the people that write all the card counting books, make their money selling books, not counting cards.
If you are a card counter and winning money, your winning that money because of random luck.
CD you really have no idea what you are talking about. I have had a run of luck over the past 25 years.
I must be one lucky S.O.B.
But you are correct about the people that get all pissed off about someone taking a card or not. In the long run it all evens out. And the ones that bitch and moan about that have no idea about counting all. They are just blackjack junkies that most don't even know basic strategy.CD you really have no idea what you are talking about. I have had a run of luck over the past 25 years.
I must be one lucky S.O.B.
But you are correct about the people that get all pissed off about someone taking a card or not. In the long run it all evens out. And the ones that bitch and moan about that have no idea about counting all. They are just blackjack junkies that most don't even know basic strategy.Well all more advanced counting systems do that. But the K-O system uses what is called an unbalanced count. When you use a balanced count you will always be at 0 on the last card. With an unbalanced count you don't get that.
With the K-O system you up your wagers when you hit a certain number such at +1
Example.......You start your count at -7 when the deck starts. When it hits +1 you then up your wagers. So you don't have to do any calculations. Just do your usual -1, 0 or +1 for each card that comes out.
This is why I tell everyone to start out with the K-O system. You don't have to remember any matrix with tons of numbers in it. Here you have just one simple matrix with A,B, or C in it. Now of course there are some adjustments if you want to get that extra .50% out of it. But I tell everyone to just master the basics of it and worry about the rest later. I mean really, most won't play again or it will be many years before they take another A/C or Vegas trip.
Personally I juse my own count that's a level 3 count. It's a combination of a Uston's Advanced Point Count and mine. I never tell anyone to use this one. For example, here are the numbers I use.
2 = +1
3,4 =+2
5 = +3
6,7 = +2
8 = +1
9 = -1
10 = -3
A = 0
Again I use this because it's very powerful, but very, very difficult. It's just how I learned to begin with, so I have stuck with this level type of system. If I started now I would no doubt use K-O.
There has been another author that has refined K-O even more
BTW, I did use K-O this past weekend at a private Blackjack game. We were watching football also, so I didn't want to think about heavy calculations and such. So I used it and did quite well.
Well all more advanced counting systems do that. But the K-O system uses what is called an unbalanced count. When you use a balanced count you will always be at 0 on the last card. With an unbalanced count you don't get that.
With the K-O system you up your wagers when you hit a certain number such at +1
Example.......You start your count at -7 when the deck starts. When it hits +1 you then up your wagers. So you don't have to do any calculations. Just do your usual -1, 0 or +1 for each card that comes out.
This is why I tell everyone to start out with the K-O system. You don't have to remember any matrix with tons of numbers in it. Here you have just one simple matrix with A,B, or C in it. Now of course there are some adjustments if you want to get that extra .50% out of it. But I tell everyone to just master the basics of it and worry about the rest later. I mean really, most won't play again or it will be many years before they take another A/C or Vegas trip.
Personally I juse my own count that's a level 3 count. It's a combination of a Uston's Advanced Point Count and mine. I never tell anyone to use this one. For example, here are the numbers I use.
2 = +1
3,4 =+2
5 = +3
6,7 = +2
8 = +1
9 = -1
10 = -3
A = 0
Again I use this because it's very powerful, but very, very difficult. It's just how I learned to begin with, so I have stuck with this level type of system. If I started now I would no doubt use K-O.
There has been another author that has refined K-O even more
BTW, I did use K-O this past weekend at a private Blackjack game. We were watching football also, so I didn't want to think about heavy calculations and such. So I used it and did quite well.
Well all more advanced counting systems do that. But the K-O system uses what is called an unbalanced count. When you use a balanced count you will always be at 0 on the last card. With an unbalanced count you don't get that.
With the K-O system you up your wagers when you hit a certain number such at +1
Example.......You start your count at -7 when the deck starts. When it hits +1 you then up your wagers. So you don't have to do any calculations. Just do your usual -1, 0 or +1 for each card that comes out.
This is why I tell everyone to start out with the K-O system. You don't have to remember any matrix with tons of numbers in it. Here you have just one simple matrix with A,B, or C in it. Now of course there are some adjustments if you want to get that extra .50% out of it. But I tell everyone to just master the basics of it and worry about the rest later. I mean really, most won't play again or it will be many years before they take another A/C or Vegas trip.
Personally I juse my own count that's a level 3 count. It's a combination of a Uston's Advanced Point Count and mine. I never tell anyone to use this one. For example, here are the numbers I use.
2 = +1
3,4 =+2
5 = +3
6,7 = +2
8 = +1
9 = -1
10 = -3
A = 0
Again I use this because it's very powerful, but very, very difficult. It's just how I learned to begin with, so I have stuck with this level type of system. If I started now I would no doubt use K-O.
There has been another author that has refined K-O even more
BTW, I did use K-O this past weekend at a private Blackjack game. We were watching football also, so I didn't want to think about heavy calculations and such. So I used it and did quite well.
Well all more advanced counting systems do that. But the K-O system uses what is called an unbalanced count. When you use a balanced count you will always be at 0 on the last card. With an unbalanced count you don't get that.
With the K-O system you up your wagers when you hit a certain number such at +1
Example.......You start your count at -7 when the deck starts. When it hits +1 you then up your wagers. So you don't have to do any calculations. Just do your usual -1, 0 or +1 for each card that comes out.
This is why I tell everyone to start out with the K-O system. You don't have to remember any matrix with tons of numbers in it. Here you have just one simple matrix with A,B, or C in it. Now of course there are some adjustments if you want to get that extra .50% out of it. But I tell everyone to just master the basics of it and worry about the rest later. I mean really, most won't play again or it will be many years before they take another A/C or Vegas trip.
Personally I juse my own count that's a level 3 count. It's a combination of a Uston's Advanced Point Count and mine. I never tell anyone to use this one. For example, here are the numbers I use.
2 = +1
3,4 =+2
5 = +3
6,7 = +2
8 = +1
9 = -1
10 = -3
A = 0
Again I use this because it's very powerful, but very, very difficult. It's just how I learned to begin with, so I have stuck with this level type of system. If I started now I would no doubt use K-O.
There has been another author that has refined K-O even more
BTW, I did use K-O this past weekend at a private Blackjack game. We were watching football also, so I didn't want to think about heavy calculations and such. So I used it and did quite well.
The Author of the K-O book is Olaf Vacura, Ph,D. & Ken Fuchs
Of course the Author of the Uston books is Ken Uston.
The Author of the K-O book is Olaf Vacura, Ph,D. & Ken Fuchs
Of course the Author of the Uston books is Ken Uston.
I should of detailed that part of it, sorry about that. I do a seperate side count of the Aces. In counts where you don't do a side count of they will be -1 to a high of -4 for the Revere 14 count. (The guy that started the card counting) Most have them at -1 now.
BTW, Revere's family still sells his systems. Although they can still be used today, they are generally considered obsolete due to unnecessary complexity
I should of detailed that part of it, sorry about that. I do a seperate side count of the Aces. In counts where you don't do a side count of they will be -1 to a high of -4 for the Revere 14 count. (The guy that started the card counting) Most have them at -1 now.
BTW, Revere's family still sells his systems. Although they can still be used today, they are generally considered obsolete due to unnecessary complexity
You think he thought you were counting cards because you were up 250? LOL. I routinley play at 25 dollar tables at ameristar in council bluffs. Ive won over 700 in a session dropped over 1200 in a session and i know a lot of people who have won and lost more than me. Heck the max bet is 500 dollars a hand one win there and theyve won about 3 times what you did. They could care less about 200 dollars. If you were taking the max maybe 10,000 a day which is the max limit there 4 or 5 days a week they might get suspicious. Or like that crew that counted cards that took something like 7 to 10 million dollars from playing blackjack counting cards at casino in las vegas. But going to a casino and taking two hundred and fifty bucks and you think they think your card counting thats crazy. I bet over 200 a hand on many occasions. Casinos pee 200 dollars.
Have to agree with that assessment.
You think he thought you were counting cards because you were up 250? LOL. I routinley play at 25 dollar tables at ameristar in council bluffs. Ive won over 700 in a session dropped over 1200 in a session and i know a lot of people who have won and lost more than me. Heck the max bet is 500 dollars a hand one win there and theyve won about 3 times what you did. They could care less about 200 dollars. If you were taking the max maybe 10,000 a day which is the max limit there 4 or 5 days a week they might get suspicious. Or like that crew that counted cards that took something like 7 to 10 million dollars from playing blackjack counting cards at casino in las vegas. But going to a casino and taking two hundred and fifty bucks and you think they think your card counting thats crazy. I bet over 200 a hand on many occasions. Casinos pee 200 dollars.
Have to agree with that assessment.
Ha ha it's funny how two people see the same event in totally different ways.If and when I draw a crowd I move away...no matter what.. bad mojo comes from galkers.. if you play in hs room they don't allow to many galkers or cheerleaders other than those you bring in.
Ha ha it's funny how two people see the same event in totally different ways.If and when I draw a crowd I move away...no matter what.. bad mojo comes from galkers.. if you play in hs room they don't allow to many galkers or cheerleaders other than those you bring in.
No doubt it can. Casino Verite Blackjack is the go to software for all pro blackjack players and system creators.
No doubt it can. Casino Verite Blackjack is the go to software for all pro blackjack players and system creators.
Well all more advanced counting systems do that. But the K-O system uses what is called an unbalanced count. When you use a balanced count you will always be at 0 on the last card. With an unbalanced count you don't get that.
With the K-O system you up your wagers when you hit a certain number such at +1
Example.......You start your count at -7 when the deck starts. When it hits +1 you then up your wagers. So you don't have to do any calculations. Just do your usual -1, 0 or +1 for each card that comes out.
This is why I tell everyone to start out with the K-O system. You don't have to remember any matrix with tons of numbers in it. Here you have just one simple matrix with A,B, or C in it. Now of course there are some adjustments if you want to get that extra .50% out of it. But I tell everyone to just master the basics of it and worry about the rest later. I mean really, most won't play again or it will be many years before they take another A/C or Vegas trip.
Personally I juse my own count that's a level 3 count. It's a combination of a Uston's Advanced Point Count and mine. I never tell anyone to use this one. For example, here are the numbers I use.
2 = +1
3,4 =+2
5 = +3
6,7 = +2
8 = +1
9 = -1
10 = -3
A = 0
Again I use this because it's very powerful, but very, very difficult. It's just how I learned to begin with, so I have stuck with this level type of system. If I started now I would no doubt use K-O.
There has been another author that has refined K-O even more
BTW, I did use K-O this past weekend at a private Blackjack game. We were watching football also, so I didn't want to think about heavy calculations and such. So I used it and did quite well.
YOU MENTIONED STARTING WITH A NEW DECK START YOUR COUNT WITH -7
IF YOU JUST SHUFFLED AND CUT THE CARDS WHY START WITH -7 AND NOT ZERO
Well all more advanced counting systems do that. But the K-O system uses what is called an unbalanced count. When you use a balanced count you will always be at 0 on the last card. With an unbalanced count you don't get that.
With the K-O system you up your wagers when you hit a certain number such at +1
Example.......You start your count at -7 when the deck starts. When it hits +1 you then up your wagers. So you don't have to do any calculations. Just do your usual -1, 0 or +1 for each card that comes out.
This is why I tell everyone to start out with the K-O system. You don't have to remember any matrix with tons of numbers in it. Here you have just one simple matrix with A,B, or C in it. Now of course there are some adjustments if you want to get that extra .50% out of it. But I tell everyone to just master the basics of it and worry about the rest later. I mean really, most won't play again or it will be many years before they take another A/C or Vegas trip.
Personally I juse my own count that's a level 3 count. It's a combination of a Uston's Advanced Point Count and mine. I never tell anyone to use this one. For example, here are the numbers I use.
2 = +1
3,4 =+2
5 = +3
6,7 = +2
8 = +1
9 = -1
10 = -3
A = 0
Again I use this because it's very powerful, but very, very difficult. It's just how I learned to begin with, so I have stuck with this level type of system. If I started now I would no doubt use K-O.
There has been another author that has refined K-O even more
BTW, I did use K-O this past weekend at a private Blackjack game. We were watching football also, so I didn't want to think about heavy calculations and such. So I used it and did quite well.
YOU MENTIONED STARTING WITH A NEW DECK START YOUR COUNT WITH -7
IF YOU JUST SHUFFLED AND CUT THE CARDS WHY START WITH -7 AND NOT ZERO
Well all more advanced counting systems do that. But the K-O system uses what is called an unbalanced count. When you use a balanced count you will always be at 0 on the last card. With an unbalanced count you don't get that.
With the K-O system you up your wagers when you hit a certain number such at +1
Example.......You start your count at -7 when the deck starts. When it hits +1 you then up your wagers. So you don't have to do any calculations. Just do your usual -1, 0 or +1 for each card that comes out.
This is why I tell everyone to start out with the K-O system. You don't have to remember any matrix with tons of numbers in it. Here you have just one simple matrix with A,B, or C in it. Now of course there are some adjustments if you want to get that extra .50% out of it. But I tell everyone to just master the basics of it and worry about the rest later. I mean really, most won't play again or it will be many years before they take another A/C or Vegas trip.
Personally I juse my own count that's a level 3 count. It's a combination of a Uston's Advanced Point Count and mine. I never tell anyone to use this one. For example, here are the numbers I use.
2 = +1
3,4 =+2
5 = +3
6,7 = +2
8 = +1
9 = -1
10 = -3
A = 0
Again I use this because it's very powerful, but very, very difficult. It's just how I learned to begin with, so I have stuck with this level type of system. If I started now I would no doubt use K-O.
There has been another author that has refined K-O even more
BTW, I did use K-O this past weekend at a private Blackjack game. We were watching football also, so I didn't want to think about heavy calculations and such. So I used it and did quite well.
Well all more advanced counting systems do that. But the K-O system uses what is called an unbalanced count. When you use a balanced count you will always be at 0 on the last card. With an unbalanced count you don't get that.
With the K-O system you up your wagers when you hit a certain number such at +1
Example.......You start your count at -7 when the deck starts. When it hits +1 you then up your wagers. So you don't have to do any calculations. Just do your usual -1, 0 or +1 for each card that comes out.
This is why I tell everyone to start out with the K-O system. You don't have to remember any matrix with tons of numbers in it. Here you have just one simple matrix with A,B, or C in it. Now of course there are some adjustments if you want to get that extra .50% out of it. But I tell everyone to just master the basics of it and worry about the rest later. I mean really, most won't play again or it will be many years before they take another A/C or Vegas trip.
Personally I juse my own count that's a level 3 count. It's a combination of a Uston's Advanced Point Count and mine. I never tell anyone to use this one. For example, here are the numbers I use.
2 = +1
3,4 =+2
5 = +3
6,7 = +2
8 = +1
9 = -1
10 = -3
A = 0
Again I use this because it's very powerful, but very, very difficult. It's just how I learned to begin with, so I have stuck with this level type of system. If I started now I would no doubt use K-O.
There has been another author that has refined K-O even more
BTW, I did use K-O this past weekend at a private Blackjack game. We were watching football also, so I didn't want to think about heavy calculations and such. So I used it and did quite well.
YOU MENTIONED STARTING WITH A NEW DECK START YOUR COUNT WITH -7
IF YOU JUST SHUFFLED AND CUT THE CARDS WHY START WITH -7 AND NOT ZERO
Because it's an unbalanced count. You don't have to worry about doing deck conversions. It you have a count that starts with 0, then that means you are doing conversions with the count divided with decks or half decks left.
YOU MENTIONED STARTING WITH A NEW DECK START YOUR COUNT WITH -7
IF YOU JUST SHUFFLED AND CUT THE CARDS WHY START WITH -7 AND NOT ZERO
Because it's an unbalanced count. You don't have to worry about doing deck conversions. It you have a count that starts with 0, then that means you are doing conversions with the count divided with decks or half decks left.
Don't use my count !!!. Get the KO book and learn that. You will do much better and enjoy counting much more.
Don't use my count !!!. Get the KO book and learn that. You will do much better and enjoy counting much more.
GG,
This made my day !!!!! The side count of aces is very powerful indeed.
Congrats.
GG,
This made my day !!!!! The side count of aces is very powerful indeed.
Congrats.
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