Value is with bama win or lose

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Posted: 1/8/2012 3:31:53 PM
If bama would of won the first game. Which they should have. You would have to lay -4 to -6 to get bama tomorrow.  Win or lose bama has the value in this game.  Good luck all



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Posted: 1/8/2012 3:34:23 PM

But, they lost at HOME.

I see more value with LSU on a neutral field on turf

Why "SHOULD" Bama have won???

Because they got inside the 18 yd line 1 time???  Compared to LSU doing it 3 times???

Or, because Bama gained 56 more yards??

 

 

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Posted: 1/8/2012 3:36:39 PM
Pack, AL outplayed LSU that night. If Barrett Jones doesn't get hurt I think Things are different.  Good luck if you bet LSU.  


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Posted: 1/8/2012 3:38:29 PM
Like I said win or lose value is with bama in this game.  If bama would of won and you could get LSU at +6.  LSU would have the value In my opinion 
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Posted: 1/8/2012 3:48:06 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rhslurve6:

Pack, AL outplayed LSU that night. If Barrett Jones doesn't get hurt I think Things are different.  Good luck if you bet LSU.  


 

But, explain how they outpayed them???

Bama had 56 more yards.

LSU ran 9 more red-zone plays than Bama.

Plus, LEE was the QB.  Lee wont see the field Monday. 

Much different team with Jefferson.

Bama doesnt have the home field.

LSU much faster on turf.

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Posted: 1/8/2012 3:52:43 PM
HOLY garbage ...these Bama homers.......

One of you explain really the ONLY question(s)...

you had the wild behind...no coaching led Cajuns AT HOME....and you CHOKED...
     *missed FG's forget it....negative plays + very untimely penalties ...is what put you in those poor positions in the first place............> choke job

Now you're on the road.....so you're not gonna choke this time?........WHY?

You were OUT-COACHED the first time.......what reason will you NOT get out-coached....yet AGAIN?
   *can't defend the lead/speed option ?.....struggle to get off blocks?.....see Ga Southern game....are your (many) NFL players trying to protect themselves????

Why did you not get your garbage together the first time?....IF...you were/are the better team?
    *what exactly were you waiting on?  


AGAIN....by choking I'm talking about when you had the ball inside LSU 30 or so (7 times?).....you immediately started fuckin' up.....silly play calls to penalties to - plays.......then put it on the shoulders of a bad K to win it?........wtf?.....> a LOSER mentality..."hey we were the better team !.....we'll show you NEXT time!"......
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Posted: 1/8/2012 3:53:58 PM
AL has just as many five stars as LSU. I don't see much of a speed difference between both teams. LSU may have a little more but AL can make it up with their strength. They are more physical than LSU.  

AL moved the ball in my opinion much easier than LSU.  Yes LSU did a good job making AL drive the field. That was the reason AL didn't put more points on the board. It may happen again. But I'm taking the value and AL has the value in this game
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Posted: 1/8/2012 3:58:41 PM
Bookie assassin yes I agree we were out coached.  Some of the decisions were suspect by Saban. I do think the pressure got to all the coaches in the first meeting.  I mean your at home suppose to win!  LSU was playing with house money in the first matchup on the road.  Good luck with your LSU bet
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Posted: 1/8/2012 4:11:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rhslurve6:

Bookie assassin yes I agree we were out coached.  Some of the decisions were suspect by Saban. I do think the pressure got to all the coaches in the first meeting.  I mean your at home suppose to win!  LSU was playing with house money in the first matchup on the road.  Good luck with your LSU bet


don't like LSU....just many questions for Bama homers with all these excuses

*unlike pretty much everyone else on Covers....it seems......I have no team and can talk CFB without all this silly emotion.....
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Posted: 1/8/2012 4:15:37 PM
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don't like LSU....just many questions for Bama homers with all these excuses

*unlike pretty much everyone else on Covers....it seems......I have no team and can talk CFB without all this silly emotion.....

Understand.  Not saying AL will win or it's a lock or something.  Just saying the value is with bama in this matchup. If AL would of won the first matchup.  I think we both can agree that the game could of went either way.  You would be laying -6 with bama in my opinion. -4 at worse
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Posted: 1/8/2012 4:15:37 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

HOLY garbage ...these Bama homers.......

One of you explain really the ONLY question(s)...

you had the wild behind...no coaching led Cajuns AT HOME....and you CHOKED...
     *missed FG's forget it....negative plays + very untimely penalties ...is what put you in those poor positions in the first place............> choke job

Now you're on the road.....so you're not gonna choke this time?........WHY?

You were OUT-COACHED the first time.......what reason will you NOT get out-coached....yet AGAIN?
   *can't defend the lead/speed option ?.....struggle to get off blocks?.....see Ga Southern game....are your (many) NFL players trying to protect themselves????

Why did you not get your garbage together the first time?....IF...you were/are the better team?
    *what exactly were you waiting on?  


AGAIN....by choking I'm talking about when you had the ball inside LSU 30 or so (7 times?).....you immediately started fuckin' up.....silly play calls to penalties to - plays.......then put it on the shoulders of a bad K to win it?........wtf?.....> a LOSER mentality..."hey we were the better team !.....we'll show you NEXT time!"......

You said it... We screwed up in the first game... We know what we are capable of, and to asume that everything will go the same this time around, isn't very smart. 
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Posted: 1/8/2012 4:46:01 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rhslurve6:


Understand.  Not saying AL will win or it's a lock or something.  Just saying the value is with bama in this matchup. If AL would of won the first matchup.  I think we both can agree that the game could of went either way.  You would be laying -6 with bama in my opinion. -4 at worse


In the first game, Alabama was at home and were giving 4. No matter how you slice it, the game was down the stretch even. Why would Alabama be giving up more away from the home field advantage?
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Posted: 1/8/2012 4:50:36 PM
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In the first game, Alabama was at home and were giving 4. No matter how you slice it, the game was down the stretch even. Why would Alabama be giving up more away from the home field advantage?

Because of public perception.  The same thing that LSU is getting right now with the line only at AL -2.  Which started at LSU -1.  If AL would of won the line would of opened AL -3 and be bet up by game time.  
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Posted: 1/8/2012 5:00:12 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rhslurve6:


Because of public perception.  The same thing that LSU is getting right now with the line only at AL -2.  Which started at LSU -1.  If AL would of won the line would of opened AL -3 and be bet up by game time.  


If anything, you are getting value with LSU. 1st, Alabama has the greater fanbase and is more of a public team. 2nd, there is a public perception that Alabama outplayed LSU in the first game.

Now you can get an undefeated team that has already beat their opponent at their house previously.... and you can get them as the underdog.
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Posted: 1/8/2012 5:11:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by gamblingallday:



If anything, you are getting value with LSU. 1st, Alabama has the greater fanbase and is more of a public team. 2nd, there is a public perception that Alabama outplayed LSU in the first game.

Now you can get an undefeated team that has already beat their opponent at their house previously.... and you can get them as the underdog.

My point is you are getting value with bama.  If bama would of won you would have to lay -6 probably. I don't know who is going to win.  Honestly think game can go either way.  So taking the value with bama.  Me personally I am only putting $200 straight on bama.  I already have AL +9 for $500 to finish off a 10 point teaser and LSU +11 for $500 to finish off another 10 point teaser.  
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Posted: 1/8/2012 5:13:00 PM
QUOTE

Originally Posted by gamblingallday:



If anything, you are getting value with LSU. 1st, Alabama has the greater fanbase and is more of a public team. 2nd, there is a public perception that Alabama outplayed LSU in the first game.

Now you can get an undefeated team that has already beat their opponent at their house previously.... and you can get them as the underdog.

 

Its impossible having a debate with a Bama fan.

Even when they are completely wrong, they wull continue and continue to stat their words. 

Im a Packer homer, but will admit things.  Like great value with NY next week.

Its laughable for people to think Bama has the value. 

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Posted: 1/8/2012 5:15:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

 

Its impossible having a debate with a Bama fan.

Even when they are completely wrong, they wull continue and continue to stat their words. 

Im a Packer homer, but will admit things.  Like great value with NY next week.

Its laughable for people to think Bama has the value. 


Good luck with your bet Pack.  I don't get on these sites to have Internet spats.  Just stating my opinion.  
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Posted: 1/8/2012 5:15:59 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rhslurve6:


Good luck with your bet Pack.  I don't get on these sites to have Internet spats.  Just stating my opinion.  

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Posted: 1/8/2012 9:49:01 PM
rhslurve6-  You have a great point.  The Value is with the Tide in this game.  People will think what your saying is homer-ish but, point is if you can get this game at a pick or -1 then the you can't go wrong with Bama.

I actually LOVE Bama in this game.  Saban won't lose a second time in a row to this team or this coach, even tho the first game he made some big mistakes.  

If the books realy liked LSU to win, they would have them favored by 3.  Something is fishy.  Roll tide to the bank.
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Posted: 1/8/2012 10:12:34 PM

Why do Alabama fans continue to say "but we outplayed them the first time and we should have won the game"

FACT- YOU LOST DEAL WITH IT - END OF STORY

Now i feel better. I have never seen such a bunch of whiny behind losers in all my life. Not one person except for Tappy has given LSU any props. LSU made the plays when they had to. LSU won the game. If Alabama wins this game i will tip my hat to them. But i damn well won't cry about how LSU "should" have won if they lose. It's incredible that at least 100 people on this site have said the same thing. Really a bunch of elitist and Saban fanboys.

It should be a good game and whoever wins is the better team period.

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Posted: 1/8/2012 10:29:01 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rhslurve6:

Bookie assassin yes I agree we were out coached.  Some of the decisions were suspect by Saban. I do think the pressure got to all the coaches in the first meeting.  I mean your at home suppose to win!  LSU was playing with house money in the first matchup on the road.  Good luck with your LSU bet


LSU was playing with house money?  How absurd to make such a statement.  Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Undefeated team having a special season as an underdog to a team they already defeated on the road this season.  I think the majority would say value lies elsewhere than bama.
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Posted: 1/8/2012 10:34:22 PM

Atl4tigerfan-

My thoughts exactly!

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Posted: 1/8/2012 11:21:33 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by rhslurve6:


My point is you are getting value with bama.  If bama would of won you would have to lay -6 probably. I don't know who is going to win.  Honestly think game can go either way.  So taking the value with bama.  Me personally I am only putting $200 straight on bama.  I already have AL +9 for $500 to finish off a 10 point teaser and LSU +11 for $500 to finish off another 10 point teaser.  

thats what I cant just understand.  How do you think you are getting value with Alabama??????  You keep saying if they would have won LSU would be getting 6 points.  Big effin deal, they didnt win so that point is worthless.  Bottom line is LSU beat Bama at home, and now they are getting points, thats where the value is

 

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Posted: 1/9/2012 10:00:33 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by madh4ttr:

thats what I cant just understand.  How do you think you are getting value with Alabama??????  You keep saying if they would have won LSU would be getting 6 points.  Big effin deal, they didnt win so that point is worthless.  Bottom line is LSU beat Bama at home, and now they are getting points, thats where the value is

 

All of you are not getting my point.  My point is that if AL would of won the first matchup.  Which could of went either way!  You would be laying -6 to get bama today.  How do you not understand this?   That is why I say the value is with AL.  If it was the other way around and AL did win the first matchup.  LSU would have the value in this matchup because you could get +6 probably.

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Posted: 1/9/2012 10:34:02 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

 

But, explain how they outpayed them???

Bama had 56 more yards.

LSU ran 9 more red-zone plays than Bama.

Plus, LEE was the QB.  Lee wont see the field Monday. 

Much different team with Jefferson.

Bama doesnt have the home field.

LSU much faster on turf.


Thee following is why LSU wins:

http://www.thetowntalk.com/article/20120109/SPORTS/201090320/Jefferson-could-complete-LSU-career-national-title
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