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Author: [NBA Betting] Topic: Laker fans getting Howard does not = RING
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Posted: 8/19/2012 9:32:41 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ct1016:

@ mellow

Thanks and I just posted my last one.


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Posted: 8/19/2012 10:39:20 AM

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/pom.html

Man, I have to thank you Mattbrot....you made me look back through the stuff I read over the years and I located the above article I read some time ago

Many times I posted in this forum that LBJ has won more player of week and month awards than anyone in NBA History....well above is the link to that

In fairness to MJ.....player of the month in his era was player of month for the entire NBA...around 2001 they started giving the distinction/honor to an eastern conference and western conference player......bottom line is in LBJs era he is blowing everyone away

LBJ won this 20 times to date.....anyone think he will not get more?    Again, another accomplishment that simply is not being reported....just the    "clutch"     stuff

I count the other notables this many times

Wade     6

Kobe   15

Kevin Durant    5

Michael Jordan   14*   took two years off...again award was only given to one guy in his time...not monthly  *** asterisk ***

Shaq     12

Dwight Howard   5

Derrick Rose    "1"    I kept posting everywhere why is he MVP.?   He was player of month only once that year...LBJ was player of month twice that season and had more player of weeks too.

Magic    5

Bird       7

Olajuwon    6

Duncan   3

Garnett  7

David Robinson  3

Barkley   3

Karl Malone  5

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/pom.html

My point is there are so many things this guy is doing but  "MANY"   want the narrative to read  look @ Boston playoff games and the Mavs playoff games

His player or week and month honors are off the charts...and this number will only continue to grow

that was my last post......all these articles started to come back to me...when I read the post saying   "this stuff is hard to prove.....and the stats are empty....."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/pom.html

 

 

 

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Posted: 8/19/2012 10:03:17 PM
CT1016  He is a stud no doubt. Wish he was on the Mavs.

And to use my apparently "uber-cool catchphrase" 

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Posted: 8/23/2012 5:48:01 PM
wade better than kobeur just a kobe hater ct. and for anyone to really say lakers arent or shouldnt b fav to win it all are just scared.  IF they stay healthy they win. OKC will b tougher matchup for lakers but i feel lakers woulda beat heat last year as they match up very good vs heat.
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Posted: 8/23/2012 5:49:44 PM
Kobe still does everything better than wade
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Posted: 8/23/2012 8:36:24 PM
go go go lakers.

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Posted: 8/24/2012 9:07:34 AM
Nash can still play and led league mosr of yr in assists.If Howard can stay healthy Miami will get all they can handle.Wade limped thru postseason last yr and is certainly on decline.Its a great matchup for Lakers,but Lebron seems to be only getting more dominant.Lebron is a physical BEAST and hasnt even figured out how to shoot yet.When he does it wont be fair.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 9:12:39 AM
Lakers will dominate the paint with Pao and Dwight..with Nash Kobe,Dwight and Pao will all be better.Lakers will MOW over OKC..this aint the 04 Lakers..I guess ur in the decline if u were 2nd in the league in scoring.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 9:15:54 AM
Wade isnt in the same league as Kobe..
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Posted: 8/24/2012 9:44:19 AM
wade better than Kobe



get your head out of your behind ct
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Posted: 8/26/2012 4:59:17 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SCROG:

Another Ring for Kobe    Deal with it
that's true!!!!
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Posted: 8/26/2012 5:00:31 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

wade better than Kobe

no way.

get your head out of your behind ct
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Posted: 8/26/2012 5:04:20 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kagjon:

kobe have 5 rings wade have only 2.

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Posted: 8/26/2012 5:10:38 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by kagjon:

sorry howard is in the house.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 5:13:46 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Mad_Skillz123:

wade better than Kobe



get your head out of your behind ct
get your behind out of your head.
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Posted: 8/26/2012 1:00:37 PM

Kobe has had the better career...."and better teammates."

Now that Wade and Lebron have each other (playing with all stars like kobe has played with virtually his entire career)

the playing field is even.

What exactly does Kobe do "defintitely better than D Wade"

To me, they are essentially the same player

nice scorer...nice defenders....but what does kobe do DEFINTIVELY better than Wade?

To me, it is not as clear cut as it seems.  Just my opinion.

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Posted: 8/26/2012 1:15:07 PM

Let me try to clarify my "opinion"

Kobe is the more decorated...player...played in LA...Bigger Superstar.....etc..etc...

But like the movie "trading places ...that starred Eddie Murphy".....I traded Wade for Kobe.....and I see Wade getting those same rings in LA that kobe got...but I am not so sure that Kobe makes his teammates better the way "his fanbase" thinks he does....

I actually think Kobe scores more (becuase he shoots more)

but Wade is the better passer...blocks more shots

and I think they steal the ball  -- EVEN

rebounding ... maybe EVEN.

The media clearly says edge kobe.   I just think their GAME is closer than folks think.....can Wade stop Kobe one on one....NOPE

Can Kobe stop Wade one on one...NOPE

so what separates the two?    In my opinion, it is the other parts of their game.....and to me - that is edge   D Wade.

Just my opinion.

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Posted: 8/26/2012 1:21:28 PM

Unfortunately, I do not have the articles to support my opinion about D Wade that is so clearly out there with LBJ

But there is footage to show other NBA greats saying D Wade has the BEST STEP-THRU SPLIT THE DOUBLE TEAM MOVE...in nba history......and their are stats to support that D Wade may pass kobe in career steals, rebounds and blocks .....but kobe gets the nod for the all defense team guard spot over Wade every year ...which is w.i.e.r.d - and proves that media bias and popularity is at play with the defensive squad guys)

But for the most part......they are the same guy

KOBE  95

WADE 92     

 

An "A" is an "A"

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Posted: 8/26/2012 9:23:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ct1016:


What exactly does Kobe do "defintitely better than D Wade"


Much better free throw shooter, much better three point shooter. 

If you take into consideration Wade is four years younger, Kobe has been the much better defender: First time all defensive 9 times. Wade? 2 times. 


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Posted: 8/26/2012 9:26:07 PM

To me

   *  Kobe is an all star

       Wade is an all star

   *   Kobe is a great offensive player

      Wade is a great offensive player

 *   Kobe plays good defense

      Wade plays good defense

  *   Kobe can finish games

       Wade can finish games

Whatever Kobe can do

Wade can do

Kobe is not defintively better than Wade

Just my opinion

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Posted: 8/26/2012 9:36:24 PM
Ct1016  Wade is better than kobe...
This is my opinion - you are friggin stupid and crazy... This is my opinion, you are an idiot 
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Posted: 8/26/2012 10:01:12 PM

I did not say wade is clearly  >  kobe.....

I did say that kobe fans and media have annoited kobe to be MORE than what he is.....he is a scorer...he is a champion.....he is NOT a good teammate...NOT a great passer...and to me NOT a better all around player than Wade

Wade is extremely close to kobe - skill and B-Ball wise......Kobe has been extremely fortunate to have been drafted by the Lakers .....skill wise   NO   he is not superior to Wade.

And yes, if knowing what I know now about their skills...I would want the better all around player....and I think Wade makes his teammates better more so than kobe....

You guys love the tough shot taking---tough shot making....BLACK MAMBA persona....I can win this thing by melf bryant......I get it....I see it......I'm entertained too!!!!!!

....but I will take the guy that the teammates are not begging for the ball from/for in their media interviews and

the guy that a coach (phil jackson) didn't write a book saying quote " sometimes kobe is uncoachable"   end quote

To me, they are close in ability......I say edge to the guy that is the better teammate....and passer....and that is D Wade

C'mon folks, everyone cannot have the same opinion....

you say hot...I say cold.....someone else says ugly...another says cute......we all are entiltled to our own opinions...sometimes we have to agree to disagree....and there is nothing wrong with that.

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Posted: 8/26/2012 10:35:27 PM
lakers will win this season.
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Posted: 8/27/2012 9:56:10 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by ct1016:

To me

   *  Kobe is an all star

       Wade is an all star

   *   Kobe is a great offensive player

      Wade is a great offensive player

 *   Kobe plays good defense

      Wade plays good defense

  *   Kobe can finish games

       Wade can finish games

Whatever Kobe can do

Wade can do

Kobe is not defintively better than Wade

Just my opinion


Dwyane isn't a great shooter. Kobe is.
Dwyane is an average 70-75% free throw shooter. Kobe is 80-85%.
Dwyane can't finish games anymore. Miami's finisher is now clearly LeBron. Kobe is still the best finisher in the game (maybe second to Durant)
Dwyane's post game is nowhere close to Kobe's post game. 

and it's not like Dwyane Wade won a title without superstars on his team. He had a very solid Shaq when he won his first ring and he had LeBron and Bosh when he won his 2nd. 
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Posted: 8/27/2012 11:49:57 AM
if someone says Wade is = to Kobe, its just like saying that Kobe is = to MJ.


MJ is 10-15% better than Kobe, and same, Kobe is 10-15% better than Wade.


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