you KNOW it wiseguy! anything jump out to you on those lines? obviously it's EARRRRRRRRLY and I still got homework with Phil Steele but you see anything? Tennessee looked interesting ...
you KNOW it wiseguy! anything jump out to you on those lines? obviously it's EARRRRRRRRLY and I still got homework with Phil Steele but you see anything? Tennessee looked interesting ...
you KNOW it wiseguy! anything jump out to you on those lines? obviously it's EARRRRRRRRLY and I still got homework with Phil Steele but you see anything? Tennessee looked interesting ...
I didn't see any bargains there at those numbers .
I'll wait to see how things develop. I get to hang on to my cash a little while longer that way.
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
you KNOW it wiseguy! anything jump out to you on those lines? obviously it's EARRRRRRRRLY and I still got homework with Phil Steele but you see anything? Tennessee looked interesting ...
I didn't see any bargains there at those numbers .
I'll wait to see how things develop. I get to hang on to my cash a little while longer that way.
Thu 8/28 101 Wake Forest -7½ -120 7:00PM 102 UL Monroe +7½ -120
Mississippi vs Boise State, in Atlanta game must be played before September 3rd for action Thu 8/28 103 Mississippi -8½ -120 8:00PM 104 Boise State +8½ -120
Texas A&M at South Carolina game must be played before September 3rd for action Thu 8/28 105 Texas A&M +9 -120 7:00PM 106 South Carolina -9 -120
Temple at Vanderbilt game must be played before September 3rd for action Thu 8/28 107 Temple +21 -120 7:00PM 108 Vanderbilt -21 -120
BYU at Connecticut game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 201 BYU -14 -120 8:00PM 202 Connecticut +14 -120
Texas San Antonio at Houston U game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 203 Texas San Antonio +9½ -120 9:00PM 204 Houston U
UNLV at Arizona U game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 205 UNLV +25½ -120 10:00PM 206 Arizona U -25½ -120
Colorado State vs Colorado, in Denver game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 207 Colorado State pk -120 7:00PM 208 Colorado pk -120
Bowling Green at Western Kentucky game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 209 Bowling Green -6½ -120 7:00PM 210 Western Kentucky +6½ -120
Penn State vs Central Florida, in Dublin game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 301 Penn State -1 -120 8:30AM 302 Central Florida +1 -120
Sat 8/30 303 Ohio State -14 -120 12:00PM 304 Navy +14 -120
Rice at Notre Dame game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 305 Rice +21 -120 3:30PM 306 Notre Dame -21 -120
West Virginia vs Alabama, in Atlanta game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 307 West Virginia +23½ -120 3:30PM 308 Alabama -23½ -120
Washington U at Hawaii game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 309 Washington U -21½ -120 8:00PM 310 Hawaii +21½ -120
Oklahoma State vs Florida State, in Arlington game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 311 Oklahoma State +13½ -120 8:00PM 312 Florida State -13½ -120
LSU vs Wisconsin, in Houston game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 311 LSU -3 -120 9:00PM 312 Wisconsin +3 -120
Utah State at Tennessee U game must be played before September 3rd for action Sun 8/31 401 Utah State +6½ -120 7:00PM 402 Tennessee U -6½ -120
Miami Florida at Louisville game must be played before September 3rd for action Mon 9/1 501 Miami Florida +3½ -120 8:00PM 502 Louisville -3½ -120
Abilene Christian at Georgia State game must be played before September 3rd for action Wed 8/27 701 Abilene Christian +6 -120 o64½ -120 7:00PM 702 Georgia State -6 -120 u64½ -120
Sam Houston State at Eastern Washington game must be played before August 27th for action Sat 8/23 801 Sam Houston State +7 -120 o71½ -120 3:30PM 802 Eastern Washington -7 -120 u71½ -120
Humble when ambitious - gracious when successful - resilient when you fail.
Thu 8/28 101 Wake Forest -7½ -120 7:00PM 102 UL Monroe +7½ -120
Mississippi vs Boise State, in Atlanta game must be played before September 3rd for action Thu 8/28 103 Mississippi -8½ -120 8:00PM 104 Boise State +8½ -120
Texas A&M at South Carolina game must be played before September 3rd for action Thu 8/28 105 Texas A&M +9 -120 7:00PM 106 South Carolina -9 -120
Temple at Vanderbilt game must be played before September 3rd for action Thu 8/28 107 Temple +21 -120 7:00PM 108 Vanderbilt -21 -120
BYU at Connecticut game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 201 BYU -14 -120 8:00PM 202 Connecticut +14 -120
Texas San Antonio at Houston U game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 203 Texas San Antonio +9½ -120 9:00PM 204 Houston U
UNLV at Arizona U game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 205 UNLV +25½ -120 10:00PM 206 Arizona U -25½ -120
Colorado State vs Colorado, in Denver game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 207 Colorado State pk -120 7:00PM 208 Colorado pk -120
Bowling Green at Western Kentucky game must be played before September 3rd for action Fri 8/29 209 Bowling Green -6½ -120 7:00PM 210 Western Kentucky +6½ -120
Penn State vs Central Florida, in Dublin game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 301 Penn State -1 -120 8:30AM 302 Central Florida +1 -120
Sat 8/30 303 Ohio State -14 -120 12:00PM 304 Navy +14 -120
Rice at Notre Dame game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 305 Rice +21 -120 3:30PM 306 Notre Dame -21 -120
West Virginia vs Alabama, in Atlanta game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 307 West Virginia +23½ -120 3:30PM 308 Alabama -23½ -120
Washington U at Hawaii game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 309 Washington U -21½ -120 8:00PM 310 Hawaii +21½ -120
Oklahoma State vs Florida State, in Arlington game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 311 Oklahoma State +13½ -120 8:00PM 312 Florida State -13½ -120
LSU vs Wisconsin, in Houston game must be played before September 3rd for action Sat 8/30 311 LSU -3 -120 9:00PM 312 Wisconsin +3 -120
Utah State at Tennessee U game must be played before September 3rd for action Sun 8/31 401 Utah State +6½ -120 7:00PM 402 Tennessee U -6½ -120
Miami Florida at Louisville game must be played before September 3rd for action Mon 9/1 501 Miami Florida +3½ -120 8:00PM 502 Louisville -3½ -120
Abilene Christian at Georgia State game must be played before September 3rd for action Wed 8/27 701 Abilene Christian +6 -120 o64½ -120 7:00PM 702 Georgia State -6 -120 u64½ -120
Sam Houston State at Eastern Washington game must be played before August 27th for action Sat 8/23 801 Sam Houston State +7 -120 o71½ -120 3:30PM 802 Eastern Washington -7 -120 u71½ -120
Johnny on the spot, Wiseguy! Thanks for the 411...How's life in paradise?
Hey LH, Island life is fine , but it's time to get ready for football. I 'm hanging out on the Mainland, visiting friends and capping week 1 . Let's get 'em this year !!!
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
Johnny on the spot, Wiseguy! Thanks for the 411...How's life in paradise?
Hey LH, Island life is fine , but it's time to get ready for football. I 'm hanging out on the Mainland, visiting friends and capping week 1 . Let's get 'em this year !!!
BA, Hey Bud ,Thanks for posting those lines. I sure didn't see any bargains there . I agree with your assessment Nice to know we're getting closer to opening day !!! Have you made your first visit to the blood bank yet to build your 'roll ?
Lots of QB and coaching changes this year that need to be looked at before I make any " investments "
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
BA, Hey Bud ,Thanks for posting those lines. I sure didn't see any bargains there . I agree with your assessment Nice to know we're getting closer to opening day !!! Have you made your first visit to the blood bank yet to build your 'roll ?
Lots of QB and coaching changes this year that need to be looked at before I make any " investments "
Yes they are Wiseguy and already starting to look at a few including Bayou Bengals vs Badgers. While 13.5 is quite steep for Noles vs Pokes in Arlington, Ok St lost a lot (14 O lettermen and 15 D lettermen) and do not see them keeping it within single digits here after just looking @ a few angles. At this point, take it all with a grain of salt and as you say a lot of time to think and get at it. Peace!
Yes they are Wiseguy and already starting to look at a few including Bayou Bengals vs Badgers. While 13.5 is quite steep for Noles vs Pokes in Arlington, Ok St lost a lot (14 O lettermen and 15 D lettermen) and do not see them keeping it within single digits here after just looking @ a few angles. At this point, take it all with a grain of salt and as you say a lot of time to think and get at it. Peace!
Locked in West Virginia +23.5, Bama's defense will be shaky (for them) this year.
I don't think Bama's " D " will be the problem , I 'm concerned about Kiffin's play calling ability.. I think they'll win games, but may not cover large double digit point spreads. I'll wait to see what happens in that game.
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
Locked in West Virginia +23.5, Bama's defense will be shaky (for them) this year.
I don't think Bama's " D " will be the problem , I 'm concerned about Kiffin's play calling ability.. I think they'll win games, but may not cover large double digit point spreads. I'll wait to see what happens in that game.
Yes they are Wiseguy and already starting to look at a few including Bayou Bengals vs Badgers. While 13.5 is quite steep for Noles vs Pokes in Arlington, Ok St lost a lot (14 O lettermen and 15 D lettermen) and do not see them keeping it within single digits here after just looking @ a few angles. At this point, take it all with a grain of salt and as you say a lot of time to think and get at it. Peace!
I'm looking forward to Golden Nugget posting their GOY lines the first week in June.By that time I'll have a little more intel on my side of the ledger. That'll also give teams more time to suspend players who screw up in the next 2 months.
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
Yes they are Wiseguy and already starting to look at a few including Bayou Bengals vs Badgers. While 13.5 is quite steep for Noles vs Pokes in Arlington, Ok St lost a lot (14 O lettermen and 15 D lettermen) and do not see them keeping it within single digits here after just looking @ a few angles. At this point, take it all with a grain of salt and as you say a lot of time to think and get at it. Peace!
I'm looking forward to Golden Nugget posting their GOY lines the first week in June.By that time I'll have a little more intel on my side of the ledger. That'll also give teams more time to suspend players who screw up in the next 2 months.
BA, Hey Bud ,Thanks for posting those lines. I sure didn't see any bargains there . I agree with your assessment Nice to know we're getting closer to opening day !!! Have you made your first visit to the blood bank yet to build your 'roll ?
Lots of QB and coaching changes this year that need to be looked at before I make any " investments "
Glad I popped in to see if ANYBODY else was doing anything yet.......... I am nowhere near ready...
off the top of my pumpkin head....
*what if the hell is WF doing laying 7' at ULM ? ULM maybe on slide (13 starters/lose QB)...but WF with new HC....lose 4 yr st QB and best players (bad azz DL Whitlock and top WR in school history)....and top RB ....nasty road trip + HEAT too
Temple showed us they can play a little....(13 St + QB).....Vandy with Ole Miss on deck.....21 maybe too many
I might take Okie St myself ...but that one might go over 14?
Love Bobby P (betting wise) but maybe too soon to be laying 3' to Miami
UGLY road trip for BYU to Storrs.....with Texas on deck
Agree WV (maybe) worthwhile here....but they're fairly weak in the trenches and Saban usually covers these games....somehow *LUCKY COVER LAST YEAR
I reckon you have to look at LSU....big crowd edge.....Miles will have them ready here for sure...Wisky only 8-9 starters or so ....
Humble when ambitious - gracious when successful - resilient when you fail.
BA, Hey Bud ,Thanks for posting those lines. I sure didn't see any bargains there . I agree with your assessment Nice to know we're getting closer to opening day !!! Have you made your first visit to the blood bank yet to build your 'roll ?
Lots of QB and coaching changes this year that need to be looked at before I make any " investments "
Glad I popped in to see if ANYBODY else was doing anything yet.......... I am nowhere near ready...
off the top of my pumpkin head....
*what if the hell is WF doing laying 7' at ULM ? ULM maybe on slide (13 starters/lose QB)...but WF with new HC....lose 4 yr st QB and best players (bad azz DL Whitlock and top WR in school history)....and top RB ....nasty road trip + HEAT too
Temple showed us they can play a little....(13 St + QB).....Vandy with Ole Miss on deck.....21 maybe too many
I might take Okie St myself ...but that one might go over 14?
Love Bobby P (betting wise) but maybe too soon to be laying 3' to Miami
UGLY road trip for BYU to Storrs.....with Texas on deck
Agree WV (maybe) worthwhile here....but they're fairly weak in the trenches and Saban usually covers these games....somehow *LUCKY COVER LAST YEAR
I reckon you have to look at LSU....big crowd edge.....Miles will have them ready here for sure...Wisky only 8-9 starters or so ....
Glad I popped in to see if ANYBODY else was doing anything yet.......... I am nowhere near ready...
off the top of my pumpkin head....
*what if the hell is WF doing laying 7' at ULM ? ULM maybe on slide (13 starters/lose QB)...but WF with new HC....lose 4 yr st QB and best players (bad azz DL Whitlock and top WR in school history)....and top RB ....nasty road trip + HEAT too
Temple showed us they can play a little....(13 St + QB).....Vandy with Ole Miss on deck.....21 maybe too many
I might take Okie St myself ...but that one might go over 14?
Love Bobby P (betting wise) but maybe too soon to be laying 3' to Miami
UGLY road trip for BYU to Storrs.....with Texas on deck
Agree WV (maybe) worthwhile here....but they're fairly weak in the trenches and Saban usually covers these games....somehow *LUCKY COVER LAST YEAR
I reckon you have to look at LSU....big crowd edge.....Miles will have them ready here for sure...Wisky only 8-9 starters or so ....
This year I'm looking to play fewer games, but only play props that offer me a measured " value " for my risk. If I can't get the MOV ( margin of value ) I need to make a play , I'll pass on it. You are right, week 1 lines are not showing me what I need to see to make a play., however 5 Dimes line is not what we will have to bet on in August, so it's best to be patient and wait for opportunity. For me, I'm going to be more disciplined in my approach this year and not risk capital on marginal action . BA, Looking forward to your injuries/ suspensions thread as it provides valuable preseason information .
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
Glad I popped in to see if ANYBODY else was doing anything yet.......... I am nowhere near ready...
off the top of my pumpkin head....
*what if the hell is WF doing laying 7' at ULM ? ULM maybe on slide (13 starters/lose QB)...but WF with new HC....lose 4 yr st QB and best players (bad azz DL Whitlock and top WR in school history)....and top RB ....nasty road trip + HEAT too
Temple showed us they can play a little....(13 St + QB).....Vandy with Ole Miss on deck.....21 maybe too many
I might take Okie St myself ...but that one might go over 14?
Love Bobby P (betting wise) but maybe too soon to be laying 3' to Miami
UGLY road trip for BYU to Storrs.....with Texas on deck
Agree WV (maybe) worthwhile here....but they're fairly weak in the trenches and Saban usually covers these games....somehow *LUCKY COVER LAST YEAR
I reckon you have to look at LSU....big crowd edge.....Miles will have them ready here for sure...Wisky only 8-9 starters or so ....
This year I'm looking to play fewer games, but only play props that offer me a measured " value " for my risk. If I can't get the MOV ( margin of value ) I need to make a play , I'll pass on it. You are right, week 1 lines are not showing me what I need to see to make a play., however 5 Dimes line is not what we will have to bet on in August, so it's best to be patient and wait for opportunity. For me, I'm going to be more disciplined in my approach this year and not risk capital on marginal action . BA, Looking forward to your injuries/ suspensions thread as it provides valuable preseason information .
Glad I popped in to see if ANYBODY else was doing anything yet.......... I am nowhere near ready...
off the top of my pumpkin head....
*what if the hell is WF doing laying 7' at ULM ? ULM maybe on slide (13 starters/lose QB)...but WF with new HC....lose 4 yr st QB and best players (bad azz DL Whitlock and top WR in school history)....and top RB ....nasty road trip + HEAT too
Temple showed us they can play a little....(13 St + QB).....Vandy with Ole Miss on deck.....21 maybe too many
I might take Okie St myself ...but that one might go over 14?
Love Bobby P (betting wise) but maybe too soon to be laying 3' to Miami
UGLY road trip for BYU to Storrs.....with Texas on deck
Agree WV (maybe) worthwhile here....but they're fairly weak in the trenches and Saban usually covers these games....somehow *LUCKY COVER LAST YEAR
I reckon you have to look at LSU....big crowd edge.....Miles will have them ready here for sure...Wisky only 8-9 starters or so ....
I'm looking forward to that matchup
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
Glad I popped in to see if ANYBODY else was doing anything yet.......... I am nowhere near ready...
off the top of my pumpkin head....
*what if the hell is WF doing laying 7' at ULM ? ULM maybe on slide (13 starters/lose QB)...but WF with new HC....lose 4 yr st QB and best players (bad azz DL Whitlock and top WR in school history)....and top RB ....nasty road trip + HEAT too
Temple showed us they can play a little....(13 St + QB).....Vandy with Ole Miss on deck.....21 maybe too many
I might take Okie St myself ...but that one might go over 14?
Love Bobby P (betting wise) but maybe too soon to be laying 3' to Miami
UGLY road trip for BYU to Storrs.....with Texas on deck
Agree WV (maybe) worthwhile here....but they're fairly weak in the trenches and Saban usually covers these games....somehow *LUCKY COVER LAST YEAR
I reckon you have to look at LSU....big crowd edge.....Miles will have them ready here for sure...Wisky only 8-9 starters or so ....
Glad I popped in to see if ANYBODY else was doing anything yet.......... I am nowhere near ready...
off the top of my pumpkin head....
*what if the hell is WF doing laying 7' at ULM ? ULM maybe on slide (13 starters/lose QB)...but WF with new HC....lose 4 yr st QB and best players (bad azz DL Whitlock and top WR in school history)....and top RB ....nasty road trip + HEAT too
Temple showed us they can play a little....(13 St + QB).....Vandy with Ole Miss on deck.....21 maybe too many
I might take Okie St myself ...but that one might go over 14?
Love Bobby P (betting wise) but maybe too soon to be laying 3' to Miami
UGLY road trip for BYU to Storrs.....with Texas on deck
Agree WV (maybe) worthwhile here....but they're fairly weak in the trenches and Saban usually covers these games....somehow *LUCKY COVER LAST YEAR
I reckon you have to look at LSU....big crowd edge.....Miles will have them ready here for sure...Wisky only 8-9 starters or so ....
It will be interesting to see Texas under Charlie Strong. I don't expect immediate improvement on Offense ...... But since Greg Robinson is no longer there , I would expect a significant upgrade on defense. BYU should be a good test for them.
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
Glad I popped in to see if ANYBODY else was doing anything yet.......... I am nowhere near ready...
off the top of my pumpkin head....
*what if the hell is WF doing laying 7' at ULM ? ULM maybe on slide (13 starters/lose QB)...but WF with new HC....lose 4 yr st QB and best players (bad azz DL Whitlock and top WR in school history)....and top RB ....nasty road trip + HEAT too
Temple showed us they can play a little....(13 St + QB).....Vandy with Ole Miss on deck.....21 maybe too many
I might take Okie St myself ...but that one might go over 14?
Love Bobby P (betting wise) but maybe too soon to be laying 3' to Miami
UGLY road trip for BYU to Storrs.....with Texas on deck
Agree WV (maybe) worthwhile here....but they're fairly weak in the trenches and Saban usually covers these games....somehow *LUCKY COVER LAST YEAR
I reckon you have to look at LSU....big crowd edge.....Miles will have them ready here for sure...Wisky only 8-9 starters or so ....
It will be interesting to see Texas under Charlie Strong. I don't expect immediate improvement on Offense ...... But since Greg Robinson is no longer there , I would expect a significant upgrade on defense. BYU should be a good test for them.
It will be interesting to see Texas under Charlie Strong. I don't expect immediate improvement on Offense ...... But since Greg Robinson is no longer there , I would expect a significant upgrade on defense. BYU should be a good test for them.
Texas will be improved ..................................next year anyway
BUT............shaky move by the Horns
POOF!....great bowl games yes.... *we all seem to forget Louisville's play before the bowls.....when (in 2012 mostly) we wondered.....WTF is wrong with these guys?
2012 > his 3rd year with 8/9 starters + top QB *playing #60 or so schedule.....couldn't run ( 2.6 / #115).....stop the run (4.4 / #53) or play ST (#115)...also not big on protecting their star QB (#90)....Bridgewater sacked 97 or so times in 3 years *they struggled BIG TIME in that mighty Big East....his teams seemed to consistently underachieve vs 'lesser' talent *his best D probably was year 1....#2 TD at 4.4/play....270/g
2013 they were tough sure.... but vs the #110 or so schedule....I saw many half-behind efforts yet again....and that's with the BCS title game in their sights (kinda sorta)
PLUS.....when you think about it *a violation on Covers for sure (thinking) Texas fires Mack and now they have the (what) the 6th best coach in the Big 12?.....is that what you want Horn fans? *Patterson still must be considered ahead of CS you bet
Snyder > Stoops > Patterson > Briles > Gundy.....give or take
I like Strong but James Franklin woulda been a better choice...IMO
I will be rooting (hard) for his success.......... *especially in this redneck state I call home..............
Humble when ambitious - gracious when successful - resilient when you fail.
It will be interesting to see Texas under Charlie Strong. I don't expect immediate improvement on Offense ...... But since Greg Robinson is no longer there , I would expect a significant upgrade on defense. BYU should be a good test for them.
Texas will be improved ..................................next year anyway
BUT............shaky move by the Horns
POOF!....great bowl games yes.... *we all seem to forget Louisville's play before the bowls.....when (in 2012 mostly) we wondered.....WTF is wrong with these guys?
2012 > his 3rd year with 8/9 starters + top QB *playing #60 or so schedule.....couldn't run ( 2.6 / #115).....stop the run (4.4 / #53) or play ST (#115)...also not big on protecting their star QB (#90)....Bridgewater sacked 97 or so times in 3 years *they struggled BIG TIME in that mighty Big East....his teams seemed to consistently underachieve vs 'lesser' talent *his best D probably was year 1....#2 TD at 4.4/play....270/g
2013 they were tough sure.... but vs the #110 or so schedule....I saw many half-behind efforts yet again....and that's with the BCS title game in their sights (kinda sorta)
PLUS.....when you think about it *a violation on Covers for sure (thinking) Texas fires Mack and now they have the (what) the 6th best coach in the Big 12?.....is that what you want Horn fans? *Patterson still must be considered ahead of CS you bet
Snyder > Stoops > Patterson > Briles > Gundy.....give or take
I like Strong but James Franklin woulda been a better choice...IMO
I will be rooting (hard) for his success.......... *especially in this redneck state I call home..............
I agree , Franklin would have been a better choice. But it was kinda sad to see the talent on Longhorn teams not reach their potential in recent years, and a change was needed. Franklin probably would have been better at recruiting in that talent rich state as well. Strong will be an upgrade and we'll see how he does. My guess is that the " Horns " will get it right on the next coach that they hire.
Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
I agree , Franklin would have been a better choice. But it was kinda sad to see the talent on Longhorn teams not reach their potential in recent years, and a change was needed. Franklin probably would have been better at recruiting in that talent rich state as well. Strong will be an upgrade and we'll see how he does. My guess is that the " Horns " will get it right on the next coach that they hire.
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