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Stockdale	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Prospect Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 140 Location: Australia	#101 Posted: 7/4/2011 10:46:56 PM Yeah its a pity those dodgy Europeans allow "pacemakers" in races. It really doesnt allow SYT to show his true best. This win in his 2nd WS Cos Plate shows how brilliant and powerful he can be. The CHAMPION mare More Joyous gets absolutely crushed by the powerful SYT when he goes up and just pours the pressure on. I really hope he goes to either the Breeders Cup or Cox Plate. I would hate the "team riding" in Europe to be the reason he gets beat.......again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA59q1LUfRA Send shivers up the spine everytime i see him break More Joyous and race away on the bend. Looks very Sunline esc
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GDayMate	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1392 Location: Australia	#102 Posted: 7/6/2011 10:22:53 PM Gotta love the Cox Plate........I've seen many a good race but was there ever anything better than Bonecrusher's Cox Plate?
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Aussie Battler	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 27460 Location: Australia	#103 Posted: 7/8/2011 10:02:45 AM
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Stockdale	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Prospect Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 140 Location: Australia	#104 Posted: 7/8/2011 10:54:29 AM A little before my time unfortunately GDay Mate but replays are still brilliant to watch ;) Sunline's demolishing in her 2 Cox Plates was one of the best i have seen. Add to that when she got beat by Northerly in her last was one of my least favourite :( Any other Aus/NZers remember this race? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-7Kw-1ipzA Sunline Vs Fairy King Prawn in the Hong Kong Mile, still remember exactly where i was when i heard the call. Really hope Black Caviar can go over and take a G1 in hong kong also
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rod_steel	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Legend Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 87423 Location: United States	#105 Posted: 8/13/2011 1:52:47 AM Black Caviar
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Stockdale	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Prospect Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 140 Location: Australia	#106 Posted: 10/6/2011 3:03:35 AM The Queen of the Turf returns to racing this Saturday in the G2 Schillachi Stakes (1000m) at Caulfield. You can get odds as big as $1.08 with some bookies!! Karuta Queen is a speedy filly who gets in with the postage stamp weight of 51kg, but in reality they are all battling for 2nd because so long as she goes as good as she did in her trial last month she will make it 14 straight wins without a loss. Zenyatta's record in jeopardy??
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Stockdale	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Prospect Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 140 Location: Australia	#107 Posted: 10/7/2011 10:47:38 PM .....14 straight. Just a barrier trial for her basically bolting it in by around 4 lengths without being let go.
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Stockdale	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Prospect Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 140 Location: Australia	#108 Posted: 10/7/2011 10:51:52 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by outsmart smarty: Big Drama will welcome her in dubai for a 6 furlong drag race(no turns) if she dares [Quote: Originally Posted by atlasshrugged] has she ever run on dirt? has she gone 6F or 7F on dirt against boys? if not Big Drama would likely toss her aside especially with the form he is in right now. [Quote: Originally Posted by HolyBull] Stockdale, There's no denying she is visual impressive and the record speaks for itself. I guess she 's in the conversation for best sprinter in the world, but she'd probably be 10-1 or better if she ever raced against the best American sprinters on dirt. Unfortunately we will never know. Keep us posted on her progress. Sorry guys just being a bit cheeky ;)
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Stockdale	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Prospect Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 140 Location: Australia	#109 Posted: 10/7/2011 10:52:58 PM Yeah....That didnt work lol
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Aussie Battler	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 27460 Location: Australia	#110 Posted: 10/7/2011 11:45:13 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Stockdale: .....14 straight. Just a barrier trial for her basically bolting it in by around 4 lengths without being let go. Absolute barrier trial. She jogged past them. They'll have to stretch her out to 1400m because a) there's not much money here for sprinters, and b) there is no sprinter here that can get anywhere near her.
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Stockdale	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: Pinnacle Sports \|
Prospect Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 140 Location: Australia	#111 Posted: 10/8/2011 1:39:57 AM There is no sprinter anywhere that can get near her. Also she isn't a charity case, if they cant get near her over the sprints she isn't going to step up in distance to make it easier for her rivals
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Aussie Battler	View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 27460 Location: Australia	#112 Posted: 10/8/2011 4:09:30 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Stockdale: There is no sprinter anywhere that can get near her. Also she isn't a charity case, if they cant get near her over the sprints she isn't going to step up in distance to make it easier for her rivals Moody and the owners have both said they'd like to step her out. Charity case? Mate, they want to maximise her earnings potential.
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Prospect Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2 Location:	#113 Posted: 10/8/2011 4:37:06 AM I see, my friend knows about it... he watched more on Australian Racing
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Legend Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 30685 Location: United States	#114 Posted: 10/8/2011 10:16:42 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Stockdale: There is no sprinter anywhere that can get near her. Frankel would absolutely annihilate Black Caviar if they ran against each other over a sprint distance
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HolyBull	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 5818 Location: Massachusetts	#115 Posted: 10/10/2011 10:48:56 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by Stockdale: Originally Posted by atlasshrugged] has she ever run on dirt? has she gone 6F or 7F on dirt against boys? if not Big Drama would likely toss her aside especially with the form he is in right now. Originally Posted by HolyBull] Stockdale, There's no denying she is visual impressive and the record speaks for itself. I guess she 's in the conversation for best sprinter in the world, but she'd probably be 10-1 or better if she ever raced against the best American sprinters on dirt. Unfortunately we will never know. Keep us posted on her progress. Sorry guys just being a bit cheeky ;) Stockdale I don't understand why you are quoting me here. Do you disagree with the statement that she would be 10-1 or more on dirt against the best sprinters in the U.S.?
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GDayMate	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1392 Location: Australia	#116 Posted: 10/10/2011 7:52:59 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by Ace77: Frankel would absolutely annihilate Black Caviar if they ran against each other over a sprint distance Frankel has never raced at shorter than 1400 metres (7 furlongs). Black Caviar has never raced beyond 1200 metres - 10 wins at 1200 metres & 4 wins at 1000 metres. At least up to 1200 metres my money would be on Black Caviar.
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Ace77	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 30685 Location: United States	#117 Posted: 10/11/2011 1:41:41 AM lmao Black Caviar wouldn't be 10/1 or higher if she ran in America on dirt against there sprinters,she would be a very short priced favourite,doesn't matter that she hasn't ran on dirt she would still be fav.
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Legend Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 30685 Location: United States	#118 Posted: 10/11/2011 1:49:32 AM That washed up Aussie horse Scenic Blast ran 2nd in a grade 1 sprint over there this year on his first try on dirt and he was one of the favs for the race,if Scenic Blast starts one of the favs for a grade 1 dirt sprint over there then Black Caviar would be a very short priced fav. Scenic Blast was washed up and useless by then also 10/1
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Legend Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 30685 Location: United States	#119 Posted: 10/11/2011 1:57:37 AM Smiling Tiger is the horse that beat Scenic Blast in that race im talking about above and Smiing Tiger ran a close up 3rd in the Breeders Cup Sprint last year behind Big Drama. If a washed up old Aussie horse like Scenic Blast has form around some of Americas best then Black Caviar would simply destroy them 10/1
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Ace77	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 30685 Location: United States	#120 Posted: 10/11/2011 1:59:54 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by GDayMate: Frankel has never raced at shorter than 1400 metres (7 furlongs). Black Caviar has never raced beyond 1200 metres - 10 wins at 1200 metres & 4 wins at 1000 metres. At least up to 1200 metres my money would be on Black Caviar.
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Ace77	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 30685 Location: United States	#121 Posted: 10/11/2011 2:10:34 AM Scenic Blast beat home Cost of Freedom in that race also and Cost of Freedom was beaten less then a length in the 2009 Breeders Cup Sprint(he was actually only caught at the wire) Seriously a old Aussie donkey with form lines around horses who have ran so close up in the Breeders Cup Sprint,Black Caviar would friggin destroy Big Drama and those other American donkeys.
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Ace77	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 30685 Location: United States	#122 Posted: 10/11/2011 2:26:04 AM Big Drama
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Ace77	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Legend Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 30685 Location: United States	#123 Posted: 10/11/2011 2:44:59 AM http://youtu.be/NOYvtVRTFdE Old injured hack Scenic Blast running 2nd to Smiling Tiger LMAO Black Caviar would kill those donkeys and Big Drama
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HolyBull	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 5818 Location: Massachusetts	#124 Posted: 10/11/2011 8:31:09 AM The conversation and posting went to mush just like that. Congrats on ruining a perfectly good thread about some outstanding thoroughbreds. End of this discussion for me. Before I go though, what's Black Caviar's record on dirt?
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GDayMate	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1392 Location: Australia	#125 Posted: 10/11/2011 3:58:11 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by HolyBull: The conversation and posting went to mush just like that. Congrats on ruining a perfectly good thread about some outstanding thoroughbreds. End of this discussion for me. Before I go though, what's Black Caviar's record on dirt? She's never raced on dirt. Virtually all our tracks are grass and all her races have been on grass. Even if she couldn't go a yard on dirt IMO it doesn't detract from the fact that she is one hell of a racehorse. She has certainly won the Aussie crowds. People arrive at the track early to get a glimpse of her or a photo taken. People turn out done up in her colours ie salmon with black spots. Makybe Diva won 3 Melbourne Cups & Kingston Town won 3 Cox Plates but Black Caviar leaves them for dead as far as winning over the crowd. People who have never had an interest in racing or a bet in their lives are following this horse.
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