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Posted: 12/21/2011 3:48:04 PM
...is going to jail.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been sentenced to three months in jail after pleading guilty Wednesday to a charge of misdemeanor battery domestic violence and no contest on two counts of harassment.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7376829/floyd-mayweather-jr-sentenced-90-days-jail-domestic-violence-plea

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Posted: 12/21/2011 4:19:45 PM
so what does this mean fight wise?
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Posted: 12/21/2011 4:23:05 PM
Well, it definitely means May 5 won't be happening.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 7:06:56 PM
LOL, and he promise he fight a true worthy opponent on MAY 5, guess that fight probably going to be with the legal system.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 7:55:27 PM
Anyone who thought that they didn't know what he was facing (sentence wise) is getting jerked. Floyd with all his money and attorneys knows before he enters the court the 90% probability outcome, and it may vary occasionally the other 10% but not drastically. He knew the the court dates and the penalty prior to the judge stating it. It is one more reason to delay the Manny fight just a little longer as he times his opponents declines (or when they are overrated, or etc...) with precision. He has the money and status to take the risks if he is wrong and cancel or void the fight unlike 99% of the other fighters. Ortiz knew he would lose to Mayweather, but he couldn't afford to give up $2.5 million (Floyd got the opponents and $25 Million and large PPV revenues).
   Also, when have you seen the champion (Ortiz) get less than 10% base purse (not including PPV revenues) in a big fight???
Another thing... Floyd offered Victor $2.5 Million wager on the outcome, and naturally Ortiz declined. Actually a brilliant move by Floyd because Ortiz was receiving a giant sum of money in relativity to what he is use to getting. Risking your entire purse puts immense pressure because after losing he would have no consolation. Myself, coming from a boxing and poker background, it is no different than a player (who doesn't borrow, get stakes, partners, etc...) have all his net worth on the table in a NL game. Very rarely (even though it would work effectively) a player will be involved with big pots without a big hand, and rarely make All-In bluffs with his Net Worth!!! Only a handful of players (among top pros do that) sit down with everything, yet alone risk it in a chance hand.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 10:50:03 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ZOUK:

Anyone who thought that they didn't know what he was facing (sentence wise) is getting jerked. Floyd with all his money and attorneys knows before he enters the court the 90% probability outcome, and it may vary occasionally the other 10% but not drastically. He knew the the court dates and the penalty prior to the judge stating it. It is one more reason to delay the Manny fight just a little longer as he times his opponents declines (or when they are overrated, or etc...) with precision. He has the money and status to take the risks if he is wrong and cancel or void the fight unlike 99% of the other fighters. Ortiz knew he would lose to Mayweather, but he couldn't afford to give up $2.5 million (Floyd got the opponents and $25 Million and large PPV revenues).
   Also, when have you seen the champion (Ortiz) get less than 10% base purse (not including PPV revenues) in a big fight???
Another thing... Floyd offered Victor $2.5 Million wager on the outcome, and naturally Ortiz declined. Actually a brilliant move by Floyd because Ortiz was receiving a giant sum of money in relativity to what he is use to getting. Risking your entire purse puts immense pressure because after losing he would have no consolation. Myself, coming from a boxing and poker background, it is no different than a player (who doesn't borrow, get stakes, partners, etc...) have all his net worth on the table in a NL game. Very rarely (even though it would work effectively) a player will be involved with big pots without a big hand, and rarely make All-In bluffs with his Net Worth!!! Only a handful of players (among top pros do that) sit down with everything, yet alone risk it in a chance hand.

Wait, did you just say Mayweather went to jail to delay a Pacquiao fight?  
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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:56:31 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


Wait, did you just say Mayweather went to jail to delay a Pacquiao fight?  

He said that and then some...

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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:57:28 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


Wait, did you just say Mayweather went to jail to delay a Pacquiao fight?  
now that would be truly ducking a fight - perish the thought
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Posted: 12/22/2011 12:11:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BigPapa21:

He said that and then some...


dude is a loon.  needs some help def meds.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 7:09:21 PM
In all going to jail will be the best thing for floyd, I have been their for a 6 month streach a few years back and I can honestly say that it might of been one of the best things to happen to me,  It allows you to really put your life into perspective and really focus in on what you want out of it,  I strongly feel that floyd will come out of jail with a new and fresh perspective on things, I also like the fact that he will be away for all the jack offs and yes men that he surrounds himself with, in jail, their will be lots of time for pushups, sit ups and shadowboxing,floyd is a gym rat weather fighting or not, so you can bet he will put in even more work in his cell, I think we will see a new hunger from him when he gets out, like when he was at 130, at that time he was a very hungry fighter, jail will bring him back to his roots,(bring him back to who he once was, as opposed to what he has become, as the money has clearly change him) he got sentenced to 3 months so he will serve around 2,  I also assume that he will be put in solitary as well, so the time will be much slower for him there and in the end I think that's a good thing, at least for boxing fans, when he gets out, I see manny, sergio, both within a 1 year span.  both wins too
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Posted: 12/22/2011 11:18:34 PM
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In all going to jail will be the best thing for floyd, I have been their for a 6 month streach a few years back and I can honestly say that it might of been one of the best things to happen to me,  It allows you to really put your life into perspective and really focus in on what you want out of it,  I strongly feel that floyd will come out of jail with a new and fresh perspective on things, I also like the fact that he will be away for all the jack offs and yes men that he surrounds himself with, in jail, their will be lots of time for pushups, sit ups and shadowboxing,floyd is a gym rat weather fighting or not, so you can bet he will put in even more work in his cell, I think we will see a new hunger from him when he gets out, like when he was at 130, at that time he was a very hungry fighter, jail will bring him back to his roots,(bring him back to who he once was, as opposed to what he has become, as the money has clearly change him) he got sentenced to 3 months so he will serve around 2,  I also assume that he will be put in solitary as well, so the time will be much slower for him there and in the end I think that's a good thing, at least for boxing fans, when he gets out, I see manny, sergio, both within a 1 year span.  both wins too

Hope you're right, boxing really needs him to fight the fights that everyone wants to see, instead of snoozers and Floyd thinking he was the greatest boxing god ever created.

Has any fighter been successful after prison? Mike Tyson's career was over after prison (I know 3 years is different), Riddick Bowe (it was over anyways), Ron Lyle was close to greatness, Floyd could go either way because he is in his mid 30's and relies on speed to win.

 

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Posted: 12/23/2011 12:01:40 AM
floyd relies on technical skill, as much as speed and that is why if he chooses to fight on into his late 30's he will continue to be successful, very similar to guys like archie moore, and hopkins. the difference with archie and bernard though, is that they had a great desire to prove themselves late in their careers, floyd really does not have that, hopefully a couple months in the slammer will give him at least an little more than he has now and as I mentioned I think it will.  at least for a year or so.
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Posted: 12/23/2011 12:12:12 AM
He should just fight Manny, then Sergio and if he beat them both easily, then retire on top. Don't care to see Ortiz or Berto mismatch (not saying Manny isn't a mismatch, but they need to fight regardless)..
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Posted: 12/23/2011 1:14:35 AM
I was misquoted,
"Floyd did not go to jail to duck a fight... he knew he was going to jail so whatever negotiations that were made WOULD BE VOID and he of all people knew this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
Don't re-frame questions and statements.... read and understand!!
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Posted: 12/23/2011 1:21:30 AM
Also, I stated so long ago about Floyd being as dominant nearing 40 and I was mocked... yet finally someone states my point. Mayweather relies on more technique (although athletically gifted) so he doesn't abuse his body and he has naturally gone up slowly in weight class therefore allowing natural maturity. Many do it for money because they have to... Floyd hasn't. At the rate he hand picks opponents, he is in no peril neither will 3 or 4 more years. His anticipation skills will only improve as he goes on, and surprise is the element which allows even slow opponents to appear even faster. Do you really think Hopkins hand speed and power is stronger and faster than his last 20 opponents? Taylor was 150% faster and stronger, but lacked skills (and had physical elements that most are unaware that box... intangibles).
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Posted: 12/23/2011 1:30:00 AM
Example: Days ago someone was talking boxing a mentioned a guy (he said was a very good boxer) from an area I grew up. The first name is all he knew... but I knew every guy for 3 areas in gyms that didn't have that name. I thought and the guy mentioned a bar fight... then it clicked. The guy boxed but sucked in the ring, but in a street fight he was fast and strong but short and people under-estimated him, and all it takes for a pro-boxer (or amateur w/ physical attributes which he was) to knock the average person out. Same goes against the non-ground fighter against a wrestler... it's on the ground in 3 seconds and if you aren't the wrestler, goodnite!
  The guy I spoke to assumed because this guy knocked people out everywhere in bars, etc..he was good at boxing... WRONG. He had no technical skill, just striking (fast and powerful) and physical attributes.
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Posted: 12/23/2011 7:51:06 AM

PBF was real technical knocking Ortiz out.

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Posted: 12/23/2011 7:55:35 AM
He also used his technical skills when he threw the combinations at his woman. His woman was hanging tough then went to hug him and he of course hit her with a very solid left right left. He is quite the fighter and his woman was of course hand picked.
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Posted: 12/23/2011 11:36:10 AM
From what is stated Floyd is a punk, but that doesn't make him white! Did it look like Ortiz was "thank you 4 stopping", or "WTF- lets rematch".... I think we know!
I know you were serious in a light manner about Floyd and his domestic issue..., but that's an issue I don't comment unless it's regarding a new bill or new law that should be imposed.
It took O.J. to wake the world up to domestic issue and how serious it can be. Remember, 99% of our decision or emotional decided on feeling (we think it's rational...LOL), so usually family is the deepest and people lose control easily. I'm against all types of it, the worst besides severe battery or murder is the mental abuse... women and men. It goes on and often more damage in the long run. We say women (men too), are adults and can leave... easy said when you aren't manipulated and feel trapped or fear for your life.
Another forum of greater importance but shinning the light in a dark area in the right way usual helps lead the right way!!!

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Posted: 12/23/2011 12:20:00 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd2010:

Hope you're right, boxing really needs him to fight the fights that everyone wants to see, instead of snoozers and Floyd thinking he was the greatest boxing god ever created.

Has any fighter been successful after prison? Mike Tyson's career was over after prison (I know 3 years is different), Riddick Bowe (it was over anyways), Ron Lyle was close to greatness, Floyd could go either way because he is in his mid 30's and relies on speed to win.

 



1. BHop
2. Dwight Braxton

It's probably a long list.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 2:19:53 AM
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1. BHop
2. Dwight Braxton

It's probably a long list.

Can't believe I forgot about BHop, Floyd just needs to get do the time learn a lesson and give the fans the fights they want, do 3-4 a year, instead of 1, what is so hard about that, he is a gym rat, would it not be better to make money, build a better boxing legacy, not to beat your woman in front of his kids, talk garbage and go to jail? BHop learned his lesson, he probably wouldn't jaywalk.

Fighters need to fight and stay busy other wise they all fall into the same traps, if Tyson would have kept fighting at the pace he did when he first started, he wouldn't have had  much time to mess up because he lived at the gym, after he won the title he stopped fighting as much and he was enjoying the fruits of his success, then it all came crashing down (it was slow only because he was so young), Floyd only has a limited time to make money and get out with his brains still working good.

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Posted: 12/24/2011 2:22:22 AM
B-Hop did prison young. Tyson had no passion before and lost it all after. Mayweather is doing 90days... cmon. That's jail, rehab, a unpleasant vacation. It will have zero negative effect, but maybe mentally give himself a chance to evaluate his life and his future decision. If you know anything basic about the legal system, once you been waiting sentencing that is minor,(especially with Floyd's money and lawyers), he knows well in advance the chances of jail time and the approximate stretch. Even anyone with a public defender knows what they'd be facing after the judicial process before sentencing, yet alone the top lawyers as the deals with the D.A. and the judge in advance has usually made a ruling way ahead of time.
Floyd knew the sentencing date, (anyone can read the penalty charges-lol) so he could have signed to fight Vitali Klitschko as he knew he would have to serve before making any fight NULL and VOID!
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Posted: 12/24/2011 5:47:11 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ZOUK:

B-Hop did prison young. Tyson had no passion before and lost it all after. Mayweather is doing 90days... cmon. That's jail, rehab, a unpleasant vacation. It will have zero negative effect, but maybe mentally give himself a chance to evaluate his life and his future decision. If you know anything basic about the legal system, once you been waiting sentencing that is minor,(especially with Floyd's money and lawyers), he knows well in advance the chances of jail time and the approximate stretch. Even anyone with a public defender knows what they'd be facing after the judicial process before sentencing, yet alone the top lawyers as the deals with the D.A. and the judge in advance has usually made a ruling way ahead of time.

Floyd knew the sentencing date, (anyone can read the penalty charges-lol) so he could have signed to fight Vitali Klitschko as he knew he would have to serve before making any fight NULL and VOID!

FLoyd didn't know garbage

so now FLoyd can read minds...just like he knew Pacquiao would walk away from the fight because of drug tests and now he knew the judge sentencing MONTHS before.  LOL.  Guy you're a serious loon, you need help.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 8:11:38 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:


FLoyd didn't know garbage

so now FLoyd can read minds...just like he knew Pacquiao would walk away from the fight because of drug tests and now he knew the judge sentencing MONTHS before.  LOL.  Guy you're a serious loon, you need help.

Jerseyboy...He is correct that the sentences for most cases are predetermined through their attorneys and the DA office. Then go to the judge on the day of hearing for approval. In my state anyway but I think its pretty basic anywhere. GL

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Posted: 12/24/2011 10:17:30 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BigPapa21:

Jerseyboy...He is correct that the sentences for most cases are predetermined through their attorneys and the DA office. Then go to the judge on the day of hearing for approval. In my state anyway but I think its pretty basic anywhere. GL

what you are saying is true, however, the judge has the final authority. there is a chance that the judge did not like pbf and handed out a harsher sentence. i am not a DA or defense attorney but i would venture to say that more than 10 percent of cases have a sentencing outside the DA recommendation.

pbf is probably going to do less than 45 with good behavior and overcrowding/work furlough and he is going to get tons of special priveleges with the guards in return for future ticket, favors, etc.

 

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