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Posted: 1/29/2012 1:20:43 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by sawman:

i've hated a lot of what chael has said over the years too, but it's simply for the show and promotion. It's not real, not like when lesnar ranted after his win a couple yrs ago

he has done a great job creating an identity and character for himself, and his fights are always so hyped up because of the drama and attention he brings.

sonnen/silva will be one, if not THE, biggest fight in UFC history

and at the end of the day, you have to appreciate his wrestling skills, courage, heart... He will never leave the octagon without giving it 100%. Sometime even 150%

I'm not a sonnen fan at all, unless i'm betting him. He's just good for the sport

dont know if anderson/chael will ever be made. chael has asked for the fight on four different occasions and even agreed to brazil. anderson and his age/ injuries may be too much for him to overcome and is why he is rejecting the fight.

chael has given some of the best interviews in recent times. that fake belt was absolutely classic. if you listen to him he you can tell that he is extremely intelligent.

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Posted: 1/29/2012 1:43:19 PM
It doesn't exactly take a whole lot to be the second greatest middleweight of all time. MW was an awful division before Anderson arrived. A ton of Chael's losses are also at 205 (Horn, Babalu, Griffin).
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Posted: 1/29/2012 9:58:40 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Slovak:

I am still chuckling over the "easily the second greatest middleweight ever" statement.

The freaking guy has been finished himself as many times as he has finished his opponents.

thanks for the laugh.
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Posted: 1/30/2012 1:46:20 AM
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and I certainly don't know how he can even feel like the greatest after his performance last night. I thought Bisping edged him in the first 2 rounds. I can see how the judges could have called it either way, but if anything, I think it should have been a draw. apparently Joe Rogan also though so.


well you lost all attempt at credibility once you said you thought bisping won the first 2 rounds
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Posted: 1/30/2012 3:27:47 AM
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well you lost all attempt at credibility once you said you thought bisping won the first 2 rounds
how do you win rounds when you are pinned against the fence pretty much the entire first two rounds?

and the third round, sonnen just laid on top, did nothing really to speak of. i know what i saw, judges, same as boxing are a joke. if sonnen and silva fight again, keep me posted, oh wait, sonnen will win, so a third fight can really cash in, that would be sweet. 
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Posted: 1/30/2012 9:16:01 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Howdoiplayxx:



well you lost all attempt at credibility once you said you thought bisping won the first 2 rounds


Lost credibility really? that is funny considering that Sonnen was uncertain if he even won the fight. he said so in his post fight interview.
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Posted: 1/30/2012 11:28:35 AM

both round one and two were extremely close, and could have gone either way without anyone being too surprised, in my opinion.

but we all know, wrestling and control wins in MMA. Every round Sonnen got him down and maintained a dominant position, landing several good shots each time.

GREAT fight between two of the best. neither gave an inch

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Posted: 1/30/2012 11:22:01 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by sawman:

both round one and two were extremely close, and could have gone either way without anyone being too surprised, in my opinion.

but we all know, wrestling and control wins in MMA. Every round Sonnen got him down and maintained a dominant position, landing several good shots each time.

GREAT fight between two of the best. neither gave an inch

i hear what you are saying sawman. it was a close fight, and if you leave it up to the judges, anything can happen.

i think bisping won rounds 1 and 2, lost round 3. but that's the way she goes now a days. i still don't like his 'antics' whatever, everyone has their opinion. if he was undefeated, or his record was off the charts, it wouldn't bother me as much. 28-11-1, isn't worthy of touting the way he is.
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Posted: 2/1/2012 8:54:02 AM
Chael, whether you like him or not is the 2nd best middleweight ever in the UFC, I would like to know who else we would put there? Franklin who got his face rearranged by silva in a couple fights? Those fights weren't even competitive. Look like a grown man beating up on a 10 year old... Maybe hendo but most of hendos fights have been at 205.... Look at the last bunch of fights chael has fought, he has improved a lot and beat a ton of guys that were top 5 middleweightsat the time all in the last 3 years in the UFC which means a lot more than franklins wins because those were in a time where the sport was new and the competition was very weak
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Posted: 2/1/2012 8:58:37 AM
Whether or not you like his antics, chael has beaten quality guys in the middleweight div and was the only guy to have been 30 seconds away from beating silva. That alone should get higher your respect.. Silva has mashed everyone yet sonnen had the first 4 rounds won on the scorecards. Even if silva was at 70% that is still very impressive that sonnen can win all those rounds against a guy like silva who is seen as the greatest UFC fighter pound for pound ever according to rankings on all sports sites...
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Posted: 2/1/2012 9:03:27 AM
I will admit sonnens stunts/trash talking can be ridiculous at times but it doesn't really bother me as much. UFC fighters can sometimes be too quiet, too politically correct so it's a nice change to see sonnen say what a lot of other people are thinking. But yeah, he sometimes goes too far. He did give bisping a lot of credit and even bisping said sonnen was a gentleman in the leadup to the fight and was a gentleman after the fight...
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Posted: 2/1/2012 10:00:28 AM
I dont mind Sonnen. We'll see if it was the steroids that helped him against Silva the first time.
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Posted: 2/1/2012 3:10:46 PM
Nate Marquart has fought, beat, and finished more quality opponents than Sonnen ever will. and if you want to use MMath and say that Chael beat Nate, then we can go one step further and say well Nate finished Jeremy Horn who in turn finshed Chael Sonnen 3 times. He also knocked out Maia who subbed Sonnen in the first round.
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Posted: 2/1/2012 9:25:13 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by frank the tank:

I dont mind Sonnen. We'll see if it was the steroids that helped him against Silva the first time.
yep we'll see, 'roid' monkeys are cheaters, and when they are off them for awhile, it shows in their performance. i won't cheer for a roider. Ken Shamrock, Joe Riggs, Brock Lesnar......Chael  Sonnen?
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Posted: 2/2/2012 8:48:25 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Slovak:

I am still chuckling over the "easily the second greatest middleweight ever" statement.

The freaking guy has been finished himself as many times as he has finished his opponents.

thanks for the laugh.



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