Posted: 3/24/2012 12:59:22 PM
Originally Posted by ogmike
Ok, I can't believe I just read straight through 11 pages of this garbage.
I told myself I would stop reading Scal's threads, but for whatever
reason, I decided to open this one. As much as I can't stand
Scalabrine, and get annoyed by his insistent stance on prejudices
against blacks in about every facet of society... I'm starting to see
his point a little.
Do I agree with him necessarily on this particular
topic? I don't know yet, b/c I'm unsure if I truly believe that his
intentions are directed at the police. He says that he would have
started this thread if he had known that Zimmerman was Hispanic. I can't really believe that, based on his history of posting about injustices against blacks by "white America." One thing I do know is that Scalabrine is definitely an intelligent/informed individual. I know this by reading through many of his previous posts about race relations. He has a very extensive vocabulary and wide comprehension of current events and past history alike. He is also very proud and strong in his convictions... but also stubborn. Which is why his underlying motivation behind starting this thread will probably not be admitted or even recognized by himself for that matter.But after reading the first few pages and seeing some of the derogatory comments toward blacks in general, I can see where he gets some of his ammunition
for spewing his hate. There were many unwarranted attacks/stereotypes directed at the black community that contributed nothing to the discussion.
So, as much as I disagree with Scal on many of his postions on inequality between blacks and whites, I see where he gets his talking points. They're directly from the mouths of white Americans. I recognize that racism/discrimination still exists in America and in the world, but I disagree with Scalabrine on many of his threads. For some of you that chose to disagree with him in this specific thread, not only do you recognize that racism still exists, you seem to be an advocate of it.
This is an important post. Why?
Because it from someone other than myself with credibility on this site, who has observed what I have observed and finds it alarming, that being the 'unwarranted attacks/stereotypes' against blacks.
It is a member from 2002 with several thousand posts, who is in the GD forum often enough to establish a legitimate presence.
Therefore, although it is only one individual, it is still from a member that is in the good graces of the covers community much more so than I (which is perfectly fine with me, I simply post my viewpoints and defend them to the extent to which they can be defended).
When another member who frequents this forum, and more specifically, one whos main stance on this site is not race related, makes an observation like this, it should be take into consideration, not only by the offenders, but by many others who don't believe there is an issue with the derogatory commentary against blacks that has long been a staple of this covers enclave.
Right here in this thread, the word 'mammy' was used. I can assure you, that if you use that word among the presence of any black adult, you will be excoriated at a minimum. It is a word of heavy defamation and mockery, if not outright hate. After its was used in post #37, it wasn't condemned, but applauded in post #38, #41, and laughed heartily at in post #54.
Why is this of note?
There are one million plus ways we can insult one another, in good taste and in bad. From the male environments of locker rooms, barrooms, and the blacktop, we all have learned to compete and defend ourselves verbally and if necessary, physically from competition or offense.
But racial insults bring this verbal jousting to a whole new sordid and dehumanizing level, and it all too evident throughout this thread (this includes but is not limited to the following: post #40 with the often used 'welfare' insult; Post #59 about 'rapping and playing basketball'; Post #189 'stealing flatscreens').
These are very common invectives lobbed at the black community as a whole - men, women, and children - to denigrate them as a peoples. Why is it at a peoples? Because they share a common race. Not only that, black mothers could have sons who are black, black sisters could have brothers who are black, black wives could have husbands who are black, and black children could have fathers who are black. The point is that you may want to use the excuse you are rightfully attacking the 'young black male' but it extends well beyond that.
Here's a post (now moved to the penalty box but not after it spent a good week in GD) with the word n***er in post #11, showing the mods care little about black race by not deleting the post, and showing that the terms and conditions they allegedly proclaim should serve as rule of law on this site, mean very little when it comes to the defamation of African Americans.
What else can you observe, with one or two exceptions out of hundreds, NO ONE condemning the outright racist slurs right before their eyes as seen in this thread and the linked one. While I probe deeper about the racial intent of a post, it is SPELLED OUT in full for others, and others remain quiet either not caring or having the offense warrant very little of their attention.
The point: Many here are advocates of this type of behavior, as stated in the quoted post, and it speaks volumes. Let the Trayvon Martin murder, and what you know of it in the news and through this thread, bring some clarity to those with severely clouded and problematic views concerning those of color.