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Posted: 10/28/2010 1:24:36 PM
ahh the anti jm system.... sorry for my questions.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 1:33:43 PM
JFISH - those are the Anti-JM (AJM) plays. You just play the opposite of what the JM system would have you play on. Since the AJM lost both A bets of the series, you would then keep betting against those teams until they lose (B or C) a bet.

Smits - okay, I am just trying to be clear here. Please pardon the repetition.
I see a posted record for AJM last year was 80-2.
What I am asking is -
             Is the 80-2 AJM record from simply betting the opposite of what JM would play on for 3 games until a win (without buying pts of course - I get that and thx) against v1 and v2, or is it only against v1?
We both understand what the AJM is...I just want to know what the 80-2 record is from last year...is it against both v1 and v2? or just v1?
thx in advance
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Posted: 10/28/2010 2:48:39 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

JFISH - those are the Anti-JM (AJM) plays. You just play the opposite of what the JM system would have you play on. Since the AJM lost both A bets of the series, you would then keep betting against those teams until they lose (B or C) a bet.

Smits - okay, I am just trying to be clear here. Please pardon the repetition.
I see a posted record for AJM last year was 80-2.
What I am asking is -
             Is the 80-2 AJM record from simply betting the opposite of what JM would play on for 3 games until a win (without buying pts of course - I get that and thx) against v1 and v2, or is it only against v1?
We both understand what the AJM is...I just want to know what the 80-2 record is from last year...is it against both v1 and v2? or just v1?
thx in advance


80-2 is the combined record for v1 and v2. 
v3 is not included in the 80-2 record (v3 JM was 26-2, AJM v3 was worse).
If you look at last years thread, I denote the plays as JM1 for version 1 and JM2 as version 2, but the 80-2 record is combined.
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:03:13 PM

I'm going to do this:

Whenever I lose a JM v4 play (the other thread titled "NHL Road Chase), I'm going to play the Anti-JM wagers, -only if- they are a v1 or v2 play

That way, I won't have to worry about making 2 (A) bets on the same day against each other.  If I keep losing the v4 play, I won't play any anti-JM plays for the series.  If I win the v4 play, I'll start playing the anti-JM (assuming it's v1 or v2)

Sound smart?

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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:31:52 PM
haha you payed for the system ill be here to the end dont worry
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Posted: 10/28/2010 3:39:15 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by smdio:

I'm going to do this:

Whenever I lose a JM v4 play (the other thread titled "NHL Road Chase), I'm going to play the Anti-JM wagers, -only if- they are a v1 or v2 play

That way, I won't have to worry about making 2 (A) bets on the same day against each other.  If I keep losing the v4 play, I won't play any anti-JM plays for the series.  If I win the v4 play, I'll start playing the anti-JM (assuming it's v1 or v2)

Sound smart?

This should have said "NBA Road Chase"

Sorry, getting systems crossed :/

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Posted: 10/29/2010 9:29:11 AM
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Anti JM Version 2: Labby

Record: 0-2 
Profit: -$
Risked: $22
ROI: -100%

Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
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Anti JM Version 2: ABC

Record: 0-2
Profit: -$22
Risked: $22
ROI: -100%

B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21

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Posted: 10/29/2010 9:53:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by pokerpro40k:

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Anti JM Version 2: Labby

Record: 0-2 
Profit: -$
Risked: $22
ROI: -100%

Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
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Anti JM Version 2: ABC

Record: 0-2
Profit: -$22
Risked: $22
ROI: -100%

B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21

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Posted: 10/29/2010 10:26:27 AM
Smitler-

I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

Respectfully

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Posted: 10/29/2010 10:48:37 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by pokerpro40k:

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Anti JM Version 2: Labby

Record: 0-2 
Profit: -$
Risked: $22
ROI: -100%

Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11
Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11

Line 1)  New Jersey Nets -2.5   -110   $17.60 yo win $16.00
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Anti JM Version 2: ABC

Record: 0-2
Profit: -$22
Risked: $22
ROI: -100%

B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110  $23.20 to win $21



Your individual game record may be 0-2 bit if you are chasing then your record is 0-0 with 2 pending.
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Posted: 10/29/2010 10:53:29 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

Smitler-

I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

Respectfully

I think it's against v1 v2 as well, pretty sure I read that somewhere

Anti JM doesn't work for v3 or v4

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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:00:43 AM
thx smdio

I was hoping whoever tracked it would tell me instead of guessing. 

I know it does NOT work against v3 & v4. I backtested those either yesterday or the day before and they both came to about 75% win.
This is EXACTLY why I want to make sure the 80-2 record that was tracked WAS against v1 & v2. I don't want to assume it was.

Just cannot get a straight definitive answer...

I appreciate tho
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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:01:53 AM
Maybe it was only against v1?

Who knows?

But I'm trying real hard to find out...
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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:15:50 AM

I'm sure someone has done it.  Just can't remember where I got it from

I know I haven't, as I've only tracked the system that I'm following in the other thread

But I know it's been tracked.  Keep asking, you'll find the guy that did it

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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:18:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

Smitler-

I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that.

What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year?

Respectfully



The answer to your question is!!!!!!!!! (drum roll); VERSION 1 AND VERSION 2!!!

If you would take 1 minute to read each page of last years thread (about 20 minutes)  might happen. You might also gain some insight to increase your chances of success this season.
I also plan to re-read the thread for the same purpose, but it will take me longer since my OCD requires that I analyze every damn sentence.

I'm just fuckin with ya LSU2thBone, My intent is not to offend you.
I hope you understand. I will be lurking and hope to contribute by sharing my JM/AJM experiences.


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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:19:37 AM
I am an idiot. That link doesn't work. Its the "Anti-JM NBA thread".
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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:35:33 AM

so is teh consensus out that Under the ANIT JM SYSTEM, NYJ -2.5 is the play? 

also, is everyone here buying points for all teh systems or are we just playing the spreads outright? thanks alot guys. i really appreciate it

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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:41:57 AM
we always buy PTS correct?? only time we do not buy points is for the ANTI JM??? thanks
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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:45:52 AM
Smit-

I take no offense

JFISH
NJ -2.5 IS the correct AJM play tonight. You do not buy points under this system which makes it more inviting to roll Martingale. Jus sayin.

If it were a regular JM play you would buy 3 pts, but it is AJM so you don't.
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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:47:19 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LSU2thBone:

Smit-

I take no offense

JFISH
NJ -2.5 IS the correct AJM play tonight. You do not buy points under this system which makes it more inviting to roll Martingale. Jus sayin.

If it were a regular JM play you would buy 3 pts, but it is AJM so you don't.

 

thanks ALOT lsu,

anti jm was pretty profitable last year???

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Posted: 10/29/2010 11:50:16 AM

hate to clutter this thread up, but does anyone know how many times the ANTI JM system went to a "C" bet?

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Posted: 10/29/2010 4:00:54 PM
no clue jfish...the records in parenthesis next to the record column is the overall series records so if you look back to the other nights results you will see

Record: 2-0 (2-0)

first is if you had wagered straight....the 2nd in parentheses is the chase record 
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Posted: 10/30/2010 8:59:55 AM

Sorry guys but the Martingale is really not a good idea to use.  Not for any of JM's systems, in my opinion.  Not even Anti JM

You would make *just as much* profits using an aggressive Labourchere, as well as laying far FAR less per bet. Example?

Your base bet is $50.  You're using Martingale.  This is a JM v1 bet, so you'll be buying points.  You lose your (A) bet, which was $85 to win $50.  Your next bet would have to recover the $85 just lost, plus profit the original $50, so it would have to be $229.50 to win $135.  Let's say you lose.  You're now down $229.50 + $85.  Your next (C) bet would have to recover those losses, plus profit your original $50.  Your (C) bet would have to be $618.80 to win $364.  God forbid you run into one of the losses for the year!  You're now out over $1200 !!

Even if you didn't buy points for the Anti JM, as LSU suggest, your final (C) bet would be $231 to win $210.  Lose that and you're out $441, which is equivilant to almost 9 units.

Labourchere used in the same situation will recover -all- of your losses while laying less than half of the bets for Martingale.  You only have to win 40% of your bets to turn a profit using Labourchere, and both the Anti-JM and JM systems hit far more than that.  By the end of the year, using a Labby for both JM and Anti-JM, you'll end up recovering every bet you ever lost, and profiting about 80-100 units.  Seems far more attractive to me than anything Martingale-related..

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Posted: 10/30/2010 11:44:59 AM
any plays for 2nite, New jersey hit with AJM last night.... lets get paiiiiiddd
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Posted: 10/30/2010 12:11:35 PM
Kangaroo or what the user is called backtracked the AJM last season for the season before, and that went even steven as far as I remember.

Just a note for those who might be blinded by the fact that it went without a loss last season.
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