TCU opened at 18 1/2 and is now down to 14 . TCU is no. 2 is most polls and Minn is projected in the 60's. TCU has 17 returning, including a potential QB Heisman trophy winner. Minn has an inexperienced QB, and not many returnees. I see TCU winning by 21. What am I missing?
TCU opened at 18 1/2 and is now down to 14 . TCU is no. 2 is most polls and Minn is projected in the 60's. TCU has 17 returning, including a potential QB Heisman trophy winner. Minn has an inexperienced QB, and not many returnees. I see TCU winning by 21. What am I missing?
Its a tough matchup. Minnesota is pretty solid at home. They return 7 starter on a solid defense. Like you said, the problem is on offense. Minnesota have very good coaches.
TCU was the best team covering the spread last year, but Minn was also in the top 20 at ATS.
I'm on the -14 TCU side, but i will not put any money on this game cause i thinkTCU will be overconfident.
Its a tough matchup. Minnesota is pretty solid at home. They return 7 starter on a solid defense. Like you said, the problem is on offense. Minnesota have very good coaches.
TCU was the best team covering the spread last year, but Minn was also in the top 20 at ATS.
I'm on the -14 TCU side, but i will not put any money on this game cause i thinkTCU will be overconfident.
TCU won't be overconfident...they got fkd out of the playoff last year. they know that they not only need to win the BIG XI, but also win their OOC games by impressive margins. I think bettors are again disrespecting TCU by pushing this line down, much like they did as only a 7 point spread against my longhorns and single digits against Ole Miss. I think TCU is going to open a can of whoop as$ on the gophers. Everyone thinks that just because Ohio St played aa sloppy game in cold and snowing conditions in Minn in late November, that TCU is going to struggle. I am not buying it. The D's will be relatively even. The difference will be TCU's offense, v a Minn O that lost their star RB and their top 3 WR's. That won't be easy to replace in game 1. I think TCU will roll by 24+...
TCU won't be overconfident...they got fkd out of the playoff last year. they know that they not only need to win the BIG XI, but also win their OOC games by impressive margins. I think bettors are again disrespecting TCU by pushing this line down, much like they did as only a 7 point spread against my longhorns and single digits against Ole Miss. I think TCU is going to open a can of whoop as$ on the gophers. Everyone thinks that just because Ohio St played aa sloppy game in cold and snowing conditions in Minn in late November, that TCU is going to struggle. I am not buying it. The D's will be relatively even. The difference will be TCU's offense, v a Minn O that lost their star RB and their top 3 WR's. That won't be easy to replace in game 1. I think TCU will roll by 24+...
the biggest angle of this game are the two head coaches who best of friends. kill was patterson's best man. they don't want to play this game, didn't want to play last year either. i have no opinion on the side but i'm pounding under. TCU will score, minny won't, TCU will go easy with comfortable lead. check out last year's boxscore as further evidence.
the biggest angle of this game are the two head coaches who best of friends. kill was patterson's best man. they don't want to play this game, didn't want to play last year either. i have no opinion on the side but i'm pounding under. TCU will score, minny won't, TCU will go easy with comfortable lead. check out last year's boxscore as further evidence.
When I first saw this line; I thought of TCU 1st Half -7. Seems like a easy cover for the 1st half for a high powered offense vs Minn with no offense. Then saw some strong picks on Minn +14. Made me withdrew that pick of TCU -7 1st half. Not putting any money on this game. My score prediction TCU 40 Minn 20
When I first saw this line; I thought of TCU 1st Half -7. Seems like a easy cover for the 1st half for a high powered offense vs Minn with no offense. Then saw some strong picks on Minn +14. Made me withdrew that pick of TCU -7 1st half. Not putting any money on this game. My score prediction TCU 40 Minn 20
THIS IS HOW VEGAS WAS BUILT.......kinda sorta *last time we saw the Frogs?.....destroying a (really good) Ole Miss Minny?....fading / beaten up by Mizzou
SO....the Frog magic simply continues over to 2015?......and btw................... Ole Miss NOW sucks?. *it's JUST.....that easy huh?
note: Just like Fla St and Auburn last year....as I was told OVER and OVER here.....> a combined 7-20 ATS in 2014
BUT.....the problem here is how eggzactly does Minny move the ball?......couldn't run LY with an NFL RB (Cobb / 2.5/rush) *QB Leidner only a 51% passer or so (LY 12-26/151...0 TD / 3 INT)......note > he was hurt LY (sprained MCL) > DNP next week
SO....a plodding O that can neither run OR throw? ........ *vs a quick strike O?.......uh-oh
Betting on the Frogs as a ROAD FAVORITE? *covered 2 of last 8
TCU is a much better home team *LY almost lost at Kansas (463-418 TO).....Dana H handed the game over personally at WV (389- 357).....as did T Swoopes (6 TO.....368-290)....Baylor (outgained TCU 782-485) *Frogs are top 5 or so in TO at HOME...but 75th on road note: Minny is the same....
MInny wins by running the ball / milking the clock / forcing TO / leveraging field position with great ST play (top 10/ all back) *their run D wore down late / gave up a ton...so not quite as bad as they seem (week 1 anyway).....secondary is pretty good / but they don't get much pressure..........
a no play IMO.....I can see the Frogs getting up quickly (as TCU backers rush to their computers with the "I told you so's":...) *then falling asleep late.....winning a 35-24 type game.......
The line dropped because the 'opener' was wrong.....a bad line by a weak offshore oddsmaker......16 is maybe the correct opener *Frogs look to be about 15+/- pts better....giving us a 'correct' line of maybe 12'......14 looks right to me
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THIS IS HOW VEGAS WAS BUILT.......kinda sorta *last time we saw the Frogs?.....destroying a (really good) Ole Miss Minny?....fading / beaten up by Mizzou
SO....the Frog magic simply continues over to 2015?......and btw................... Ole Miss NOW sucks?. *it's JUST.....that easy huh?
note: Just like Fla St and Auburn last year....as I was told OVER and OVER here.....> a combined 7-20 ATS in 2014
BUT.....the problem here is how eggzactly does Minny move the ball?......couldn't run LY with an NFL RB (Cobb / 2.5/rush) *QB Leidner only a 51% passer or so (LY 12-26/151...0 TD / 3 INT)......note > he was hurt LY (sprained MCL) > DNP next week
SO....a plodding O that can neither run OR throw? ........ *vs a quick strike O?.......uh-oh
Betting on the Frogs as a ROAD FAVORITE? *covered 2 of last 8
TCU is a much better home team *LY almost lost at Kansas (463-418 TO).....Dana H handed the game over personally at WV (389- 357).....as did T Swoopes (6 TO.....368-290)....Baylor (outgained TCU 782-485) *Frogs are top 5 or so in TO at HOME...but 75th on road note: Minny is the same....
MInny wins by running the ball / milking the clock / forcing TO / leveraging field position with great ST play (top 10/ all back) *their run D wore down late / gave up a ton...so not quite as bad as they seem (week 1 anyway).....secondary is pretty good / but they don't get much pressure..........
a no play IMO.....I can see the Frogs getting up quickly (as TCU backers rush to their computers with the "I told you so's":...) *then falling asleep late.....winning a 35-24 type game.......
The line dropped because the 'opener' was wrong.....a bad line by a weak offshore oddsmaker......16 is maybe the correct opener *Frogs look to be about 15+/- pts better....giving us a 'correct' line of maybe 12'......14 looks right to me
Total is definitely going to attract lots of "over" $$. Can see this going under usually good offenses are "rusty" in game one and prone to errors, good chance they won't be clicking at 100%. Add to the fact, Minnesota's strategy is going to be ball control, pounding the rock, and keeping Boykin off the field by melting clock. Wouldn't be surprised if TCU wins a 28-17 or 24-10 type of game.
Total is definitely going to attract lots of "over" $$. Can see this going under usually good offenses are "rusty" in game one and prone to errors, good chance they won't be clicking at 100%. Add to the fact, Minnesota's strategy is going to be ball control, pounding the rock, and keeping Boykin off the field by melting clock. Wouldn't be surprised if TCU wins a 28-17 or 24-10 type of game.
Lots of great insights on this game, tcu looks really good on paper with boykin among dd returning starters, bcs expectations ect..however if you've watched enough college football, a home dog on national televised with highly ranked coming to their yard is huge. defensively, they will be ready, not to mention most of jerry's soldiers have been together for decades.
Lots of great insights on this game, tcu looks really good on paper with boykin among dd returning starters, bcs expectations ect..however if you've watched enough college football, a home dog on national televised with highly ranked coming to their yard is huge. defensively, they will be ready, not to mention most of jerry's soldiers have been together for decades.
Minn is a running team and TCU is good against the run.
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TCU is good against the run because they are in passing conference. Baylor is one of he few good rushing teams they faced and they ran for 272 yards on TCU. Minny may have the best OL in the Big 10. They'll be able to run on TCU. Especially since the Frogs will be breaking in all new LB's. Plus they simply aren't as good of a team on the road. They have very seldom left Texas in the last few years...
Minn is a running team and TCU is good against the run.
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TCU is good against the run because they are in passing conference. Baylor is one of he few good rushing teams they faced and they ran for 272 yards on TCU. Minny may have the best OL in the Big 10. They'll be able to run on TCU. Especially since the Frogs will be breaking in all new LB's. Plus they simply aren't as good of a team on the road. They have very seldom left Texas in the last few years...
the biggest angle of this game are the two head coaches who best of friends. kill was patterson's best man. they don't want to play this game, didn't want to play last year either. i have no opinion on the side but i'm pounding under. TCU will score, minny won't, TCU will go easy with comfortable lead. check out last year's boxscore as further evidence.
Well, last year they were favored by 17, and won 30-7.................
Although the 30 points was the lowest point total of the year.......
the biggest angle of this game are the two head coaches who best of friends. kill was patterson's best man. they don't want to play this game, didn't want to play last year either. i have no opinion on the side but i'm pounding under. TCU will score, minny won't, TCU will go easy with comfortable lead. check out last year's boxscore as further evidence.
Well, last year they were favored by 17, and won 30-7.................
Although the 30 points was the lowest point total of the year.......
Jerry Kill admitted last winter that they passed down field too much causing Qb sacks and to many incompletes. This year he is putting in more short passes AND some uptempo. How much uptempo is yet to be seen. They still will be a run first team.
I believe the Gophers will take another step in being a better squad. Just not sure how big of step.
Jerry Kill admitted last winter that they passed down field too much causing Qb sacks and to many incompletes. This year he is putting in more short passes AND some uptempo. How much uptempo is yet to be seen. They still will be a run first team.
I believe the Gophers will take another step in being a better squad. Just not sure how big of step.
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