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Posted: 3/13/2012 2:33:52 PM

most of them judge the garbage out of others, talk behind peoples backs and try to control their kids lives at an extreme level.

it seems to me that most of them live in extreme fear.

why is this?

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Posted: 3/13/2012 2:41:04 PM
Because those people believe that others who are not of the same religion are hellbound and/or actively rejecting a fundamental belief system that is very important to them.
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Posted: 3/13/2012 2:44:31 PM

Simple.

When God is on YOUR side, everyone else is wrong and worthy of being looked down on.  God give YOU the ultimate power because you and him are on the same page.

This is a nice little article on the subject:  LINK

God Agrees With Me

Researchers at the University of Chicago have done a series of experiments looking at how people regard God's intentions about issues. As the study notes:

Religion appears to serve as a moral compass for the vast majority of people around the world. It informs whether same-sex marriage is love or sin, whether war is an act of security or of terror, and whether abortion rights represent personal liberty or permission to murder. Many religions are centered on a god (or gods) that has beliefs and intentions, with adherents encouraged to follow ‘‘God’s will’’ on everything from martyrdom to career planning to voting. Within these religious systems, how do people know what their god wills?

Well, it turns out that God generally agrees with each individual believer. The researchers find:

Intuiting God’s beliefs on important issues may not produce an independent guide, but may instead serve as an echo chamber that reverberates one’s own beliefs.

The scientists conducted a number of studies, but one of the more fascinating was an fMRI brain scan in which they looked at which parts of believers' brains were activated when they were asked about what they believed, what other people might believe, and what God believes about ten different moral issues. It turns out that thinking about what God believes activates the same brain areas as thinking about one's own views.

The researchers conclude:

[T]hese data provide insight into the sources of people’s own religious beliefs. Although people obviously acquire religious beliefs from a variety of external sources, from parents to broader cultural influences, these data suggest that the self may serve as an important source of religious beliefs as well. Not only are believers likely to acquire the beliefs and theology of others around them, but may also seek out believers and theologies that share their own personal beliefs. If people seek out religious communities that match their own personal views on major social, moral, or political issues, then the information coming from religious sources is likely to further validate and strengthen their own personal convictions and values. Religious belief has generally been treated as a process of socialization whereby people’s personal beliefs about God come to reflect what they learn from those around them, but these data suggest that the inverse causal process may be important as well: people’s personal beliefs may guide their own religious beliefs and the religious communities they seek to be part of.

Finally, these data have interesting implications for the impact of religious thought on judgment and decision-making. People may use religious agents as a moral compass, forming impressions and making decisions based on what they presume God as the ultimate moral authority would believe or want. The central feature of a compass, however, is that it points north no matter what direction a person is facing. This research suggests that, unlike an actual compass, inferences about God’s beliefs may instead point people further in whatever direction they are already facing.

Talk about confirmation bias!

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Posted: 3/13/2012 2:52:39 PM
Religion is just another form of power. There you have your answer.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by vanzack:

Simple.

When God is on YOUR side, everyone else is wrong and worthy of being looked down on.  God give YOU the ultimate power because you and him are on the same page.

This is a nice little article on the subject:  LINK

God Agrees With Me

Researchers at the University of Chicago have done a series of experiments looking at how people regard God's intentions about issues. As the study notes:

Religion appears to serve as a moral compass for the vast majority of people around the world. It informs whether same-sex marriage is love or sin, whether war is an act of security or of terror, and whether abortion rights represent personal liberty or permission to murder. Many religions are centered on a god (or gods) that has beliefs and intentions, with adherents encouraged to follow ‘‘God’s will’’ on everything from martyrdom to career planning to voting. Within these religious systems, how do people know what their god wills?

Well, it turns out that God generally agrees with each individual believer. The researchers find:

Intuiting God’s beliefs on important issues may not produce an independent guide, but may instead serve as an echo chamber that reverberates one’s own beliefs.

The scientists conducted a number of studies, but one of the more fascinating was an fMRI brain scan in which they looked at which parts of believers' brains were activated when they were asked about what they believed, what other people might believe, and what God believes about ten different moral issues. It turns out that thinking about what God believes activates the same brain areas as thinking about one's own views.

The researchers conclude:

[T]hese data provide insight into the sources of people’s own religious beliefs. Although people obviously acquire religious beliefs from a variety of external sources, from parents to broader cultural influences, these data suggest that the self may serve as an important source of religious beliefs as well. Not only are believers likely to acquire the beliefs and theology of others around them, but may also seek out believers and theologies that share their own personal beliefs. If people seek out religious communities that match their own personal views on major social, moral, or political issues, then the information coming from religious sources is likely to further validate and strengthen their own personal convictions and values. Religious belief has generally been treated as a process of socialization whereby people’s personal beliefs about God come to reflect what they learn from those around them, but these data suggest that the inverse causal process may be important as well: people’s personal beliefs may guide their own religious beliefs and the religious communities they seek to be part of.

Finally, these data have interesting implications for the impact of religious thought on judgment and decision-making. People may use religious agents as a moral compass, forming impressions and making decisions based on what they presume God as the ultimate moral authority would believe or want. The central feature of a compass, however, is that it points north no matter what direction a person is facing. This research suggests that, unlike an actual compass, inferences about God’s beliefs may instead point people further in whatever direction they are already facing.

Talk about confirmation bias!



this idea was summed up very well i this quote:

"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." Susan B. Anthony
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Posted: 3/13/2012 3:23:23 PM

Well, it gives you a chance to act like Marvin Gayes father, a preacher, by the way, and to ask forgiveness from The Lord.

Check it: The first 38-caliber slug had entered his right chest at a 30 degree downward angle, perforating the right lung, heart, diaphragm, liver, stomach, and left kidney before coming to rest against his left flank. It was immediately fatal.

happy Sr. stepped forward and fired again at point-blank range. He then went downstairs to the front porch, threw the pistol out onto the lawn and sat down to await police.

Praise be to Allah

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Posted: 3/13/2012 3:29:17 PM
what's scary is, detox...are those that are religious, powerful, & wealthy!


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Posted: 3/13/2012 3:30:53 PM
its some form of higher being... etc...


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Posted: 3/13/2012 4:05:22 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

most of them judge the garbage out of others, talk behind peoples backs and try to control their kids lives at an extreme level.

it seems to me that most of them live in extreme fear.

why is this?



sounds like to me you live in a area that's predominantly full of closed minded people and you surround yourself with too many females.

to say this only pertains to religious people is ignorant...humans in general do this.

true believers don't live in fear...whatever y0
 
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Posted: 3/13/2012 4:15:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PokinSmot:



sounds like to me you live in a area that's predominantly full of closed minded people and you surround yourself with too many females.

to say this only pertains to religious people is ignorant...humans in general do this.

true believers don't live in fear...whatever y0
 


Bang on Pot!

Detox-I am a believer and couldn't be less afraid of anything. My faith gives me an overwhelming comfort and peace. Before I was a paranoid and anxious little garbage. I also mean comfort during extreme high intensity situations as in serving two terms in afghan in some sticky spots.

You're making an extremely biased argument and I can 100% vouch that you do not know all people of different types or perhaps the people of right kind of types of religion that aren't afraid.
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Posted: 3/13/2012 4:26:07 PM
In the interest of being objective, many non-religious people are the same way.  My sister firmly believes in God, but she abhors the people who shove it down your throat.  We talk about it all the time and I think we both make good points.  

Death scares the crap out of me.  I can't know there isn't a god, but there are so many questions that don't make sense to me. This is the best description for me.  If I'm condemned because I can't make sense of this, I guess I'll have to live with it.  For me, it's no different than someone who is happy and continues to deny it.  I've seen too many people who have destroyed themselves trying to be a person they aren't.  If you are a God fearing person, I respect that.  But I would also appreciate if those people could understand where I am coming from.   

Question: What Is Cognitive Dissonance?
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People tend to seek consistency in their beliefs and perceptions. So what happens when one of our beliefs conflicts with another previously held belief? The term cognitive dissonance is used to describe the feeling of discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs. When there is a discrepancy between beliefs and behaviors, something must change in order to eliminate or reduce the dissonance.



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Posted: 3/13/2012 4:29:42 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

In the interest of being objective, many non-religious people are the same way.  My sister firmly believes in God, but she abhors the people who shove it down your throat.  We talk about it all the time and I think we both make good points.  

Death scares the crap out of me.  I can't know there isn't a god, but there are so many questions that don't make sense to me. This is the best description for me.  If I'm condemned because I can't make sense of this, I guess I'll have to live with it.  For me, it's no different than someone who is happy and continues to deny it.  I've seen too many people who have destroyed themselves trying to be a person they aren't.  If you are a God fearing person, I respect that.  But I would also appreciate if those people could understand where I am coming from.   

Question: What Is Cognitive Dissonance?
Answer:

People tend to seek consistency in their beliefs and perceptions. So what happens when one of our beliefs conflicts with another previously held belief? The term cognitive dissonance is used to describe the feeling of discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs. When there is a discrepancy between beliefs and behaviors, something must change in order to eliminate or reduce the dissonance.





100% agree. Hate the forcing it on people.
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Posted: 3/13/2012 4:30:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by minion0812:



Bang on Pot!

Detox-I am a believer and couldn't be less afraid of anything. My faith gives me an overwhelming comfort and peace. Before I was a paranoid and anxious little garbage. I also mean comfort during extreme high intensity situations as in serving two terms in afghan in some sticky spots.

You're making an extremely biased argument and I can 100% vouch that you do not know all people of different types or perhaps the people of right kind of types of religion that aren't afraid.

minion-

The 9/11 highjackers pretty much lived without fear as well.  I question whether living without any fear is a good thing to be honest.  
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Posted: 3/13/2012 4:45:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by PokinSmot:



sounds like to me you live in a area that's predominantly full of closed minded people and you surround yourself with too many females.

to say this only pertains to religious people is ignorant...humans in general do this.

true believers don't live in fear...whatever y0
 


tell that to the inquisition
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Posted: 3/13/2012 5:04:35 PM

bullshit, everyone has fear.

people that say they don't have any fear have the most.

* the hijackers/suicide bombers are just about acting on fear alone.

 

 

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Posted: 3/13/2012 5:24:09 PM

minion, what if your 100% vouch couldn't be more wrong?

what does that say about you?

because it is wrong. 

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Originally Posted by PokinSmot:



sounds like to me you live in a area that's predominantly full of closed minded people and you surround yourself with too many females.

to say this only pertains to religious people is ignorant...humans in general do this.

true believers don't live in fear...whatever y0
 

where did i say it only pertains to religious people?

i proably talk to/interact with 70% males and 30% females.

other than that ... you hit the nail on the head. 

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Be wary of people that stand on pedestals and point fingers. 
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Posted: 3/13/2012 6:01:14 PM
Human nature is pretty simple. People believe what they want/hope  to be true. The bible is written in parables or  riddle's making it even easier to make it seem that everything is agreeable to the person that is reading it. If someone wants to believe that a reading in the bible backs up what they believe it is very easy to make that assumption.
It also leaves interpretation wide open as we can see by the many religions reading the exact same thing but coming to a very different meaning, which to me is a dangerous thing.
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So NON believers DONT look down on others and judge them?

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QUOTE Originally Posted by Rostos:

So NON believers DONT look down on others and judge them?


Works both ways.....at least I can admit that.  
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Because they know the we know that they're all a bunch of brain washed idiots that rely on an imaginary friend to solve their problems.
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Because they know the we know that they're all a bunch of brain washed idiots that rely on an imaginary friend to solve their problems.

as opposed to non-believers who buy into 'luck' or 'karma' or 'justice'?

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QUOTE Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:


Works both ways.....at least I can admit that.  

Exacty, so why even brng did this thread even come up? It is no different to me starting up a thread saying why do non believers cough?

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