilson,

How hard is it to comprehend when a team loses 3 HOME GAMES IN A ROW AT -110 or more a chase will be started? 


The only mistakes you itemized is your inability to grasp the system. 
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Posted: 4/18/2012 6:37:56 PM
Hey cisco.  Where is the exact spreadsheet that was posted yesterday.  The one that I saw the other day was a little different than the link I just clicked on or did you redo the spreadsheet?
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Posted: 4/18/2012 6:54:30 PM
[Quote: Originally Posted by Alldaygambler28] Wilson,

How hard is it to comprehend when a team loses 3 HOME GAMES IN A ROW AT -110 or more a chase will be started?  


The only mistakes you itemized is your inability to grasp the system.  
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgcAOjS0y6RTdEZGWkI0TGk5Rnc5aUxFdUVrTHRBWkE#gid=0

go to the link it lists each mistake and tell me what i did wrong, further i put up in a link the entire season.  You can go to ciscos system and then check it with the entire year.  The above link lists each mistake that was made.  I grasp it completely, either you dont or you didnt check each mistake not according me, but accroding to the variables that Cisco gave.....three loses at home of favorites of -1.10 or more........thats the trigger and then start betting on them if they are a home favorite of -1.10 or more the next time that happens.  In his spreadsheet that i copied in the column to the right if it is labled correct its fine.  Read each explanation of why that is not a pick according to HIS variables and what the results are.  Two guys went to the work and now understand it.  But you gotta read it. Further;  i went back to 2004 and did it for eight years.   You win a total of 85 units using Cisco's system (  which i think is a good play) however be careful of the data that was put out cuz its riddled with errors.  Go to my link here and also you can double check me cuz i put the whole year out there.  This shall be my last response to comments about me being the idiot. hahahahaah who cares read the data.  Met a few chaps here that just want to get the data straight and learn from each other.  I am very sure you didnt read and check the data.  nuff said.

2011 season Lines game by game team by team

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgcAOjS0y6RTdG0wZXFVcXRqSVpYa0lITWF6a1E1VVE#gid=0

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Posted: 4/18/2012 7:09:01 PM
Dude, your wrong on every single one of them.  Are you serious?

As an example to inform you I guess.

You said the Angels were not a play as they only had one loss. 


The Angels lost as home favorites on 4/23/11, 4/27/11, and 5/7/11 consecutively as favorites (meaning 3 games in a row as home favorites.  All games in between those dates the Angels were either a home dog or road dog.  So that means those games don't count.  Thus, on 5/8/11 they were home favorites again which make them a game 1 play.  They won the game so the chase is finished with a Game 1 winner.

Really, how much simpler can it be? 
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Posted: 4/18/2012 7:12:21 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by Pboy400:

Hey cisco.  Where is the exact spreadsheet that was posted yesterday.  The one that I saw the other day was a little different than the link I just clicked on or did you redo the spreadsheet?

How do I know what you were looking at/

Here. If I had a dime for every time I put this up...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkIdkXC0UBUbdDZ6TVB2aGhWRjJWWW1aeDVjME5sdGc#gid=0

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Posted: 4/18/2012 7:14:39 PM

ADG28- Don't even bother with this guy. Ignore him.

I know one thing, I'm not giving my money back.

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Posted: 4/18/2012 7:16:01 PM
Okay guys enough clutter in this thread!
Wilson I sent a friend request. I will clarify the system/problem through pm.
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Posted: 4/18/2012 7:17:46 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cisco:


I know one thing, I'm not giving my money back.


At least not in baseball.... we will all probably lose it in another sport
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cool didnt receive it yet air, will send you one as well.......
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QUOTE Originally Posted by Wilson5353:

cool didnt receive it yet air, will send you one as well.......


Go to your space and at the bottom left it will say friend request pending. Accept it
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Posted: 4/20/2012 1:34:20 AM

Angels have lost 3 in a row and favored -145 Friday.

Somebody show the coconut how it's done.

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Posted: 4/20/2012 2:08:51 AM
i assume you are referring to me.  yes according to the variables stated you will lay the LAA  -1.45  they are a play.  It fits the variable set you layed out. 
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