Ward v Froch...Ward -200!!!!!!!!The bet of the Year

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Posted: 6/11/2011 7:03:24 AM

http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/boxing/andre-ward-v-carl-froch/winner

Just put 90% of my roll on Ward -200. Yes it's probably going to decision, but -200 is an absolute gift. Take it..

Not even betting on any other match this year (I'm serious). I will preview the fight closer to it. I also have Ward +1000 pre tourney....

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Posted: 6/11/2011 11:47:09 AM
gl mack...looks good. froch got nothing for ward
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Posted: 6/11/2011 11:51:45 AM
Mack, some would advise you to middle your sweet future play on Ward with some $ on Froch, but as Warren Buffett said "When it's raining gold, reach for a bucket not a thimble"
I'll be on Ward with you if i can get that price. I saw it is already offered at European sites, but I live in Colorado- not sure when my site will offer the fight and hope i can get it somewhere around there.
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Posted: 6/11/2011 3:03:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mack05:

http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/boxing/andre-ward-v-carl-froch/winner

Just put 90% of my roll on Ward -200. Yes it's probably going to decision, but -200 is an absolute gift. Take it..

Not even betting on any other match this year (I'm serious). I will preview the fight closer to it. I also have Ward +1000 pre tourney....

90% of your roll? First of all how? I can't bet more than 4 units if I wanted to with sportsbook limits. If true I don't see how this can be good bankroll management. You underestimated Froch once before when you dropped 33% of your roll on Abraham and he nearly got shut out.

If Froch wins what happens? You never bet again because all of your money is pretty much gone?

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Posted: 6/11/2011 5:09:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by melvin23:

Mack, some would advise you to middle your sweet future play on Ward with some $ on Froch, but as Warren Buffett said "When it's raining gold, reach for a bucket not a thimble"
I'll be on Ward with you if i can get that price. I saw it is already offered at European sites, but I live in Colorado- not sure when my site will offer the fight and hope i can get it somewhere around there.


My thoughts as well. With a +1000 future, unless it was a tiny tiny wager, an add on at -200 is unnecessary. But then again, if you think its a sure thing.....
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Posted: 6/12/2011 1:05:10 AM
I agree Mack.. EASY money..
I would still bet on a decision tho..
Wards a safety first fighter and Froch has a solid chin..
Ward takes the UD clearly. Ward is just too smart, and physically gifted with superior skills to Froch. Throw in Wards inside game is nearly second to none.. Barring a lucky punch, Froch has no chance
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Posted: 6/12/2011 5:45:47 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TheColorPurple:

I agree Mack.. EASY money..
I would still bet on a decision tho..
Wards a safety first fighter and Froch has a solid chin..
Ward takes the UD clearly. Ward is just too smart, and physically gifted with superior skills to Froch. Throw in Wards inside game is nearly second to none.. Barring a lucky punch, Froch has no chance

Colour thats how I see the fight too. Ward's chin has looked dodgy in the past and Froch can bang, but I don't believe Ward has a glass jaw. I think you look at the fighters Froch has had the most problems with in the past. Dirrell and Taylor. Dirrell won that fight in my eyes. I've watched that fight 4 times and I have Dirrell winning 7 rounds to 5 and thats me veing VERY generous to Froch. Jermaine Taylor completely outclassed Froch for 11 rounds. Both these fighters made Froch look very clumsy. Ward is a better fighter then either Dirrell or Taylor. He has two attributes Taylor or Dirrell don't have much of. Mental toughness and stamina.

I remember Floyd Mayweather was -200 against Ricky Hatton. I couldn't believe that. Hatton got way to much respect. Just like Froch is getting now. To be this is a simple fight to cap....

1) Ward is faster

2) Fight is in America

3) Ward is more skilled

4) Inside fighting, mental toughness, stamina are 50/50

The only advantage I give Froch is his chin. You want to give me    -200!!!Yes please. I've hardly bet this year, my patience gets rewarded with this fight..

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Posted: 6/12/2011 11:31:22 AM

-200 is insane I wouldn't bet Froch even if it was in the +500 to +1000 range, Froch just doesn't box well enough to have a real chance, Ward will just box for 12 rounds and not take any real chances to an easy win 118-110 or maybe 117-111, just can't see it any closer.

Mack is right, this is a very similiar match-up as Mayweather-Hatton, same result, boxers almost always beat brawlers or wild fighters.

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Posted: 6/12/2011 5:37:32 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mack05:

I remember Floyd Mayweather was -200 against Ricky Hatton.

Yes that line was a joke. Now how much did you have on Floyd? If less than 90% of your roll. why?

Don't get me wrong I like Ward, I'd say Ward -200 has value but your bankroll management is a bit of a mess. 33% of your roll on Abraham/Froch is a little crazy, 90% of your roll on one fight is stupid unless Pacquiao was fighting my grandmother. Froch is a world class fighter.

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Posted: 6/12/2011 6:25:01 PM

Ok I shouldn't have mentioned anything about Bankrolls. Let's just say I am MASSIVELY confident on Ward. I got my roll in the first place from Mayweather to win and Mayweather to KO Hatton. Both hit..

Anyway that's neither here nor there.Let's focus on the fight not bankrolls. I agree Froch is a world class fighter. BUT styles make fights. He has struggled in the past against slick boxers (Dirrell, Taylor). Added to the fact there is only one mentally tougher fighter then Froch in this tourney and its Ward! Dirrell/Taylor gave the blueprint on how to beat Froch. Expect Ward to have the perfect gameplan for Froch. Ward will be the hometown fighter (fight prob in Vegas) so Froch at some stage will have to come forward as I can see Ward knicking all the cagey early rounds. This will play right into Ward's hands. I expect a 116-112 kind of fight. If Glen Johnson can hit Froch at will with right hands what is Ward going to do?? -200 is a gift here. I'd have Ward -450 to -500

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Posted: 12/13/2011 8:24:27 AM
Looking foward to Saturday!!
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Posted: 12/13/2011 2:10:28 PM
Yeah -200 is amazing, but nothing like that available now. I have -278.
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Posted: 12/13/2011 7:23:00 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

90% of your roll? First of all how? I can't bet more than 4 units if I wanted to with sportsbook limits. If true I don't see how this can be good bankroll management. You underestimated Froch once before when you dropped 33% of your roll on Abraham and he nearly got shut out.

If Froch wins what happens? You never bet again because all of your money is pretty much gone?

agreed. im all over ward but you never, ever bet your bankroll on one play. this is long-term investing where over time a good handicapper plays the odds into his favor and will consistently win year-over-year. ward has shown a suspect chin against lesser competition in his earlier years.

unless something advese comes up regarding ward, i have him as 15-unit play for me.

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Posted: 12/13/2011 8:06:49 PM
Yea 90% of your bankroll is foolish unless youre 1 and done.. But longevity wise you never should bet more than 5 units on one play but Im sure you know that lol, you just dont have discipline I guess..
What if Wards cut opens back up by a punch and they stop the fight via tko to Froch?

I like Ward by decision tho. Good Luck Mack, Im with you on this one
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Posted: 12/16/2011 3:22:44 PM
Ward decision -180  Hmm.. Not bad.. kinda on the high side tho..
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Posted: 12/17/2011 5:39:33 AM
thats why i took the -200 when it came out. I knew that price would not last long..
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Posted: 12/17/2011 1:41:06 PM
Good Luck Mack.. Im on Ward decision -180
I dont see Ward KOing Froch, he has too much pride.. He'll go into survival mode first.. At least I hope.. Froch was getting hit A LOT by Glen Johnsons right hand, I see Ward doin the same thing all night.. Pretty much pot shotting and clinching on some Mayweather sh!t
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Posted: 12/17/2011 5:02:17 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by TheColorPurple:

Good Luck Mack.. Im on Ward decision -180
I dont see Ward KOing Froch, he has too much pride.. He'll go into survival mode first.. At least I hope.. Froch was getting hit A LOT by Glen Johnsons right hand, I see Ward doin the same thing all night.. Pretty much pot shotting and clinching on some Mayweather sh!t


I think Ward announces himself as boxings next star tonight. I think he gives Froch a beatdown for 10 rounds and the ref stops it between 10-12...

My plays

Pre tourney Ward +1000 (posted on covers)..
Ward -200 (literally the kitchen sink)
Ward +1800 to win between 10-12
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Posted: 12/17/2011 6:30:36 PM
Sorry i like froch in this won . Froch should handle wards speed and can't get hurt by him. Froch will keep coming at ward all night firing big punches. I think froch gets the decision.
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Posted: 12/17/2011 6:36:36 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by Mack05:



I think Ward announces himself as boxings next star tonight. I think he gives Froch a beatdown for 10 rounds and the ref stops it between 10-12...

I don't have a strong opinion on this fight, but if this scenario plays out I'll be stunned.  Ward has never stopped a quality opponenet, and I don't see Froch being the first.

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Posted: 12/17/2011 7:36:21 PM
Danno I see Froch eating right hands all night long. I think this will be one sided beat down and the ref stops it late. AA, Green they came to survive not win. Froch won't quit and this will be his undoing. I see him taking ALOT pf punishment. Its either a Ward landslide or a Ward stoppage. I think he gets it dine tonight in style..
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Posted: 12/17/2011 7:54:35 PM
These links seem to work for all fights..

http://www.sportlemon.tv
http://www.firstrowsports.tv
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Posted: 12/17/2011 9:53:36 PM
Ward looks a level above...
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Posted: 12/17/2011 10:16:49 PM
no sweating for u today mack, nice analysis 
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Posted: 12/17/2011 10:24:59 PM
  happy Christmas guys....no plays from me for awhile..Some turkey with family and then beach time in the new year..stressful night is over
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