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JFISH	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Rookie Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 660 Location: Illinois	#76 Posted: 10/28/2010 1:24:36 PM ahh the anti jm system.... sorry for my questions.
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LSU2thBone	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BookMaker \|
Prospect Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Michigan	#77 Posted: 10/28/2010 1:33:43 PM JFISH - those are the Anti-JM (AJM) plays. You just play the opposite of what the JM system would have you play on. Since the AJM lost both A bets of the series, you would then keep betting against those teams until they lose (B or C) a bet. Smits - okay, I am just trying to be clear here. Please pardon the repetition. I see a posted record for AJM last year was 80-2. What I am asking is - Is the 80-2 AJM record from simply betting the opposite of what JM would play on for 3 games until a win (without buying pts of course - I get that and thx) against v1 and v2, or is it only against v1? We both understand what the AJM is...I just want to know what the 80-2 record is from last year...is it against both v1 and v2? or just v1? thx in advance
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smitler	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Veteran Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2365 Location: United States	#78 Posted: 10/28/2010 2:48:39 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by LSU2thBone: JFISH - those are the Anti-JM (AJM) plays. You just play the opposite of what the JM system would have you play on. Since the AJM lost both A bets of the series, you would then keep betting against those teams until they lose (B or C) a bet. Smits - okay, I am just trying to be clear here. Please pardon the repetition. I see a posted record for AJM last year was 80-2. What I am asking is - Is the 80-2 AJM record from simply betting the opposite of what JM would play on for 3 games until a win (without buying pts of course - I get that and thx) against v1 and v2, or is it only against v1? We both understand what the AJM is...I just want to know what the 80-2 record is from last year...is it against both v1 and v2? or just v1? thx in advance 80-2 is the combined record for v1 and v2. v3 is not included in the 80-2 record (v3 JM was 26-2, AJM v3 was worse). If you look at last years thread, I denote the plays as JM1 for version 1 and JM2 as version 2, but the 80-2 record is combined.
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Veteran Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1094 Location:	#79 Posted: 10/28/2010 3:03:13 PM I'm going to do this: Whenever I lose a JM v4 play (the other thread titled "NHL Road Chase), I'm going to play the Anti-JM wagers, -only if- they are a v1 or v2 play That way, I won't have to worry about making 2 (A) bets on the same day against each other. If I keep losing the v4 play, I won't play any anti-JM plays for the series. If I win the v4 play, I'll start playing the anti-JM (assuming it's v1 or v2) Sound smart?
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pokerpro40k	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 331 Location: Massachusetts	#80 Posted: 10/28/2010 3:31:52 PM haha you payed for the system ill be here to the end dont worry
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smdio	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1094 Location:	#81 Posted: 10/28/2010 3:39:15 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by smdio: I'm going to do this: Whenever I lose a JM v4 play (the other thread titled "NHL Road Chase), I'm going to play the Anti-JM wagers, -only if- they are a v1 or v2 play That way, I won't have to worry about making 2 (A) bets on the same day against each other. If I keep losing the v4 play, I won't play any anti-JM plays for the series. If I win the v4 play, I'll start playing the anti-JM (assuming it's v1 or v2) Sound smart? This should have said "NBA Road Chase" Sorry, getting systems crossed :/
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pokerpro40k	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Banned Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 331 Location: Massachusetts	#82 Posted: 10/29/2010 9:29:11 AM ------------------------------------------------- Anti JM Version 2: Labby Record: 0-2 Profit: -$ Risked: $22 ROI: -100% Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11 Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11 Line 1) New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110 $17.60 yo win $16.00 -------------------------------------------------------- Anti JM Version 2: ABC Record: 0-2 Profit: -$22 Risked: $22 ROI: -100% B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110 $23.20 to win $21
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avenue	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 3102 Location: New Jersey	#83 Posted: 10/29/2010 9:53:35 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by pokerpro40k: ------------------------------------------------- Anti JM Version 2: Labby Record: 0-2 Profit: -$ Risked: $22 ROI: -100% Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11 Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11 Line 1) New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110 $17.60 yo win $16.00 -------------------------------------------------------- Anti JM Version 2: ABC Record: 0-2 Profit: -$22 Risked: $22 ROI: -100% B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110 $23.20 to win $21
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LSU2thBone	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BookMaker \|
Prospect Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Michigan	#84 Posted: 10/29/2010 10:26:27 AM Smitler- I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that. What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year? Respectfully
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smitler	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Veteran Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2365 Location: United States	#85 Posted: 10/29/2010 10:48:37 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by pokerpro40k: ------------------------------------------------- Anti JM Version 2: Labby Record: 0-2 Profit: -$ Risked: $22 ROI: -100% Line 1) 5-5-5-5-11 Line 1a) 5-5-5-5-11 Line 1) New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110 $17.60 yo win $16.00 -------------------------------------------------------- Anti JM Version 2: ABC Record: 0-2 Profit: -$22 Risked: $22 ROI: -100% B-Bet: New Jersey Nets -2.5 -110 $23.20 to win $21 Your individual game record may be 0-2 bit if you are chasing then your record is 0-0 with 2 pending.
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smdio	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1094 Location:	#86 Posted: 10/29/2010 10:53:29 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by LSU2thBone: Smitler- I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that. What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year? Respectfully I think it's against v1 v2 as well, pretty sure I read that somewhere Anti JM doesn't work for v3 or v4
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LSU2thBone	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BookMaker \|
Prospect Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Michigan	#87 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:00:43 AM thx smdio I was hoping whoever tracked it would tell me instead of guessing. I know it does NOT work against v3 & v4. I backtested those either yesterday or the day before and they both came to about 75% win. This is EXACTLY why I want to make sure the 80-2 record that was tracked WAS against v1 & v2. I don't want to assume it was. Just cannot get a straight definitive answer... I appreciate tho
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LSU2thBone	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BookMaker \|
Prospect Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Michigan	#88 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:01:53 AM Maybe it was only against v1? Who knows? But I'm trying real hard to find out...
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smdio	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1094 Location:	#89 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:15:50 AM I'm sure someone has done it. Just can't remember where I got it from I know I haven't, as I've only tracked the system that I'm following in the other thread But I know it's been tracked. Keep asking, you'll find the guy that did it
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smitler	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Veteran Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2365 Location: United States	#90 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:18:02 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by LSU2thBone: Smitler- I understand the 80-2 record on the JM v1 and v2. Forget about that. What I want to know is what versions did the AJM GO AGAINST to come up with the 80-2 AJM record for last year? Respectfully The answer to your question is!!!!!!!!! (drum roll); VERSION 1 AND VERSION 2!!! If you would take 1 minute to read each page of last years thread (about 20 minutes) might happen. You might also gain some insight to increase your chances of success this season. I also plan to re-read the thread for the same purpose, but it will take me longer since my OCD requires that I analyze every damn sentence. I'm just fuckin with ya LSU2thBone, My intent is not to offend you. I hope you understand. I will be lurking and hope to contribute by sharing my JM/AJM experiences. http://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=100575598&page=1
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smitler	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Veteran Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2365 Location: United States	#91 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:19:37 AM I am an idiot. That link doesn't work. Its the "Anti-JM NBA thread".
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JFISH	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Rookie Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 660 Location: Illinois	#92 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:35:33 AM so is teh consensus out that Under the ANIT JM SYSTEM, NYJ -2.5 is the play? also, is everyone here buying points for all teh systems or are we just playing the spreads outright? thanks alot guys. i really appreciate it
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JFISH	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Rookie Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 660 Location: Illinois	#93 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:41:57 AM we always buy PTS correct?? only time we do not buy points is for the ANTI JM??? thanks
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LSU2thBone	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BookMaker \|
Prospect Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Michigan	#94 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:45:52 AM Smit- I take no offense JFISH NJ -2.5 IS the correct AJM play tonight. You do not buy points under this system which makes it more inviting to roll Martingale. Jus sayin. If it were a regular JM play you would buy 3 pts, but it is AJM so you don't.
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JFISH	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Rookie Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 660 Location: Illinois	#95 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:47:19 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by LSU2thBone: Smit- I take no offense JFISH NJ -2.5 IS the correct AJM play tonight. You do not buy points under this system which makes it more inviting to roll Martingale. Jus sayin. If it were a regular JM play you would buy 3 pts, but it is AJM so you don't. thanks ALOT lsu, anti jm was pretty profitable last year???
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JFISH	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Rookie Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 660 Location: Illinois	#96 Posted: 10/29/2010 11:50:16 AM hate to clutter this thread up, but does anyone know how many times the ANTI JM system went to a "C" bet?
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Banned Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 331 Location: Massachusetts	#97 Posted: 10/29/2010 4:00:54 PM no clue jfish...the records in parenthesis next to the record column is the overall series records so if you look back to the other nights results you will see Record: 2-0 (2-0) first is if you had wagered straight....the 2nd in parentheses is the chase record
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Veteran Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1094 Location:	#98 Posted: 10/30/2010 8:59:55 AM Sorry guys but the Martingale is really not a good idea to use. Not for any of JM's systems, in my opinion. Not even Anti JM You would make just as much profits using an aggressive Labourchere, as well as laying far FAR less per bet. Example? Your base bet is $50. You're using Martingale. This is a JM v1 bet, so you'll be buying points. You lose your (A) bet, which was $85 to win $50. Your next bet would have to recover the $85 just lost, plus profit the original $50, so it would have to be $229.50 to win $135. Let's say you lose. You're now down $229.50 + $85. Your next (C) bet would have to recover those losses, plus profit your original $50. Your (C) bet would have to be $618.80 to win $364. God forbid you run into one of the losses for the year! You're now out over $1200 !! Even if you didn't buy points for the Anti JM, as LSU suggest, your final (C) bet would be $231 to win $210. Lose that and you're out $441, which is equivilant to almost 9 units. Labourchere used in the same situation will recover -all- of your losses while laying less than half of the bets for Martingale. You only have to win 40% of your bets to turn a profit using Labourchere, and both the Anti-JM and JM systems hit far more than that. By the end of the year, using a Labby for both JM and Anti-JM, you'll end up recovering every bet you ever lost, and profiting about 80-100 units. Seems far more attractive to me than anything Martingale-related..
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JFISH	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Rookie Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 660 Location: Illinois	#99 Posted: 10/30/2010 11:44:59 AM any plays for 2nite, New jersey hit with AJM last night.... lets get paiiiiiddd
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Prospect Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Heard and McDonald Islands	#100 Posted: 10/30/2010 12:11:35 PM Kangaroo or what the user is called backtracked the AJM last season for the season before, and that went even steven as far as I remember. Just a note for those who might be blinded by the fact that it went without a loss last season.
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