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Posted: 5/19/2012 9:22:43 PM
Gents,

Whenever I go with my wife to the carnivals, I ended up spending $100-$200 on these games.  I'm pretty sure they are as rigged as betting on the NBA; however, i'm also certain that there are strategies involve because there are winners at times.  What says you?
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Posted: 5/19/2012 11:42:56 PM
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/beat-carnival-games.php
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Posted: 5/20/2012 1:11:45 AM

I tell ya what pisses me off is the jacked up food prices. My girl is mainly the festivals though.  Today it was $8 for a freaking crab cake, $6 for about 5 ounces of she crab soup.  $10 for a Gyro, yes $10 for it !!!!!!!  Granted it was a bit bigger than usual.  But gimme a break.

And it's the same damn booths set up for everyone one of them.

But I still go.

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Posted: 5/20/2012 12:31:02 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Lippsman:

I tell ya what pisses me off is the jacked up food prices. My girl is mainly the festivals though.  Today it was $8 for a freaking crab cake, $6 for about 5 ounces of she crab soup.  $10 for a Gyro, yes $10 for it !!!!!!!  Granted it was a bit bigger than usual.  But gimme a break.

And it's the same damn booths set up for everyone one of them.

But I still go.


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Yes, and most of them taste like crap. The only thing I find good to the taste buds are: grilled corn, pork chop on a stick, and turkey leg.
If you have kids, then they would get a kick out of the carnivals more than you do. Though, I thoroughly enjoy seeing the live animals as well as some carnival rides.


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Posted: 5/20/2012 12:36:32 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wjeremy97:

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/beat-carnival-games.php

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thanks, matey.
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Posted: 5/21/2012 1:25:59 AM
There are several youtube video tutorials available. I cant remember the title descriptions right now, but I remember seeing one talking about winning at the baseball throwing game where you throw ball at 3 old milk jugs.. another about making a basketball shot where the rim is in an oval shape and not naturally circle.
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Posted: 5/21/2012 10:09:22 AM
Interesting topic.

I will tell you now, I have already tried to master these games and it doesn't work.

Before the age of the internet, it was possible but now I don't believe it is. Because you can find everything about these games on websites, in addition to a slew of cheaply priced books through Amazon, the carnival barkers have turned the tables on the once gullible, but now educated and fully aware public (with regard to the 'tricks' it takes to win a 'choice' prize). They also know everything you will try to do win and have already altered the rules to eliminate the tips on these websites and in these books. 

What's the problem and how do I know this?

Well I attempted to beat some of these games a few summers ago. I researched several, understood all the tricks these stands utilize to take your money, and actually set up some mock games in an attempt to master them.

So what was the end result? 

I ended up spending DOUBLE the amount I would have spent if I wouldn't have prepared myself.

How did that happen? Slight variations in the game make them virtually impossible to win.

Example:

Shot the Star game - I can definitively say the paper is now ever so slightly thicker and the star is slightly bigger. That's the difference between a hanging chad and a loss, and a win. Also, the guns they give you are in no way accurate. The barrel can be bent to send the BB's in just a bit to the right or left, for which after you compensate, you are out of shots.

Milk Bottle Pyramid - I'm convinced even Randy Johnson would lose at this game 100 out of 100 times. One of the bottom bottles is weighted and you'll never topple it. Unless of course they put in a regular weighted bottle for a big crowd to see a winner, only to replace it with the heavier one when the money starts pouring in.

Softball in a basket game - One of the worst if not the most rigged carnival game of all time. The stand worker will convince you you can win because he stands at an angle and tosses it in. From the angle you are at, the basket is tilted in such a way (the naked eye telling you you have a chance) that they already know you will not be making a winning shot. It doesn't matter how many times you set this up and practice it at home. It's a sure loser.

Toss the quarter on a plate game - MASSIVE waste of money and huge profit maker for the fair since everyone who passes pulls out a quarter or two and takes a shot. They won't let you throw multiple quarters so they can hit off each other and stay on a plate so you literally will have to hit another quarter in mid-air to make this work. Also, they hang those giant boa constrictor stuffed animals in the way of a semi-high throw so, you guessed it, you hit the prize on a toss get frustrated and have to spend even more money. (This is extremely duplicitous, since you wouldn't win anyway but because you are pissed off after hitting it, you break out another dollar).

Ring toss - There's a reason why they give you 200 rings to throw at those jugs. It wouldn't matter if they gave you 20,000. You're still losing at this game. The only way to win it is to throw the entire bucket at a bottle and they won't allow this.


In a down economy, people will go to the carnival less and spend less money there if they do go. This brings out the shrewdest carnys who will fight for every nickel and dime from the masses while giving up nothing in the process. 

My advice on the games to play:

The Crane Game - It's cheap and you may win a very small prize. NEVER go for the cranes with fake rolex's, x-box's, and ipads. You can spend the entire summer at those cranes like a village idiot and never win at them. Go for cranes with ugly t-shirts or really tiny stuff animals that could be tied to the front of your car grill. You have a shot with those. (after spending $5 bucks at least...)

Basketball - If you are accurate, a high arc and a good shot will win it. Just wait for someone else to win and use that hoop. Only a swish wins, not a bank.

The wheel - At a minimum, while the other games are literally impossible, at least there is a number on the wheel that is a winner. Give them a buck and you'll get 4 attempts which will waste time and provide a rush. You'll still be a loser at the end of the night but at least you had a shot.

On that note, I would like to say I will be a corpse before I pay $10 for a gyro.


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Posted: 5/21/2012 10:19:11 AM
The softball in the basket game sucks because the baskets are sitting on a hollowed surface.  When the ball hits the bottom of the basket it will bounce back out. Most of the time people will aim for the bottom of the basket, the goal is to try to drop the ball with a high arching toss. 
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Posted: 5/21/2012 2:52:42 PM

I think in the softballl; toss game there are tiny nails/tacks at the bottom of the basket as well.

 

If shooting basketball the hoop is only wide enough for a smaller ball. If you dont swish ,no chance at winning.

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Posted: 5/21/2012 3:04:55 PM

The ring toss is such a con that if the carny gets a live one he will let him SLIDE a ring over the post and he still can't do it.

The ball on a chain that you swing like a pendulum to knock over a pin is controlled at the top with a swivel that alters the swing.The carny is elevated so you can't reach the end of the chain.

The NBA isn't that bad but good luck looking for a carny to give you an even break.

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Posted: 5/21/2012 6:21:27 PM
in camp about 15ish years ago I won on the ring toss game.
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Posted: 5/21/2012 6:57:53 PM
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Posted: 5/21/2012 7:11:19 PM

Every single carny game I completely suck at...it's really embarrassing I'll empty my wallet throwing those friggin balls at the plates until I'm broke.

I throw the stupid ball at 90mph and miss everything instead 10 mph like you're supposed to.

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Posted: 5/21/2012 7:13:22 PM

Milk Bottle Pyramid - I'm convinced even Randy Johnson would lose at this game 100 out of 100 times. One of the bottom bottles is weighted and you'll never topple it. Unless of course they put in a regular weighted bottle for a big crowd to see a winner, only to replace it with the heavier one when the money starts pouring in.

Scal, you have restored some pride in me. I do exactly what RJ would do.

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Posted: 5/21/2012 8:06:09 PM

This is a fun thread. When my son was younger, he loved those carnivals and especially enjoyed the dart game where you break the balloons. I learned a long time ago that even though those carnival workers are a rough looking bunch, they're not bad people for the most part.

I used to have my son point out what prize or stuffed animal he wanted ad then I would just ask the game operator how much would we have to play to get that prize. It could be as little as ten bucks or as high as twenty. After he broke the last balloon, the carny would either ring the bell or yell out "we have a winner" and would give my son that prize. It worked every time on the dart game and on other games as well. Priceless memories.

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Posted: 5/21/2012 9:50:55 PM
Step right up & win some garbage!
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Posted: 5/21/2012 9:55:03 PM

This is the best advice you will get:

Keep a little crystal in your pocket or "carnie katnip," as I like to call it. This should get you anything you want.

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Posted: 5/21/2012 10:23:54 PM

On the bottle toss, I usually aim at the carnies head, and clock him.

I tell him "My aim is a little off, but if you give that blue bunny rabbit, I'll leave"

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Posted: 5/21/2012 11:28:29 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

Milk Bottle Pyramid - I'm convinced even Randy Johnson would lose at this game 100 out of 100 times. One of the bottom bottles is weighted and you'll never topple it. Unless of course they put in a regular weighted bottle for a big crowd to see a winner, only to replace it with the heavier one when the money starts pouring in.

Scal, you have restored some pride in me. I do exactly what RJ would do.


Doesn't matter how hard you throw it. You could set the fast-pitch batting cage machine in front of those jugs and all three are not going down when its rigged (which it is 99% of the time, except of course when they want the hot girl to win in front of her boyfriend and only to watch him lose endlessly). 
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Posted: 5/21/2012 11:41:53 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Doesn't matter how hard you throw it. You could set the fast-pitch batting cage machine in front of those jugs and all three are not going down when its rigged (which it is 99% of the time, except of course when they want the hot girl to win in front of her boyfriend and only to watch him lose endlessly). 

Exactly.

 

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Posted: 5/21/2012 11:53:36 PM

Sheriff Taylor owns the carnies in this video.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4iBBUTqab0

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Posted: 5/22/2012 2:05:24 PM
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Posted: 5/22/2012 2:23:24 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by slikstiks99:

This is the best advice you will get:

Keep a little crystal in your pocket or "carnie katnip," as I like to call it. This should get you anything you want.

hahah i was laughing my behind of wen i read this
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Posted: 5/22/2012 2:50:31 PM
when i was in high school i used to work at these games on the boardwalk on the jersey shore. A lot of people don't seem to understand that the vendor doesn't need to "cheat" or get an edge. They just give you a garbage prize making you think at first you'll win a bigger prize lols. Then they have you hooked.

Also the key to the close quarters hoops game is to not shoot like a regular freethrow; shoot underhanded. We used to fuckaround n gamble on all these different games of skills n luck when it was dead and we were bored just to kill time. My left hand got better in hoops because of all this goofin off lols.

We were on different types of games each day so everyone got to master all the different games n knew which games to totally stay away from - not that you'd ever really want to waste your money playin these anyway.
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Posted: 5/22/2012 2:52:22 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by wjeremy97:

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/beat-carnival-games.php

I can't beat that shoot the star out game for the life of me.  I've always employed the recommended strategy (it's obvious), but those guns are just to in-accurate.  
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