Oakland at Kansas City (12/24/2011)

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Posted: 12/20/2011 2:11:15 AM

Away:  Oakland [8-5-1 ATS]
Home:  Kansas City [8-6 ATS]

Game Time: 1:00 PM
Stadium: Arrowhead Stadium

Recent Meetings:
10/23/11 - KC 28 vs. OAK 0

Team Leaders:

Oakland:
Passing: Carson Palmer (2099)
Rushing: Michael Bush (841)
Receiving: Darrius Heyward-Bey (775)

Kansas City:
Passing: Matt Cassel (1713)
Rushing: Jackie Battle (541)
Receiving: Dwayne Bowe (986)

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Posted: 12/21/2011 10:32:24 AM

With D-Mac out, this Raiders offense is just too easy to shut down. No way they waltz into Arrowhead with the playoffs still on the line for the Chiefs, and come away with a "W". Chiefs seem to be having that late resurgence - like the Chargers always do, while the Raiders are still the Raiders.

I thought about the "letdown" factor after the win over the Packers, but this is division rival Oakland, coming into Arrowhead, with the winner moving on and the loser going home, and, they already shut the Raiders out 28-0 in Oakland!! Remember Palmer's first "game" as a Raider??

Just ask yourself, at even money - basically no points to give or get - who's the better play here?

Chiefs even.................

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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:33:49 PM

    I'm sorry Quad- I don't see it happening. Last time I looked the Raiders were ahead of the Chiefs in the standings. Inspite, of their sloppy, penalty filled play, Oakland is only a game behind Denver, in a series they both split. As I'm seeing it, a Broncos loss and a "must win" here, and the Raiders are back in the thick of it.

OAKLAND  + 1

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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:40:55 PM

   Ask yourself- For a team that just defeated the Packers at home, Vegas is certainly NOT giving much point spread "love" on the Chiefs.  Maybe they know something you don't.

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Posted: 12/22/2011 12:11:21 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

With D-Mac out, this Raiders offense is just too easy to shut down. No way they waltz into Arrowhead with the playoffs still on the line for the Chiefs, and come away with a "W". Chiefs seem to be having that late resurgence - like the Chargers always do, while the Raiders are still the Raiders.

I thought about the "letdown" factor after the win over the Packers, but this is division rival Oakland, coming into Arrowhead, with the winner moving on and the loser going home, and, they already shut the Raiders out 28-0 in Oakland!! Remember Palmer's first "game" as a Raider??

Just ask yourself, at even money - basically no points to give or get - who's the better play here?

Chiefs even.................

Doesn't the Chiefs now have Denvers starting QB in the begginning of the season? This is now Palmers 5th-6th game with the Raiders? If that fact is correct, I like the QB that has more experience with the team in this matchup and that would be Palmer.

Raiders SU win

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Posted: 12/22/2011 11:54:07 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by 808pickyboy:

Doesn't the Chiefs now have Denvers starting QB in the begginning of the season? This is now Palmers 5th-6th game with the Raiders? If that fact is correct, I like the QB that has more experience with the team in this matchup and that would be Palmer.

Raiders SU win

You mean Kyle Orton? The guy who just went 23/31 for 300 yards no picks and a QB rating of 100.9 against the Green Bay Packers in his first start as a Chief?

That QB?

You mean the QB who's seen the Raiders twice a year for the past three years starting in Denver, so maybe he's seen a little game tape on the Raiders already and maybe knows what to expect?

That QB??

You mean the QB who's possibly fighting for a starting job in K.C., and maybe wants to show what he's made of?

Is that who we're talking about?? 

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Posted: 12/22/2011 12:03:19 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vue21849:

    I'm sorry Quad- I don't see it happening. Last time I looked the Raiders were ahead of the Chiefs in the standings. Inspite, of their sloppy, penalty filled play, Oakland is only a game behind Denver, in a series they both split. As I'm seeing it, a Broncos loss and a "must win" here, and the Raiders are back in the thick of it.

OAKLAND  + 1

If the game was in Oakland, I'd probably be on your side, but this is Arrowhead!!!!

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Posted: 12/22/2011 8:31:07 PM
I am going to side with the Black and Silver.  I believe the Raiders have Kyle Orton's number, wasn't he the starter both times last year when the Raiders went undefeated in the AFC west.........but didn't make the playoffs.............
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Posted: 12/23/2011 11:30:07 AM

Yes quad that Kyle Orton who hasn't put two quality back to back performances together in his entire career....THAT Kyle Orton.

 

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Posted: 12/23/2011 4:38:42 PM
oakland has had several starting w.r out not to mention there r.b last week they returned there w.r as it showed in palmers numbers. k.c. coming off their Super Bowl  win and in a let down spot ...raiders are in a must win and will ...raiders by 10 cheersgl all 
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Posted: 12/23/2011 6:05:36 PM
[Quote: Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah]

With D-Mac out, this Raiders offense is just too easy to shut down. No way they waltz into Arrowhead with the playoffs still on the line for the Chiefs, and come away with a "W". Chiefs seem to be having that late resurgence - like the Chargers always do, while the Raiders are still the Raiders.

I thought about the "letdown" factor after the win over the Packers, but this is division rival Oakland, coming into Arrowhead, with the winner moving on and the loser going home, and, they already shut the Raiders out 28-0 in Oakland!! Remember Palmer's first "game" as a Raider??

Just ask yourself, at even money - basically no points to give or get - who's the better play here?

Chiefs even.................

 

nicely put but... palmer came off the bench unexpected and pushed into the 2nd half..he was stiff and not practiced,  thus losing that game.it was ugly.them losing to the packers,(OF COURSE)..but i believe palmer and bush can beat the chiefs at there field.im seeing a high scoring game and raiders winning too

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Posted: 12/23/2011 7:29:16 PM
oakland
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Posted: 12/23/2011 7:52:30 PM
This is a Chiefs Defense that beat Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers and almost beat Rothlisberger at Arrowhead this year. The Chiefs absolutely HATE the Raiders, are now playing for a coach they respect and want to play hard for and if you think Orton is a downgrade from Palko you haven't been watching football. Chiefs will play like they did last week against the Packers but the offense will have a much easier time scoring.You get a very solid D, a crazy home crowd, an improved offense and only give up -1. Chiefs all the way!!!
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Posted: 12/24/2011 3:04:37 AM
Raiders to the over. I see this matchup very similar to a baseball game. Comes down to the starting pitching and in this matchup we have Palmer vs. Ortan. Who's the better pitcher? simple enough to decide IMO. They have to WIN and also weeks 17 matchup with the Chargers needs to be compelling for us west coast viewers. ALWAYS consider who the next weeks opponent is when coming down the stretch run ya'll.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 3:57:21 AM
Chiefs -1  

Good luck 
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Posted: 12/24/2011 4:23:53 AM
chiefs -2.5
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Posted: 12/24/2011 4:43:31 AM
Oak town son!
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Posted: 12/24/2011 4:44:05 AM
kc -1 
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Posted: 12/24/2011 5:09:35 AM
PALMER IS GOING TO HAVE SUCH A BAD GAME @ ARROWHEAD...YOU WILL ALL SEE REMEMBER ME SAYING THIS AFTER SEEING HIS STATS AFTER THE GAME.


KYLE ORTON-1
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Posted: 12/24/2011 7:24:02 AM
Chiefs...no doubt...they will be up for this game equally as much as the Raiders...who are banged up no less...Crennel wants to be a HC again, and Orton will be just fine, watch...Chiefs, in the "Head" by more than a few GLTA
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Posted: 12/24/2011 7:58:14 AM
CHIEFS -1
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Posted: 12/24/2011 8:57:31 AM
KC has to feel confident after the big upset last week.  If they could contain Rodgers then I dont see any reason to believe they cant contain Palmer. 

KC -1.

Under 42.

KC 20 - Oak 16
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Posted: 12/24/2011 9:03:25 AM
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Posted: 12/24/2011 9:06:18 AM
Does anyone like the over?
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Posted: 12/24/2011 9:23:57 AM

I agree with both TheQuadYeah AND Vue21849 dissenting thought processes.  The Chiefs have a bunch of playmakers that didn't get the opportunity to showcase their talents during that horrible experiment called Tyler Palko that got Haley fired.  The Chiefs have always been solid on the defensive side of the ball AND the whole team looked inspired to play for the new interim Coach.  On the other hand, Oakland has been on a slide and Carson Palmer will be without the services AGAIN of two game changers (Ford and McFadden).

In the manner which the Chiefs handled the Undefeated Super Bowl champs last week, this line should be at least 5; but it is in my humble opinion, the Wise Men in Vegas are trying to get the public to over think this one.  Not fooling me Ladies and Gentlemen!  Put me down for
Kansas City with a real QB under center, minus the minuscule chalk please.  And as two of my favorite Covers prognosticators would say, LARGE.  Thanks! 

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