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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:26:28 AM
BigRedGambler... the fact that you have Notre Dame beating Mich St kind of kills your credibility when it comes to analyzing this game...
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:41:22 AM

LOL @ ApocalypseLater - Notre Dame will be better than people give them credit for. 3rd year in Kelly's system. He's recruited well the past 3 years. They will beat (upset) somebody they aren't suppose to (maybe USC????????????)

Guys if Mich ST. are world beaters and have such a great defense and blah blah blah blah than why don't you bet the futures and put your money where your mouth is? Vegas has them on the over and under 8.5 wins. If this team is so good it sounds like this is a gift. Why aren't you betting a $1,000 on it? I already hear your excuse that you don't want to tie your money up for 4 months, but if it's free money than who cares. Let's see some action.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:08:23 AM
I live in Vegas and will be betting more than 1000 on this game and will post my ticket as my profile pic, they will win by dd's in a boring game
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:13:28 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by nickeydyme:

I live in Vegas and will be betting more than 1000 on this game and will post my ticket as my profile pic, they will win by dd's in a boring game

It wont be boring no matter what because it will be the first major football game!!! That being said I hope you are right and it ends up becoming an easier game.

I put my money where my mouth is with mich state and bet them to win the big 10 because I think they play wisconsin in the championship game at least and its a good hedge bet
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:34:26 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BigRedGambler:

LOL @ ApocalypseLater - Notre Dame will be better than people give them credit for. 3rd year in Kelly's system. He's recruited well the past 3 years. They will beat (upset) somebody they aren't suppose to (maybe USC????????????)

Guys if Mich ST. are world beaters and have such a great defense and blah blah blah blah than why don't you bet the futures and put your money where your mouth is? Vegas has them on the over and under 8.5 wins. If this team is so good it sounds like this is a gift. Why aren't you betting a $1,000 on it? I already hear your excuse that you don't want to tie your money up for 4 months, but if it's free money than who cares. Let's see some action.




first... apparently the problem isn't that you under-rate MSU... it's over-rating (BIG TIME) Notre Dame... not only with ND not beat USC, but they will get white-washed... can't tell you what i think of your CFB expertise after you suggested that...


second... who ever said MSU is world-beater?  why do you have to be a world-beater to beat a Boise team that returns NOBODY!?  this is about Boise dropping off as much or more than any team in all of CFB...


third... my money is already where my mouth is, on this game... but futures are a suckers bet, imo... why make a bet that requires you to give the casino your money for 3+ months?  foolish!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:37:16 PM

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1st) I didn't say they WILL beat USC. I said they will upset somebody. They will beat somebody they aren't suppose too. That could be USC or OU. So next time read what I said. I also said Notre Dame will be better than people give them credit for. Again read my post. Everything I am reading on this forum has Notre Dame losing several games. Well I don't see it. I think THEY WILL BE BETTER THAN WHAT PEOPLE ARE GIVING THEM CREDIT FOR. Kelly is a good coach. Now I hate Notre Dame. I personally like seeing them lose, but I do think this is Kelly's best team.

2nd) Read the previous posts. Someone said they see Mich St. winning 10 or 11 games.

3rd) Again read my post. I knew you were going to say that about future bets. But if its a givin then why not bet it? Luckily for me I don't have to put my money up for future bets. My bookie has a website and I don't put any money up. Come Monday if I'm up over $1,000 or down $1,000 than we meet and pay each other. If I'm up or down below $1,000 than it carries over to the next week.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:08:16 PM
Sorry BRG- you are just wrong..

It's fine.. but you're simply wrong..

MSU will have the best D in the conference and another top 5-10 D in the country.. it's OL returns 4/5 of its starters LY and finally has some depth to it.. Bell is projected to be gone after this year (2 star outta HS) and while Maxwell is "new" he's also a RS JR and was an Elite 11 finalist and 4 star coming out of HS.. can't get much better than that in terms of replacing a QB.. Cousins, as much as he led and broke tons of records, wasn't THAT great- look at his game lines- he seemed to own Wisconsin, but outside of those games, he really struggled- played poor vs ND and Neb, OK vs UM/UGA- but really only was truly a solid QB vs Wisconsin..

now, will Maxwell come in and break all his records or throw for 3500 yards?  Of course not- but you have to remember, Maxwell's been throwing to these WR's (Fowler, Sims, etc) for 3 summers now.. I would expect a dropoff- but not a large one, esp. with an increase in the run game
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:32:32 PM
SatNightFever - Let's see over the next couple of years if Mich. State wins 10 games. Replacing your best QB in history that went 4-0 against Michigan won't be easy. Plus Ohio State is about to dominate. Michigan is back and on the rise. When a team rises that typically means somebody falls and that somebody to me is Mich State. Maybe I am wrong, but Mich State just doesn't impress me. Maybe they will have a top 5 defense statistically, but thats only because the Big Easy is so inept on offense. What would their defense do in the BIG 12, Pac 10 and the SEC? Would they be top 10 statistically? How many games would they win?  
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:51:01 PM
Michigan State plays in Big10 not Big Easy?  Thier defense is on par with the top SEC defenses this year.  A program doesn't get built from the top, so what makes you think they are due for a decline?  If any team would be declining it would be Michigan after Denard graduates this year and they completely revamp that team to Brady Hoke's style.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:19:19 PM
I was calling it the Big Easy becuase from top to bottom its the weakest conference. Sec, Big 12, ACC and Pac 10 are better conferences. Michigan won't fall after Shoelace graduates. Hoke is recruiting really well. Devin Gardner is the back up QB. He plays similar to Shoelace but he's bigger. When was the last time the Big 10 won or even played for a National Championship?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:37:58 PM

big ten o/u wins #'s

wis 9.5

osu 9

mich 9

msu 8.5

to listen to u guys, 8.5 is an easy over.  they will have a great defense and an average offense.  vegas has them as 4th best in the conference but whatta they know

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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:18:34 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by buckubad:

big ten o/u wins #'s

wis 9.5

osu 9

mich 9

msu 8.5

to listen to u guys, 8.5 is an easy over.  they will have a great defense and an average offense.  vegas has them as 4th best in the conference but whatta they know



Vegas also had UM and MSU RS wins in 2011 at 7.5..

how'd that work out?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:19:48 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BigRedGambler:

I was calling it the Big Easy becuase from top to bottom its the weakest conference. Sec, Big 12, ACC and Pac 10 are better conferences.


Thanks for making it so easy for me to simply ignore you and your posts now

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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:29:30 PM

SatNight - yeah weren't you the one that came on here last year talking like you know it all and you lost your first 8 games and then you disappeared.? Or no wait that was the 2010 season. 

So tell me smart behind what conference has the Big 10 been better than the last 7 to 10 years? Maybe the ACC?  

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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:48:28 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BigRedGambler:

nickydyme - MSU has zero chance of playing in the NC game. I agree that Dantonio is a good coach, but he's been having success lately when other teams are down. Ohio St and Michigan have been down. Let's see if he can win 11 games again when his 2 biggest rivals have their best football in front of them. The QB Cousins made this offense click the last 2 years. No easy task replacing him. I could see them losing 5 games.

BOISE ST. - TOSS UP

CENT. MICH - WIN

NOTRE DAME - LOSS

EAST MICH - WIN

OHIO STATE - LOSS

INDIANA - WIN

IOWA - WIN

MICHIGAN - LOSS

WISCONSIN - LOSS

NEBRASKA - TOSS UP

NORTHWESTERN - WIN

MINNESOTA - WIN



I totally agree with you on this assessment BigRedGambler.  Team has 0% chance at the title game.  To even suggest it is absurd and laughable.   Notre Dame has owned this team in the last three years, could have easily won 3 straight if not for a miracle fake field back 2 years ago.    Also agree with your schedule assessment.  I think they lose 5 games.  Agree with all the losses, would mark Boise State as a loss, and lean a win versus Nebraska.

People are in for a rude awakening if you think this team will win 10+ games this year or in the future.  It's not happening.  The powers were down for a few years, both Hoke and Meyer are cleaning up on the recruiting trail and Dantanio will be left with the scraps and battling for mid -tier status with Iowa and the like.   It is already showing off the field and will start on the field this year.    

Onto this game, Boise State doesn't lose these type of games.  Both teams are inexperienced.  Peterson is one, if not the brightest offensive mind in the country and has beaten more talented defenses with guys no one has ever heard of.  Sounds familiar.   Michigan State on offense is extremely inexperienced.  80% of offensive production is gone.  As a reference point:  For as successful as Cousins was, he did lose to Central Michigan his first year as starter, at home as 20 point favorites.    The QB has never played a meaningful snap, being in the system doesn't help when you have little to no in game experience.   Boise State has played these supposedly "superior" teams in  games like this has beaten all of them.  Boise State will not be afraid of this game or environment.  Michigan State is not to the caliber of teams/environment Boise State has already  played in and beaten.   Boise State will win this game. 
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:09:44 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by BigRedGambler:

SatNight - yeah weren't you the one that came on here last year talking like you know it all and you lost your first 8 games and then you disappeared.? Or no wait that was the 2010 season. 





Been here for the entire 2010 and 2011 seasons and ended up in the black in both

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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:10:31 PM
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People are in for a rude awakening if you think this team will win 10+ games this year or in the future.  It's not happening.  The powers were down for a few years, both Hoke and Meyer are cleaning up on the recruiting trail and Dantanio will be left with the scraps and battling for mid -tier status with Iowa and the like. 


You sound like a UM homer

Please stop


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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:38:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



You sound like a UM homer

Please stop




 No, just in touch with reality.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:42:36 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:



You sound like a UM homer

Please stop


Michigan has had top twenty recruiting classes or better the last 4 years and still lost to MSU the last four times. And now because they have a top five class they are going to be better. Another Walmart wolverine who doesn't know college football from his behind.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:50:35 PM
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Michigan has had top twenty recruiting classes or better the last 4 years and still lost to MSU the last four times. And now because they have a top five class they are going to be better. Another Walmart wolverine who doesn't know college football from his behind.


Says the guy who had to settle for Michigan State.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 2:40:03 AM
No kirk cousins, no win. Boise st as a team is better. They don't lose big games, sorry.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 7:40:06 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by RonnieBass:



I totally agree with you on this assessment BigRedGambler.  Team has 0% chance at the title game.  To even suggest it is absurd and laughable.   Notre Dame has owned this team in the last three years, could have easily won 3 straight if not for a miracle fake field back 2 years ago.    Also agree with your schedule assessment.  I think they lose 5 games.  Agree with all the losses, would mark Boise State as a loss, and lean a win versus Nebraska.

People are in for a rude awakening if you think this team will win 10+ games this year or in the future.  It's not happening.  The powers were down for a few years, both Hoke and Meyer are cleaning up on the recruiting trail and Dantanio will be left with the scraps and battling for mid -tier status with Iowa and the like.   It is already showing off the field and will start on the field this year.    

Onto this game, Boise State doesn't lose these type of games.  Both teams are inexperienced.  Peterson is one, if not the brightest offensive mind in the country and has beaten more talented defenses with guys no one has ever heard of.  Sounds familiar.   Michigan State on offense is extremely inexperienced.  80% of offensive production is gone.  As a reference point:  For as successful as Cousins was, he did lose to Central Michigan his first year as starter, at home as 20 point favorites.    The QB has never played a meaningful snap, being in the system doesn't help when you have little to no in game experience.   Boise State has played these supposedly "superior" teams in  games like this has beaten all of them.  Boise State will not be afraid of this game or environment.  Michigan State is not to the caliber of teams/environment Boise State has already  played in and beaten.   Boise State will win this game. 



Why did you waste your time typing all of this jibberish when you could've just typed "GO BLUE" like the rest of your crew?  (You sound very, very, very jealous of MSU's recent success)
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Posted: 8/10/2012 7:59:27 AM
Stats and useless stats...boise doesn't lose big games...no bigger game than Nevada 2 years ago or TCU last year...the talent difference is so one-sided in this one...and Michigan state has won 10 of last 15 verse notre dame, so if that is what owning state means I hope more teams do too
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Posted: 8/10/2012 11:06:22 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by RonnieBass:



 No, just in touch with reality.



OK- and if that was the case, you'd see that MSU's recruiting classes have been consistent, if not improved over the past couple of years even with UM's success.. ie- MSU's 2012 class was Dantonio's 2nd highest rated ever at MSU, his 2013 class is on pace to beat that and his 2014 class (granted with only 2 commits, but this early in the process) is on pace to be his best class ever.

So like I said.. you sound like a homer.. or you're not a homer, but you don't know what you are talking about.. either way makes me think you have no clue what you are saying
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Posted: 8/10/2012 11:19:37 AM
i think they cover vs bsu but they are still not going to be the class of the big 10.  4th best is about right on
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