The end of online gambling is near

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Posted: 4/16/2011 12:19:48 AM
My  My My What fools these mortals be ----I cashed out years ago right before the gov't made it illeagle---the states are legalizing it----get with the program
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Posted: 4/16/2011 12:21:16 AM
I suggest reading about Jack Abramoff, if you want to know why the UIGEA passed.

Attaching such a measure to the SAFE Port Act, meant easy passage.
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Posted: 4/16/2011 12:35:38 AM
Retard, eh? Sorry, RichardA, Google HR2267 and "online poker" and you'll see there was an effort to legalize it, to the extent it passed through the House Financial Services Committee, but the clock ran out and the vice squad marauded into power. And with the world financial system teetering on collapse in 2009, I think it's understandable that addressing online poker early in the 111th Congress was not a priority.
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Posted: 4/16/2011 12:38:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardA:

they wasted 7 years and who knows how many millions trying to convict barry bonds, FAIL, but god-dog it, they are bound and determined to shut down those evil books....

 

This post just goes to show how fuckin stupid you are and dont know anything about politics.

It was the republicans that started this whole attack on online gambling. Senator John Kyl and Congressman Bob Goodlatte were the 2 republican dickheads who caused this whole entire garbage to happen. This attack on gambling started in Bush's time in office, so really get your facts straight before you make posts that make you look like a complete jackass.

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QUOTE Originally Posted by Renton2010:

I suggest reading about Jack Abramoff, if you want to know why the UIGEA passed.

Attaching such a measure to the SAFE Port Act, meant easy passage.

Why dont you mention what party did this garbage?  It was the republicans who added it to the port security bill in the middle of the night, because the knew the democrats would have to pass the bill knowing that if they didnt pass the bill the democrats would take the total blame for anything that might happen in the country.

2 friggin piece of garbage republicans were designers of the whole attack on gambling.

Senator John Kyl and Congressman Bob Goodlatte started this whole nightmare. This was all done under Bush's time in office.

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Posted: 4/16/2011 12:50:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by cd329:

Why dont you mention what party did this garbage?  It was the republicans who added it to the port security bill in the middle of the night, because the knew the democrats would have to pass the bill knowing that if they didnt pass the bill the democrats would take the total blame for anything that might happen in the country.

2 friggin piece of garbage republicans were designers of the whole attack on gambling.

Senator John Kyl and Congressman Bob Goodlatte started this whole nightmare. This was all done under Bush's time in office.


I agree, but this isn't really a partisan issue, both parties are at fault for passing the bill.
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Posted: 4/16/2011 12:51:40 AM

Facts are facts. The feds want in to every industry....insurance regulation, heath care,  autos, mortgages, you name it. Obviously because we Americans cannot be depended on to run our own shop.

 Foreign wars are a major industry, and the Feds opened up a new one in the last six weeks by way of Libya.  In the first weekend of US involvement we launched 110 tomahawk missiles...at 1.5 mill per pop, and then deny that we are heading up operations for NATO. News flash, we are NATO. I am pro war when the situation is warranted...but to apply pressure on a 40 year dictator who is an fool to his people?  Tax payer dollars going up in smoke, ironically from the same taxpayers whom watched their poker rolls go up in smoke this evening.  Sweet chin music america, wear that. 

Fannie Mae is now the single largest owner of homes in the United States, not the banks that issued those mortgages.  The mega banks (in concert with the Federal Reserve) take risks that no sane gambler would take...and they have been bailed out..twice...and grumblings of QE 3 are beginning to gain steam, in an attempt to kickstart lending, and avoid the mass dumping of  T-bills that will occur when these very same banks decide to shift liquidities to another currency or currency basket.  

Our economy is tiptoeing, trying not awaken the mighty inflation monster, while we are headed for 5 and 6 dollar gasoline at the pump.  The feds blame small speculators and day traders (I am one) for driving up crude oil prices and suggest that more stringent margin requirements be established in order to keep the price in check and the little guy out....making an asumption that any investor in the crude market with under 50 million of operating capital can move the price 2 cents one way or the other.

The bottom line is politicians need bad guys. Countries need enemies.  So, when 85% of America does not gamble religiously (like I do) and another 10% suck at it and hate themselves for doing it, the fool stick gets pointed right at the 5% whom win more than they lose.

We have been dubbed degenerates, deadbeats whom took out sub prime mortgages and welched, greedy speculators, and now CRIMINALS involved in a CRIMINAL enterprise...and yes associating and doing business with CRIMINALS

I think the debate about the legality of online gaming is over. The feds are coming for it all, I suspect that the players are next.

 I don't even like poker.

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Posted: 4/16/2011 12:56:44 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

Facts are facts. The feds want in to every industry....insurance regulation, heath care,  autos, mortgages, you name it. Obviously because we Americans cannot be depended on to run our own shop.

 Foreign wars are a major industry, and the Feds opened up a new one in the last six weeks by way of Libya.  In the first weekend of US involvement we launched 110 tomahawk missiles...at 1.5 mill per pop, and then deny that we are heading up operations for NATO. News flash, we are NATO. I am pro war when the situation is warranted...but to apply pressure on a 40 year dictator who is an fool to his people?  Tax payer dollars going up in smoke, ironically from the same taxpayers whom watched their poker rolls go up in smoke this evening.  Sweet chin music america, wear that. 

Fannie Mae is now the single largest owner of homes in the United States, not the banks that issued those mortgages.  The mega banks (in concert with the Federal Reserve) take risks that no sane gambler would take...and they have been bailed out..twice...and grumblings of QE 3 are beginning to gain steam, in an attempt to kickstart lending, and avoid the mass dumping of  T-bills that will occur when these very same banks decide to shift liquidities to another currency or currency basket.  

Our economy is tiptoeing, trying not awaken the mighty inflation monster, while we are headed for 5 and 6 dollar gasoline at the pump.  The feds blame small speculators and day traders (I am one) for driving up crude oil prices and suggest that more stringent margin requirements be established in order to keep the price in check and the little guy out....making an asumption that any investor in the crude market with under 50 million of operating capital can move the price 2 cents one way or the other.

The bottom line is politicians need bad guys. Countries need enemies.  So, when 85% of America does not gamble religiously (like I do) and another 10% suck at it and hate themselves for doing it, the fool stick gets pointed right at the 5% whom win more than they lose.

We have been dubbed degenerates, deadbeats whom took out sub prime mortgages and welched, greedy speculators, and now CRIMINALS involved in a CRIMINAL enterprise...and yes associating and doing business with CRIMINALS

I think the debate about the legality of online gaming is over. The feds are coming for it all, I suspect that the players are next.

 I don't even like poker.

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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:05:01 AM
Im curious if anyone is going to withdrawal all of your money from your offshore book as a result of this?
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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:07:24 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Jasontc:

Im curious if anyone is going to withdrawal all of your money from your offshore book as a result of this?
I already have. darn it.
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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:15:50 AM
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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:29:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RickeM:

I already have. darn it.

Im considering doing the same, i just feel uneasy about this whole thing..id like to sit back for a couple months and see if there are any more developments. I might keep a small amount in my account to darn around with but i dont feel comfortable having large amounts of my money offshore at the moment.

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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:39:29 AM

This is a conversation I just had at my book, that I'd prefer to leave unnamed:

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'John'

John: Hello.  How may I assist you?

Me: Hi john, i wanted to just talk to someone about the status of US accounts at your book, after what happened today with some of the premier poker sites being shut down... I was wondering if there was any assurance you could give me that my money will be safe with ----------- (site's name), something along those lines...

John: I can tell you that is safe sir, howeve I dont have a way to prove you this sir.

Me: ok well that's reassuring enough, have you heard anything about the Feds possibly coming after you guys maybe?

John: We have not and should not be affected by this.

John: Not at all sir.

Me: alright thanks for your insight and help john

John: No problem sir, its a pleasure.

 

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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:42:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by drose1:

This is a conversation I just had at my book, that I'd prefer to leave unnamed:

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'John'

John: Hello.  How may I assist you?

Me: Hi john, i wanted to just talk to someone about the status of US accounts at your book, after what happened today with some of the premier poker sites being shut down... I was wondering if there was any assurance you could give me that my money will be safe with ----------- (site's name), something along those lines...

John: I can tell you that is safe sir, howeve I dont have a way to prove you this sir.

Me: ok well that's reassuring enough, have you heard anything about the Feds possibly coming after you guys maybe?

John: We have not and should not be affected by this.

John: Not at all sir.

Me: alright thanks for your insight and help john

John: No problem sir, its a pleasure.

 

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Why do you prefer to leave it unnamed?
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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:42:35 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by drose1:

This is a conversation I just had at my book, that I'd prefer to leave unnamed:

Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'John'

John: Hello.  How may I assist you?

Me: Hi john, i wanted to just talk to someone about the status of US accounts at your book, after what happened today with some of the premier poker sites being shut down... I was wondering if there was any assurance you could give me that my money will be safe with ----------- (site's name), something along those lines...

John: I can tell you that is safe sir, howeve I dont have a way to prove you this sir.

Me: ok well that's reassuring enough, have you heard anything about the Feds possibly coming after you guys maybe?

John: We have not and should not be affected by this.

John: Not at all sir.

Me: alright thanks for your insight and help john

John: No problem sir, its a pleasure.

 

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Nothing really interesting there to me..he said what i would expect them to say, they dont want their clients to be scared to make deposits..another thing, the guy running the chat is one of their lower level customer service reps, management might know a lot more but they aren't going to be sharing that with the hourly employee who runs the live chat.

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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:44:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RickeM:

Why do you prefer to leave it unnamed?

Probably because it's Betus or Sportsbook.com and he doesnt want to get ragged on for playing with them

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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:44:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RickeM:

Why do you prefer to leave it unnamed?

no reason really, just wouldn't really want a rep from the site to see this,,, dumb reason i know

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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:45:50 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Jasontc:

Nothing really interesting there to me..he said what i would expect them to say, they dont want their clients to be scared to make deposits..another thing, the guy running the chat is one of their lower level customer service reps, management might know a lot more but they aren't going to be sharing that with the hourly employee who runs the live chat.

Yeah it's pretty much a run-around, just to impose confidence; I got a decent amount of money in there so I'm a bit worried but I still want to play with it... so I don't know

And nah its neither of those books, it's actually one with not as much populatrity (sp?)

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QUOTE Originally Posted by drose1:

Yeah it's pretty much a run-around, just to impose confidence; I got a decent amount of money in there so I'm a bit worried but I still want to play with it... so I don't know

And nah its neither of those books, it's actually one with not as much populatrity (sp?)

Im in the same situation..i have quite a bit of money in my account and a bit worried but still want to play..i think im going to play for the next 2 days and then on monday start getting it sent back and take a break for a while just to see how this plays out..id go friggin nuts if my book shut down with thousands of dollars of my money in it.

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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:50:47 AM
ya  bc that rep is going to figure out who drose1 is.....
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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:51:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Messier-11:

ya  bc that rep is going to figure out who drose1 is.....

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Posted: 4/16/2011 1:53:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Messier-11:

ya  bc that rep is going to figure out who drose1 is.....

ahh darn you guys

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Derp

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QUOTE Originally Posted by Crowkillers:

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Posted: 4/16/2011 2:42:40 AM
had a chat with my book sportsbook just like drose1

Hello, my name is Janet Bradley. I'll be assisting you today.

Janet Bradley: Hello YOUNGMONEY.

YOUNGMONEY: Hello Janet

YOUNGMONEY: I have a question about withdrawal issues

Janet Bradley: Sure, go ahead.

YOUNGMONEY: i wanted to just talk to someone about the status of US accounts at your book, after what happened today with some of the premier poker sites being shut down... I was wondering if there was any assurance you could give me that my money will be safe with sportsbook.com ???

Janet Bradley: Regarding the recent news of some Internet Gaming Companies encountering legal issues, we can inform you that we have not been affected by these recent events. We will continue to provide a safe and secure gaming experience for our players. Please keep in mind that we offer sports lines and other services as well and that have different policies.

YOUNGMONEY: alright will we receive any email or information if something with the legal issues concerns us within this sportsbook?

Janet Bradley: There is no need for that.

YOUNGMONEY: why, if you don't mind me asking Janet? just curious

Janet Bradley: Because we have nothing to do with their closing, we are different companies not related at all.

YOUNGMONEY: Thank you very much.


*also YOUNGMONEY isn't my name on there i just did it as a Yoke haha 


With that said I will be withdrawing all my funds but keeping a HUNDO cause i gotta chase $$$ like a hard to get female 

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