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Posted: 1/20/2012 10:58:17 PM
Which coast is better to wager on?
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Posted: 1/21/2012 4:35:14 AM
West has slight QB edge.
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Posted: 1/21/2012 8:24:59 AM
Yep....its the end of the season alright


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Posted: 1/21/2012 8:59:33 AM
in these games usually the under is a good bet because the qbs and receivers have not played together.same for O-line blocking assignments. good luck
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Posted: 1/21/2012 9:28:51 AM

going with the west, liking their skill players QB, RB and WR better

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Posted: 1/21/2012 9:39:40 AM

Persa, Harnish, and Hansen. GO WEST!

 

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Posted: 1/21/2012 10:29:27 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by nostradamus12:

going with the west, liking their skill players QB, RB and WR better



I had a hunch you could be found in this thread.......

Agreed .....West seems to have the better players....especially at skill positions....

TE/WR group actually not bad at all
    TE > Paulson, Ducks......Koger, Mich....Bryan,NCSt
    WR > Childs and Wright, Hogs...Hemingway,Mich
Shoemaker,Boise......and Hanks,Bama

RB's > Tyler,USC...Creer,La Tech....the great Bobby Rainey, WKU

QB's > Persa.....Harnish.......and Hansen,Col


*East QB's may have easier adjustment to pro-style O.....in Gators  Brantley..... and Tenn-Chat's BJ Coleman (most NFL ready?).....Austin Davis the other

East has won last 3.....25-8...13-10...24-19

better talent than what you might think in this game.....
LY 75 or so (out of 100 players)...finished this season on an NFL roster 


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Posted: 1/21/2012 10:31:26 AM
only thing....West is coached by BRAD CHILDRESS...

East by 96 yr old Bobby Ross....so prepare to be riveted
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Posted: 1/21/2012 10:41:41 AM
does any of you mate know where I can see the past scores and stats?
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Posted: 1/21/2012 11:11:57 AM
most interesting game today may be the ....
ASTRO-TURF NFLPA COLLEGIATE BOWL......

*as since underclassmen are invited too....NFL scouts can't go to practices or the game.....huh?
1st few days many guys worked out without non-essentials.......like helmets and shoulder pads.....
*so expect a thrill a minute here.....

Nationals seem to have a slight edge...
GJ Kinne .....and Jacory Harris at QB........

Americans....that Bo Levi Mitchell (SMU > E Wash).....and........are you ready?.............











Jarrett Lee !.......guess what he has stunk in practice

Nationals also have RB's Weaver (UCF).....Beall (Hou).....and that Antwon Bailey (Cuse)....and good K in Eric Folk (Wash)
Americans do have WR's Tuinei (Ducks)....and Keith Nichol (Mich St).....and that BLM can wing it pretty good....so they might do some damage
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Posted: 1/21/2012 11:13:03 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by KktdocT:

does any of you mate know where I can see the past scores and stats?


wikipedia......and official website
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Posted: 1/21/2012 12:02:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by FrankieNapp:

Persa, Harnish, and Hansen. GO WEST!

 

Good Luck.

 

Remember,this is a game for players to display their pro-style talents for NFL scouts Persa and Harnish are both pure spread QBs that are going to have to totally adjust their style with only one week of practice.I expect Persa to do very little in this game (is he even 100% healthy?),and I don't know if Harnish has ever even taken a snap from center during his entire career.Hansen on the other hand has played in a pro style offense since high school but from what I've seen of him he was definitely the last of the six QBs invited to play in this game.

 The East has the best NFL ready QB by far in B.J.Coleman.He has the size,arm,and skills to play on sundays and is the only one of these QBs that is guaranteed to be drafted at all.John Brantley is comfortable in the pocket as well but I don't know if he has the arm to make some of the deeper throws against NFL talent.Austin Davis' skills pretty much mirror Harnish's for this game.I often wonder how many more games the Vols would have won during the last three years if B.J.didn't transfer when Cutcliffe left Knoxville to take the Duke job.

 As far as RBs are concerned the East also has  the best pro prospect in Tauren Poole who has apparently had an unbelievable week of practice (he finally had a decent o-line to run behind).I would say that Meggett (E) and Rainey (W) are clones of each other and Tyler (W) and Creer (W) are both far better than Morris (E).How did a 5-10 slow guy get invited to this game?

 The West has the speed at WR with Wright,,and Wylie but the East has the better possession type receivers in Cunningham,Lewis,and Tim Benford (who I have never heard of),but  apparently he has run perfect routes this week and has yet to drop a pass.

QB - Edge to East

RB - Even

WR - Slight edge to West

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Posted: 1/21/2012 12:32:48 PM
i like the over 38.5 think it will be a wide open game so the over has a good chance of cashing. low total gl with your plays
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Posted: 1/21/2012 1:11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KktdocT:

does any of you mate know where I can see the past scores and stats?

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot/scores/live/match33002.htm

 

After reading more practice reports from different sources,it seems that the two most impressive defensive players this past week have both been from the East squad in CB-Josh Norman (Coastal Carolina) and DT-Tavian Robertson (South Carolina).

 So I'm placing a small wager on the East +1 1/2.

In a perfect world Harnish and/or Persa will not be comfortable with the five or seven step drop,they will feel pressure from Robertson,panic,and throw a pick 6 to Norman.

 Good Lck Everyone!  

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Posted: 1/21/2012 2:34:30 PM
only a total degenerate  gambler would ever lay a cent on these games
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Posted: 1/21/2012 3:09:31 PM

Wow I just found the most detailed day by day practice report and summary that I could ever imagine.Here are some updated notes.The list is NOT mine but the comments beside the school are.

Here is my list of players who look like they just don't have the talent to compete with most of the guys down here, let alone the NFL talent level:

1) S NICK SUKAY, PENN STATE (E) will probably see time at LB instead of S
2) WR KEVIN HARDY, CITADEL (E) pure speed only,was already looking at not much PT.
3) CB CHARLES BROWN, UNC (E) He has a ton of talented players in front of him
4) RB ALFRED MORRIS, FLORIDA ATLANTIC (E) just as I expected
5) QB TYLER HANSEN, COLORADO (W) just as I expected
6) DE ARNAUD NADON, LAVAL (W)
7) C MOE PETRUS, UCONN (W)
8) OG BEN HEENAN, SASKATCHEWAN (W)
9) OG JOSH LERIBEUS, SMU (W) seems to be alot of OL that can't play on the West squad
10) DE JUSTIN FRANCIS, RUTGERS (W) second DE from the West to make this list
11) WR JUNIOR HEMINGWAY, MICHIGAN (W) a bit of a surprise to me
12) SS DUKE IHENACHO, SAN JOSE STATE (W)

 

More to come....

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Posted: 1/21/2012 3:28:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DT3324:

only a total degenerate  gambler would ever lay a cent on these games

 

There is the typical post in these types games. It never fails. You're cracking my shell, bro....what the hell are you doing in this forum if this is the only game going today?

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Posted: 1/21/2012 3:31:06 PM

After everything that I've read the under is looking like a sure thing.

ALL 6 QBs have been unimpressive.The following is just cut and paste stuff;

WEST- We'll see what tomorrow brings but it sure looks to me like this squad will be severely challenged to move the ball and score in the game Saturday. None of the 3 QBs has shown any consistency in finding open receivers downfield and making accurate throws time after time. Maybe someone will emerge, but I'm just not sure I see any of them having a major impact on the game unless Northwestern’s Dan Persa can scramble and loosen things up. It also appears to me that Northern Illinois QB Chandler Harnish may be suffering some after effects of the ankle injury he suffered in the team’s bowl game earlier this month.

EAST - If the East offense scores this weekend it probably won't be because of a long sustained drive led by one of their 3 QBs. None of the three has been consistent in any phase of their game. The best overall looking guy has been Chattanooga’s B.J. Coleman, but his reading of the field and his throwing accuracy range from mediocre to bad. He looks so far like the kind of guy who would need a shotgun to go bird hunting. Meanwhile, Florida QB John Brantley just continues to struggle with ball control, footwork and his throwing in general, while Southern Mississippi‘s Austin Davis may ultimately be the most effective for this game because he's more mobile, and can move the pocket at least a bit, but his arm and decision-making under pressure is only mediocre.

 

Without a doubt the most entertaining coach to watch during he practice week was West offensive line coach Mark Mangino. He's vocal, animated, demanding and really tries to teach his charges every single day. Even though we laugh at his physique I sure wish he could find a way to get his weight under control and live longer than he's likely to now. Good luck Mark.

West head coach Brad Childress got an unpleasant surprise this afternoon when the skies opened up 5 minutes into warm-ups for his West squad and the rain continued pretty much through the rest of the practice. It wasn't exactly a deluge, but for this time of year in Florida, that is our dry season, it was a lengthy field soaking rain and complicated the team‘s workout which ultimately was cut short by about 20 minutes.

The West WR corps has not been very impressive to date. Based on the scrimmage portion of the session it appears the West offense will revolve around dink and dunk passes both inside and out. In fact I felt like the TEs were actually running some deeper routes than the WRs through much of this practice.

Under the category coming out of nowhere to getting some serious attention from pro scouts add the name TE Chase Ford of Miami.

 

 

 

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Posted: 1/21/2012 3:48:12 PM

I stated earlier that Taure Poole had the best week of practice among the RBs but several sites like Marc Tyler as much or more.

 Every source that I have seen has Coastal Carolina CB Josh Norman as the most impressive player and most have fellow East DBs Micah Pellerin,Christian Thompson,and Justin Bethel all in their top performers list.

But the biggest star of all these small school DBs has been Coastal Carolina CB Josn Norman, whot everyone's attention on Monday morning during the weigh-in when he showed a solid, athletic body that measured in at 6-0, 203. And Norman has been handling receivers in every drill at practice. Plus, he has that air of quiet confidence that has been noticeable every day. He doesn't brag, he doesn't strut, but he radiates an attitude that says don't mess with me. Indeed, NFL.com guru Mike Mayock, who is in St.Petersburg this week, not Jacksonville, is already in high praise of him in a video breakdown. This young man has a chance to become a second day pick if this keeps up and he impresses at the combine.

 One final note, we've had so many games decided by the kicking game this year that it would be foolish not to look at the Ks. The East will have the #1 rated K prospect in the 2012 NFL draft in Blair Walsh. The West K is not in any top 10 list that I saw.

 

 

 

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Posted: 1/21/2012 3:53:39 PM
Who are the starting QBs??? thinking about a 1stQ bet...
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Posted: 1/21/2012 4:32:21 PM
Wow after his first two drives of the 1st quarter,B.J. Coleman is 6/6-136 -1-0 and has generated 10 points. 
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Anybody got a link?

NFL Network or http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=320213147

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Posted: 1/21/2012 5:07:18 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by -29-:

NFL Network or http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=320213147



Thanks.  Looks like no line for the NFLPA bowl?
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http://www.firstrow.tv/watch/49037/1/watch-nfl-network.html
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