Chavez Jr - Martinez September 2012

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Posted: 4/25/2012 10:58:44 PM
Finally this fraud will be exposed as martinez puts this guy to his biggest test yet. He'll finally be in the ring with a known named fighter who is not at a complete disadvantage as were his previous hand picked opponents. I feel martinez will win this fight decisively proving to the world that chavez is not as a skilled a fighter as may be percieved.
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Posted: 4/27/2012 3:05:15 AM
Fight wont happen.  Just b/c Sergio signed...means nothing.  Takes 2 sigs.
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Posted: 4/27/2012 11:35:58 AM
chavez wont sign until he wins his upcoming match, which he most likely will. I mean he cant duck this guy forever.
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Posted: 4/28/2012 2:02:26 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by rzagza:

Fight wont happen.  Just b/c Sergio signed...means nothing.  Takes 2 sigs.

 I have a feeling it won't happen, just like you know who, Bob doesn't want to lose his cash cow, he probably moves up to 168, he has been struggling to make weight and Manny Stewart has said that he thought JCC was over 160 for his last fights, so he will look out for his fighter (the same way Nasim does for BHop).

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Posted: 5/12/2012 9:54:01 PM
just released that they both have agreed to the fight. All chavez has to do is beat his next opponent
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Posted: 5/12/2012 9:59:47 PM
This will not be pretty
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Posted: 5/12/2012 10:59:19 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd2010:

 I have a feeling it won't happen, just like you know who, Bob doesn't want to lose his cash cow, he probably moves up to 168, he has been struggling to make weight and Manny Stewart has said that he thought JCC was over 160 for his last fights, so he will look out for his fighter (the same way Nasim does for BHop).



JCC is a drug cheat and a terrible fighter.  JCC @ 168?  LMAO, my god, he would get embarrassed. 
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Posted: 5/12/2012 11:05:55 PM
He should dump Ariza also
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Posted: 5/12/2012 11:16:39 PM
But we cannot forget that his father won the his first world title as the biggest underdog of his career in LA....and the fighter's name, was Martinez.....


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Posted: 5/14/2012 1:05:42 PM

Chavez  has great offensive technique. And what he lacks in defense he makes up for in chin, heart, and balls. If Jr had better hand and foot speed he'd be a lb-4-lber. But of course Martinez' footspeed and counter-punhing will be Chavez' cryptonite.

Chavez Jr's great chin will only cause him to recieve unnecceary punishment vs Martinez. Jr might not ever be the same if he takes an extended beating from Martinez. Paul Williams can attest to that.

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Posted: 5/14/2012 11:29:23 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

Chavez  has great offensive technique. And what he lacks in defense he makes up for in chin, heart, and balls. If Jr had better hand and foot speed he'd be a lb-4-lber. But of course Martinez' footspeed and counter-punhing will be Chavez' cryptonite.

Chavez Jr's great chin will only cause him to recieve unnecceary punishment vs Martinez. Jr might not ever be the same if he takes an extended beating from Martinez. Paul Williams can attest to that.


Is this some sick joke?
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Posted: 5/15/2012 12:22:41 AM
fight cancelled,Chavez is a box
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Posted: 5/15/2012 12:25:11 AM
He's still to GREEN


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Posted: 5/15/2012 12:32:57 AM

Jerseyboy youv'e already shown you don't know boxing. Yes I said Chavez JR has excellent offensive technique. But he's slow. Some things you can't recognize unless you've been in the ring.

JR's continued liver attack made Rubio not want to move his right elbow. Have you ever been in the ring with someone who walks through punches and has a dedicated liver attack? If you've boxed then you understand the importance of chin, heart, and balls. JR's got em all.

JR is still improving his game and he looked pretty golden against Manfredo in Houston. He properly used his height and reach, showed intelligent footwork, worked the jab which he sometimes turned into a lead hook, and even showed good counter-punching skills.

JR has good technique but at the end of the day, the disparity in handspeed will be the difference vs Martinez. Martinez has the intelligence and balls to punch inside your punches when he sees the oppurtunities.

Human beings can only take so much punishment to the brain before they start showing signs of damage. The first and most obvious sign is slower reflexes. Neither Castillo nor Corrales was ever the same after their war. Cotto seems a tad slower after the Margarito's plastered hands beatdown. Margarito is even slower now than he was before the Mosley beatdown. JR takes shots in every fight. He's in his physical prime and hasn't been given an extended beatdown yet but Martinez might be the one to give it to him.

Boxing is a brutal sport. Brain damage is a part of the game.

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Posted: 5/15/2012 12:37:54 AM
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Posted: 5/15/2012 1:07:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

Jerseyboy youv'e already shown you don't know boxing. Yes I said Chavez JR has excellent offensive technique. But he's slow. Some things you can't recognize unless you've been in the ring.

JR's continued liver attack made Rubio not want to move his right elbow. Have you ever been in the ring with someone who walks through punches and has a dedicated liver attack? If you've boxed then you understand the importance of chin, heart, and balls. JR's got em all.

JR is still improving his game and he looked pretty golden against Manfredo in Houston. He properly used his height and reach, showed intelligent footwork, worked the jab which he sometimes turned into a lead hook, and even showed good counter-punching skills.

JR has good technique but at the end of the day, the disparity in handspeed will be the difference vs Martinez. Martinez has the intelligence and balls to punch inside your punches when he sees the oppurtunities.

Human beings can only take so much punishment to the brain before they start showing signs of damage. The first and most obvious sign is slower reflexes. Neither Castillo nor Corrales was ever the same after their war. Cotto seems a tad slower after the Margarito's plastered hands beatdown. Margarito is even slower now than he was before the Mosley beatdown. JR takes shots in every fight. He's in his physical prime and hasn't been given an extended beatdown yet but Martinez might be the one to give it to him.

Boxing is a brutal sport. Brain damage is a part of the game.


My god, Chavez JR is a straight up BUM who is on PED's and uses his 20 lb weight advantage on slow bums.  He's fought NO ONE.  He gets beat up every fight against BUMS.  he has no defnese, no headmovement, NO SKILLS AT ALL.  

His boxing is a complete joke and it's  a mockery to the sport when he tries to move around the ring and jab.  
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Posted: 6/17/2012 10:35:11 AM
I hope to goodness martinez knocks this kid out. JCC I will admit looked good in this fight, but martinez will not be dumb enough to fight against the ropes like lee, he also wont fade, and im pretty confident his punches carry more power than lee's. Martinez will keep moving and find the perfect opportunity as he has done in his last few fights to knock out his opponent.
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