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#176 Posted: 4/10/2011 4:58:56 PM 
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#178 Posted: 4/10/2011 7:40:43 PM 
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#179 Posted: 4/10/2011 7:42:52 PM |
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#180 Posted: 4/10/2011 9:12:37 PM Another Masters not won by Tiger.
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#181 Posted: 4/10/2011 9:40:53 PM vegasveteran, although the thread is a impressive prediction/statement so far, you realise you got about 30 years to go until you are proven correct?
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#182 Posted: 4/10/2011 9:46:13 PM So Tiger will win a major when he's 65???
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#183 Posted: 5/3/2011 3:28:23 AM What looked like a dead cinch, Tiger will NOT beat Jack's record of 18 professional majors.
This makes me very happy since I grew up playing golf from the age of five, and the Golden Bear was my golf hero. Yea, I know he has a "squeaky voice", but crap.....what a player! Throw in great family man and business man, and I can't decide if I would like to live his life or Bruce Springsteens.
Woods is trying to win 4 or 5 more Majors at the age of 35. He is just a good player....not outstanding when I saw him "lap" the field at Pebble Beach in 2000, and go on to collect ALL FOUR MAJOR trophys. Wow. But, he aint that guy anymore.
Moreover, the young talent coming up is fantastic.....crap again....there are already here! AND, they do not fear him like they use to out there.
Honestly, I love to watch Woods hit great shots, be in contention, and stalk the course.......he is still the most exciting player!
But, he is a guy that will finish in the top ten.....and to win FIVE more big ones is not in the cards....that is really hard to believe.
Of course it can happen.....my sweet mother-in-law "wood" vehemently disagree with me.
Jack stood the test of time.....6 Masters 5 PGA's 4 US Open's 3 British Open's (2 US Amatuers)
Oh, and eight Senior majors on a very limited schedule.
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#184 Posted: 5/7/2011 11:15:46 AM
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#185 Posted: 5/11/2011 6:34:05 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by crowndaking:
Tiger will dwarf Jack's 18
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#186 Posted: 5/12/2011 11:12:48 AM
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#187 Posted: 6/17/2011 5:15:07 AM
Vegas Veteran is looking like a F---ing genius now.
The haunting question is how much of Tiger's brilliance in his golf career was directly attributable to his juicing from that Canadian doctor? Aren't his victories and career accomplishments tarnished now?
Sort of like McGuire, Sosa, and Bonds et al. hitting mammoth homeruns those years whilst playing with steroids racing through their veins. It seems all pervasive now in all sports. So much money at stake and so many desperate athletes.
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#188 Posted: 6/17/2011 9:33:40 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:
He is a shell of his former self.
I don't know if it is age, performance enhancement drugs, or family problems. But he is nowhere close to what we have seen before.
He reminds me of Mike Tyson after the loss to Buster Douglas. Thought he could regain the dominance but never did.
1st hole today. All 3 guys hit iron off the tee. Tiger was the furthest back. That is not the Tiger of old.
He can talk and justify all he wants. Jack's major record is safe. Tiger will be lucky to win 1 more major.
Tiger will break the record. |
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#189 Posted: 6/17/2011 2:21:23 PM
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#190 Posted: 6/17/2011 3:32:57 PM
(2) But the even more destructive comparison between these 2 exists:
In his career Jack suffered 3 dry spells after he'd won his 1st title (I'll note here that Jack's biggest dry-spell within any of his winning sequences was 6 Majors, once)....
won 7 Majors
12 Majors played with no win
won 7 Majors
10 Majors played with no win
won 3 Majors
20 Majors played with no win
won 1 Major
...so after he had a dry spell top 9-played-without-a-win for the 3rd time, Jack was beyond good enough to 'fluke' more than 1 Major win.
Now for Tiger Woods' career arc since winning his 1st title (I'll note Tiger's biggest dry-spell within any of his winning sequences was 3 Majors, twice)....
won 1 Major
10 Majors played with no win
won 7 Majors
10 Majors played with no win
won 6 Majors
9 Majors played since his last win
So Tiger's already onto his 3rd 9-Major dry spell... While some will observe Jack's 3rd dry spell took place at an age 4 years older than Tiger is currently, surely (as already mentioned) the balancing act to that fact is the level of competition Tiger faces.
(3) Another factor to think about re: Tiger & Jack...
Jack never won more than 3 Majors over any 6 consecutive Majors he played in, and only ever won consecutive Majors once.
Tiger has once won 5 of 6 consecutive Majors he's played in, and has 5 instances of winning consecutive Majors he's played in.
In short, Tiger has as many titles as he does now simply because when he's been hot, he's piled it on. Nothing in golfing history points to any player going 'berserk' over a condensed group of Majors when they're at or beyond Tiger's current age (which goes back to the (1)st stat I posted). And since Tiger hasn't shown any ability to win consistently outside of winning in chunks, it's just another reason why Jack's record is safe. |
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#191 Posted: 6/17/2011 6:04:04 PM guy in bottom 25% of the tour. He plays like that guy Marc Turnesia. |
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#192 Posted: 6/17/2011 7:45:07 PM
Also Nicklaus competed against Palmer, Player, Watson, Trevino, Miller. All of those guys were fierce competitors.
Who has Woods competed against? Oh yeah, Mickelson, Els, Singh, Couples, Furyk, Garcia et. al. I will let everyone draw their own conclusions.
I saw both sets of competitors and the Nicklaus set would never lay down and spread them for anyone including Nicklaus. Mickelson is probably Woods' fiercest competitor and lets face it, he leaves a lot to be desired.
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#193 Posted: 6/17/2011 8:41:12 PM
how true. Phil is not much of a player. The guy just does not stand up. |
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#194 Posted: 6/18/2011 2:46:41 AM
It is truely a game... Tiger will bounce back, but only if HE chooses too...
I dont care how good of a guy he was, Jack was still motivated by money when he played, he wanted to win but he also needed to win consistently into his later years to maintain his lifestyle... In that times there were no sponsers out there to hand Jack endorsements, his prize money was also his mortgage payment, his seed money for his golf course design business, and his wifes grocery money...
Tiger has enough money to live of for the rest of his life, he worked so hard to get where he is, and he has truely reaped the rewards of his hard work... In his life he has made almost 1 billion playing golf...
His only motivation is to beat jacks record, as you get older, chasing that dream must become more and more hollow and feel self centered.... He is not a kid with a jack nicklaus timeline on his wall... He is a man, a failed man in many ways...
Golf is such a game that you need more than selfish pride to motivate you... Maybe Tiger will find it, but until he finds something that will motivate him to play he will not win another major... It could a reattempt at a family, Elin may come back, he may find some solace in charity, but until it comes he will only win majors because of sheer probability... Keep getting in contention and eventually it will come, but over the next 5 years it may only amount to one major...
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#195 Posted: 6/18/2011 2:54:13 AM
Tiger is far too fucked up mentally and physically to have a shot at the majors record. At this point, I doubt he will win again, period.
These younger guys have not had the experience of being intimidated by him. They don't give a garbage.
The tour is in transition right now, imo. There is a group of about 10 guys that will take turns winning the regular tourneys. As far as majors go...10 US Opens and 10 different winners in as many...that's what we'll see in all the majors for the next decade. |
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#196 Posted: 6/18/2011 6:34:27 AM
I miss Tiger Woods juiced up to the friggin sky. Enhancement drugs racing through his veins leading to so many fist pumps that we all could not see straight. Racing from tee to tee ignoring all of his fans and acting as if he was lord of the heavens.
Who cares if the records that he sets are all tainted? At least he created events, phony as darn, but we loved the ride.
So now, what other phony darn strides towards Bethlehem to be born???????????????????????????
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#197 Posted: 6/18/2011 9:45:55 AM |
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#198 Posted: 6/18/2011 1:06:28 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by VegasVeteran:
He is a shell of his former self.
I don't know if it is age, performance enhancement drugs, or family problems. But he is nowhere close to what we have seen before.
He reminds me of Mike Tyson after the loss to Buster Douglas. Thought he could regain the dominance but never did.
1st hole today. All 3 guys hit iron off the tee. Tiger was the furthest back. That is not the Tiger of old.
He can talk and justify all he wants. Jack's major record is safe. Tiger will be lucky to win 1 more major.
Age has nothing to do with it, Golf is not like other sports, you can win golf at ages when guys would have long retired in other sports.. That is why Golf is not a taxing sport, more of a hobby. |
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#199 Posted: 6/19/2011 9:12:33 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by MoneyShot:
Age has nothing to do with it, Golf is not like other sports, you can win golf at ages when guys would have long retired in other sports.. That is why Golf is not a taxing sport, more of a hobby.
I disagree.
All of the greats that dominated in golf, dominated when they were young. I have seen age creep up on all of the great golfers in the past 50 years. There was a tremendous dropoff of talent after the mid 30s range.
Oh sure, Watson almost won the British open at nearly 60 and Nicklaus won a major in his mid forties but those performances are flukes and they were surely not dominating the field like they once did in their youth.
The dropoff in their game was for all of them the short putts. They could do everything else but the knee knockers got the better of them in the end.
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#200 Posted: 8/7/2011 12:47:42 PM  |
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