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Author:	[MLB Betting] Topic: You must ask yourself "Why did the Linesmaker say LAA will win tonight"
KingScorpio	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
MVP Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 17002 Location: Nevada	#1 Posted: 7/22/2012 6:56:33 PM Texas has more wins 57 to 51 Texas has better pitcher Harrison 12-4 2.87 era on the season Harrison 8-2 2.76 era on the road Texas is 8-2 in Harrison's road starts Dan Haren is just going off the disabled list Haren is 6-8 4.86 era on the season Haren is 2-5 4.53 at home Angels are 2-7 in Haren's home starts Yet the linesmaker said on the last game of the night.That the Angels are going to win by making them the opening line favorite. Now why would anybody argue with the linesmaker ???? Do they honestly think they know more than L.V.S.C. ????
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165yds	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: May 2007 Posts: 11566 Location: United States	#2 Posted: 7/22/2012 6:58:48 PM Angels opened as the fav and now is the dog when it's the only game of the night. There's nothing left to say.
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spocsstocks	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Rookie Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 966 Location: Iowa	#3 Posted: 7/22/2012 6:59:02 PM harrison is 1-1 4.97 era against angels this year and 3-3 4.53 in his career pujos trout and company will put a beating on the rangers
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SJSharks99	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9065 Location: California	#4 Posted: 7/22/2012 6:59:45 PM The line is right... vegas wants money on both sides. You couldn't possibly make Texas a HUGE favorite or else plenty of people would take a good Angels team for good + money. You couldn't possibly make the Angels a HUGE favorite with Dan Haren taking the mound vs Harrison. The line is perfect and welcomes money on both sides.
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bhawksfan	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1585 Location:	#5 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:01:28 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by SJSharks99: The line is right... vegas wants money on both sides. You couldn't possibly make Texas a HUGE favorite or else plenty of people would take a good Angels team for good + money. You couldn't possibly make the Angels a HUGE favorite with Dan Haren taking the mound vs Harrison. The line is perfect and welcomes money on both sides. With this line, everyone is going to be on texas hard and heavy.
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PlaysnPays	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Banned Joined: May 2012 Posts: 294 Location: United States	#6 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:01:46 PM I think the better bet is the over. Don't over think this one, like Spoc said Harrison has a spotty era against the angels, and Haren is not going to be on his A game, should fly over the total if you ask me...
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SJSharks99	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9065 Location: California	#7 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:03:00 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by bhawksfan: With this line, everyone is going to be on texas hard and heavy. plenty of people will take the Angels for + money at home
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KingScorpio	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
MVP Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 17002 Location: Nevada	#8 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:03:02 PM S.J. The problem with your theory is that TEX is being onesided on the betting front.
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Captain Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 8425 Location: Michigan	#9 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:04:01 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by PlaysnPays: I think the better bet is the over. Don't over think this one, like Spoc said Harrison has a spotty era against the angels, and Haren is not going to be on his A game, should fly over the total if you ask me... Yeah but why is the Over 8 at +100 and the Under 8 at -120?
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Banned Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 5196 Location: Texas	#10 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:05:22 PM Are you trying to impress us with your knowledge King Scorpio? I'm not impressed, as Sharks said the goal of oddsmakers is to entice equal amounts of action on each side... Come on man you're smarter than to post this
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Pasteur	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Veteran Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 1887 Location: North Carolina	#11 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:05:45 PM Sometimes Vegas gives out a gift to the public every now and then. It's good for long term business because it let's the public think they can "beat" vegas.
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SJSharks99	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Captain Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 9065 Location: California	#12 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:06:06 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by KingScorpio: S.J. The problem with your theory is that TEX is being onesided on the betting front. Texas is always gonna be a heavy side. They are a huge money making team for a couple years now.
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Prospect Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 146 Location:	#13 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:06:09 PM just throwing my two cents in.... the ump (emmel) is like 18 over vs 1 under in games he has been behind the plate this season
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165yds	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
All-Star Joined: May 2007 Posts: 11566 Location: United States	#14 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:11:49 PM Yeah but why is the Over 8 at +100 and the Under 8 at -120? For the same reason the Rox/SD game was -135 under 7.5.
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Pasteur	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Veteran Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 1887 Location: North Carolina	#15 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:12:22 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by txtechpika: Are you trying to impress us with your knowledge King Scorpio? I'm not impressed, as Sharks said the goal of oddsmakers is to entice equal amounts of action on each side... Come on man you're smarter than to post this This used to be the oddsmakers goal. Vegas has gotten a ton more sophisticated since then, and they now more often than not induce action on the side they want action on. They'll pay out games they expect to pay out and rake on games they expect to rake 90% of the time.
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KingScorpio	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
MVP Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 17002 Location: Nevada	#16 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:13:15 PM Pastuer,What you say is true.Problem is - This is the last game of the week.Bettors must square away their weekly accounts after tonight's game.Not the time for Vegas to be giving away free money.
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Pasteur	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: 5Dimes \|
Veteran Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 1887 Location: North Carolina	#17 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:15:43 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by KingScorpio: Pastuer,What you say is true.Problem is - This is the last game of the week.Bettors must square away their weekly accounts after tonight's game.Not the time for Vegas to be giving away free money. If that's true then the Over 8 is likely the gift and Angels ML the rake. I'm sure vegas books more action on sides than totals and can afford to give away the over.
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Veteran Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1585 Location:	#18 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:16:47 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by txtechpika: Are you trying to impress us with your knowledge King Scorpio? I'm not impressed, as Sharks said the goal of oddsmakers is to entice equal amounts of action on each side... Come on man you're smarter than to post this So the oddsmakers are enticing equal action when texas opens as underdogs for this game? Harrisson has given up less runs in his last 10 games than Haren has in his last 2, Texas offense>Angels offense in every single statistical catergoy, how is that drawing equal action?
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KingScorpio	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
MVP Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 17002 Location: Nevada	#19 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:17:47 PM TT , I could post some lovely graphs and charts making people feel more comfortable with their betting options,but that's the work of a chartist illusionist.Common sense will always prevail over substance.
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Banned Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 12061 Location: Florida	#20 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:18:17 PM Why bet this game at all? Vegas wins with the Vig. We're all losers tonight (in the long run).
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Captain Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 9742 Location: Texas	#21 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:18:45 PM @King - I was not aware that Vegas books operated on a week to week basis, thought was only locals and why would "Vegas" worry about the locals?
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Louis_IV	RSI View Space \| Blog \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Hall of Fame Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 27529 Location: Ohio	#22 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:19:24 PM I wish it worked out the way you said, otherwise many of us that think that way would be rich. It works out both ways. I see a lot of fishy lines and the fish still covers.....gL
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Veteran Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 4882 Location: Georgia	#23 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:21:26 PM You people and lines. I will NEVER understand. Pay no attention to lines and you will WIN AND LOSE the same as if you didn't. Except you will more free time to spend in your life.
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HoustonSports	View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \| My Sportsbook: BookMaker \|
Captain Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 9742 Location: Texas	#24 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:22:33 PM @dcmc - well said
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duranizm	RSI View Space \| Friends \| Playbook \|
Veteran Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1318 Location:	#25 Posted: 7/22/2012 7:23:32 PM i'm a kind of newbie, but what about UNDER? all factors point OVER, but the line hasn't changed. esp ump paul emmel's last 18 games - 17 OVER, 1 UNDER, but yesterday 9, then today 8? rangers hit well the other night, but overall their bat had been cold. anyone leaning UNDER?
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