JR Seau found shot to death.

Forum: General Discussion Page 4 of 5  1 2 3 4 5  
Author: [General Discussion] Topic: JR Seau found shot to death.
sowhat83 PM sowhat83
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 484
 
sowhat83
Participation Meter
Banned
Posted: 5/3/2012 9:46:30 AM
bottom-line is that if you commit suicide FOR ANY REASON, you are a selfish, cowardly, loser...which makes Jr. Seau a selfish, cowardly, LOSER...his mother will never recover from this, nor will his children who need him much more than they can ever say.....disgusting make believe tough-guy.....................Seau=wimp
madshooter72 PM madshooter72
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6592
 
madshooter72
Participation Meter
Captain
Posted: 5/3/2012 10:35:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Kelly_Slater:



I can will and have lumped everyone who kills themselves into this category. 

I do not care if you went to war, were molested, or had 23 concussions. 

It is unacceptable to kill yourself 

 

very well said

nuggins PM nuggins
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3070
 
nuggins
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 11:29:50 AM
Too bad it wasn't Rivers or Norv... bummer.
nuggins PM nuggins
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3070
 
nuggins
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 11:39:22 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Kelly_Slater:



I can will and have lumped everyone who kills themselves into this category. 

I do not care if you went to war, were molested, or had 23 concussions. 

It is unacceptable to kill yourself 



I, like many think suicie is cowardly and box garbage ...but how would you know about being to war? being abused or concused?

Some people are weaker than others...i.e. idiots that off themselves because they were bullied at school ... but perhaps seeing your friends blown apart, participating in friendly fire, or killing innocents puts someone in a dark place... thinking you should be the one that died or killed a woman, and eldery man or children can weigh tremendously on an individual

Being molested? think that can scar a person up pretty good under certain circumstances...if your uncle stuck a broom stick up your behind for years while other family members stood idle make make you feel pretty worthless.

Concussions...unless you had multiple ones and your brain is all scrambled no one can really say what's it's like...and of course the roids didn't make anything better

it's a weak move yes...but many aren't that strong to overcome guilt, isolation, etc.

unacceptable to many yes... the only solution to someones demons, burdens, etc. ... yes

oh well...better him than me
KinKAID PM KinKAID
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3382
 
KinKAID
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 11:52:21 AM
Look it's pretty apparent to me that there was obviously more going on here. If there wasn't then IMO he doesn't choose the chest. It's purely speculation at this point but it seems as if he knew something was "off" up there in his brain, otherwise why the chest?!?

Deurson obviously didn't inspire this but I have a very strong feeling that his decision paved the path for Junior's as far as exactly where, because he knew his brain would be studied and analyzed, which seems like that's what he wanted. If he didn't think there were any problems which stemmed from head trauma/concussions then he doesn't choose the chest IMO. 

Thoughts are a bit cluttered this morning so I apologize but you should still be able to see what I'm getting at here...

Another thing, and I discussed this at length with a buddy of mine last night, this could be the most disturbing thing too...As horrifying and shocking as it is, and it very much is, we can't be sure that these tragic deaths will not continue to happen. We know very little about the long term effects of severe concussions or head trauma. It's extremely sad but what can we do really? Really want to know what comes out of the research and analysis in Boston...

Once again RIP Junior 
nuggins PM nuggins
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3070
 
nuggins
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 11:58:49 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KinKAID:

Really want to know what comes out of the research and analysis in Boston...

Once again RIP Junior 


in the NFLs defense in all the different studies of ex players they will prob "find little correlation" ...wouldn't surprise me
KinKAID PM KinKAID
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3382
 
KinKAID
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 12:43:31 PM
Well regardless of what they do or don't find, there is a storm coming...

And with it a lawsuit for a number most of us cannot even fathom. If action of some sort isn't taken, and soon...there may not be a National Football League much longer. 

You could pay off a good chunk of the US debt with the amount this eventual lawsuit is going to be worth. 
Eddy_Winslow PM Eddy_Winslow
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3429
 
Eddy_Winslow
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 12:57:46 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by sowhat83:

bottom-line is that if you commit suicide FOR ANY REASON, you are a selfish, cowardly, loser...which makes Jr. Seau a selfish, cowardly, LOSER...his mother will never recover from this, nor will his children who need him much more than they can ever say.....disgusting make believe tough-guy.....................Seau=wimp
People like you make me and pretty much everyone else sick. You are lost and stuck in the 1960's. Mental health issue's are serious and you know NOTHING of Seau's situation. You are a clown.
mainmanmainman2 PM mainmanmainman2
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4357
 
mainmanmainman2
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 1:05:28 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by sowhat83:

bottom-line is that if you commit suicide FOR ANY REASON, you are a selfish, cowardly, loser...which makes Jr. Seau a selfish, cowardly, LOSER...his mother will never recover from this, nor will his children who need him much more than they can ever say.....disgusting make believe tough-guy.....................Seau=wimp


you probably never walked in another persons shoes before, shows how ignorant u are. sooner or later it might be u wearing that hoodie.
Allbutbroke PM Allbutbroke
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 4508
 
Allbutbroke
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 3:51:57 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by sowhat83:

bottom-line is that if you commit suicide FOR ANY REASON, you are a selfish, cowardly, loser...which makes Jr. Seau a selfish, cowardly, LOSER...his mother will never recover from this, nor will his children who need him much more than they can ever say.....disgusting make believe tough-guy.....................Seau=wimp

Absolutely suicide is a selfish act ...............but you are certainly demonstrating how much of a shallow thinking loser you really are.  Do you think he wanted to hurt his family?  Not a friggen chance - so imagine the demons that were torturing him that made suicide appear as the only solution.  Seau a wimp....not a chance.  Sowhat83 - a wimp - in more ways than one.  Grow up.

I_Need_A_Detox PM I_Need_A_Detox
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 17247
 
I_Need_A_Detox
Participation Meter
MVP
Posted: 5/3/2012 3:54:43 PM
kinkaid, eddie, allbutbroke ... finally some normal people posting comments. 

LRM704 PM LRM704
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 10226
 
LRM704
Participation Meter
All-Star
Posted: 5/3/2012 4:49:55 PM

Some of these posts are totally ignorant.

All these kids that are being bullied and do the unthinkable are cowards ?

Friggin ignorant fool

mainmanmainman2 PM mainmanmainman2
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4357
 
mainmanmainman2
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 5:23:28 PM
We are at a critical time in the history of the game. If Seau actually committed suicide, he will be at least the third former NFL player to have killed himself in the span of 15 month, joining Dave Duerson and Ray Easterling. Additionally, Andre Waters killed himself in 2006. Disturbing is just the start of how you describe that trend.


^ nfl withdraw... welcome to the real world folks.
earthWake PM earthWake
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 6183
 
earthWake
Participation Meter
Captain
Posted: 5/3/2012 5:35:05 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

Would love to hear the people running to his defense telling us that he played a violent sport for 38years. When he was
cashing those 10,000 checks every other business day it was all fine and dandy though, right? 

Left his mother without a son, and left his kids without a father. Only people worth feeling sorry for is them.

Heres a fact you should know if you watch sports.

Players get game checks, In the NFL they collect their check the day after their game. Most of the time, they don't even collect it and it is deposited strictly into their bank account.

Its very un-likely Seau was cashing 10k checks every other day, if ever.

R.i.p
nuggins PM nuggins
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3070
 
nuggins
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 5:45:21 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LRM704:

Some of these posts are totally ignorant.

All these kids that are being bullied and do the unthinkable are cowards ?

Friggin ignorant fool



Yeah...that about sums it up...
nuggins PM nuggins
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3070
 
nuggins
Participation Meter
Veteran
Posted: 5/3/2012 5:45:58 PM

cow·ard/'kou?rd/

A person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.
jmw59 PM jmw59
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 14142
  jmw59
Participation Meter
All-Star
Posted: 5/3/2012 6:09:57 PM
Jm4n PM Jm4n
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 365
  Jm4n
Participation Meter
Prospect
Posted: 5/4/2012 2:59:21 AM
How many of you guys who are tearing this man apart have ever been close to doing what he did? In other words have you ever walked in his shoes? Im guessing the answer is going to be no. sowhat83 PM sowhat83
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 484
  sowhat83
Participation Meter
Banned
Posted: 5/4/2012 8:47:27 AM
what dfid he do, exactly? Play a kids game for twenty years of his life? Getting paid milliions of dollars to do it? Become rich and famous and getting to live not only in his home town, but in arguably the greatest place climate and box wise on the planet? Oh, poor Jr.....
Kelly_Slater PM Kelly_Slater
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7621
  Kelly_Slater
Participation Meter
Captain
Posted: 5/4/2012 10:17:11 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

People like you make me and pretty much everyone else sick. You are lost and stuck in the 1960's. Mental health issue's are serious and you know NOTHING of Seau's situation. You are a clown.


you don't seem to get it either person lips. 

how do you know that sowhat83 doesn't suffer from severe depression himself but makes a point to keep on striving? 

how do you know he hasn't wanted to kill himself and felt like he wanted to end his own life?? 

The answer is you don't.  

There is a difference between being depressed and miserable with horrible emotions and THOUGHTS of killing yourself and actually taking your own life. 

it makes no difference including mental health issues OR drug addiction. 

today there are plenty of people like seau that frequently and continually feel like killing themselves. they always have since they were in their teens. 

Many people every day feel like living may not be the best option but preserver anyway.







Killing yourself is unacceptable.
Kelly_Slater PM Kelly_Slater
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7621
  Kelly_Slater
Participation Meter
Captain
Posted: 5/4/2012 10:18:06 PM
testing Kelly_Slater PM Kelly_Slater
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7621
  Kelly_Slater
Participation Meter
Captain
Posted: 5/4/2012 10:18:15 PM
1 Kelly_Slater PM Kelly_Slater
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7621
  Kelly_Slater
Participation Meter
Captain
Posted: 5/4/2012 10:18:22 PM
2 Kelly_Slater PM Kelly_Slater
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7621
  Kelly_Slater
Participation Meter
Captain
Posted: 5/4/2012 10:18:28 PM
3 Kelly_Slater PM Kelly_Slater
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 7621
  Kelly_Slater
Participation Meter
Captain
quote#100
Posted: 5/4/2012 10:18:37 PM
4
Forum: General Discussion Page 4 of 5  1 2 3 4 5  
You have entered the forum as a GUEST. 
You must login/register to post or reply.