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Posted: 7/26/2012 8:36:58 PM
What is the purpose of trying to make a play on preseason games? How can Vegas calculate a line on a game when most of the players have little or no experience? Seems to be a waste of good money to me!
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Posted: 7/28/2012 1:38:48 AM
It's still 50/50 bro
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Posted: 7/28/2012 5:07:58 PM
you can make money in preseason, a few rules of thumb, find out which teams are having quarterbacks battle to start. There are several this year, Arizona, Cleveland, Miami,Tennessee, Jacksonville, Seattle.
Check out the local paper in the team's city the day before and on the day the game is played. Coaches freely say what they are going to do and how long their starters are going to play. Check previous scores in preseason, maybe one team is dominating. New head coaches, some will try and win early to gain some confidence and momentum. watch for coaches that don't care about preseason and have a poor record.
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Posted: 7/28/2012 7:27:47 PM
preseason can be money if you look deep into rosters and look at qb battles 
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Posted: 7/28/2012 7:28:06 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by vegasflyer1:

you can make money in preseason, a few rules of thumb, find out which teams are having quarterbacks battle to start. There are several this year, Arizona, Cleveland, Miami,Tennessee, Jacksonville, Seattle.
Check out the local paper in the team's city the day before and on the day the game is played. Coaches freely say what they are going to do and how long their starters are going to play. Check previous scores in preseason, maybe one team is dominating. New head coaches, some will try and win early to gain some confidence and momentum. watch for coaches that don't care about preseason and have a poor record.

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Posted: 7/28/2012 8:42:33 PM
You can make some money.   Not a lot.   Find out how long the regulars are going to stay in the games.   Find out what the coaches want to emphasize in the games,   Read the local papers (getting harder to do as more and more charge for online access now).   When in doubt, take underdogs... a decent fraction of preseason games are decided in the 4th quarter by 4th/5th string players who aren't even going to make the team and so they are essentially random.   Isn't it better to be getting 3 points in that situation than giving it?  

You won't get rich, but you can make a small profit to pad your bankroll for the real thing.   Here's my record for the 11 years I've been doing it... I only lost money one year in that time period.   As you can see, it's not like I made a huge profit or anything, but the money is there.  [For the past 2 years, all these plays were posted here on covers before gametime; before that they were on the Usenet group rec.gambling.sports which Google still archives so anyone who doesn't believe me can go back and check the results].

PRESEASON NFL RECORD
2001 23-17, +4.52 units
2002 27-20, +5.66 units
2003 27-23, +2.07 units
2004 15-14,  0.00 units
2005 17-13, +3.00 units
2006 11-10, +0.35 units
2007 15-10, +3.90 units
2008 16-7, +8.30 units
2009 12-10, +0.80 units
2010 6-7, -1.80 units
2011 7-6, +0.35 units
TOTAL:  176-137, +27.05 units

As you can see, I have personally found it harder and harder to find games with an edge the past few years.   Just 13 games each in the past two preseasons, after playing 2+ most of the previous years and as many as 50 back in 2003.

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Posted: 7/29/2012 12:24:51 PM
youre right stevea2009, the plays have been fewer the last couple of years. I think coaching turnovers are so common these days that it is harder to establish a winning or losing pattern. I have the numbers, but not off the top of my head, but we lose close to half the teams coaches every two years. There have been 43 new head coaches since 2006. We had 10 in 2006, 11 in 2009, 7 this year.
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Posted: 7/30/2012 12:33:00 AM
preseason is a gem for NFL betting you just have to think about motivation and have a little knowledge about some of the depth players on team's rosters- don't bet on it if you are lazy to look into it
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Posted: 7/30/2012 1:37:51 AM
I am just curious - - when will we be allowed to start making picks ? ?

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Posted: 7/30/2012 3:43:35 AM
SteveA, you are dead on. The pre season is the free season. Last 3 years for me 40-13. It doesn't get any better, the coaches and the beat writers can almost point you in the right direction. Andy Reid is something like 1-9 ATS in week 1. Listen to the coaches weekly presser, he'll tell you how he going to play the game 
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Posted: 7/30/2012 8:58:01 PM
Thanks steveA2009 
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:08:45 PM
I generally avoid preseason games.    I did hear a guy (maybe a tout?) on the radio the other day giving tips about preseason.   I only heard a portion of the interview, but he said Shanahan is like 48-19 (or something similar) in the preseason.    Also Belicheck has a similar record for Overs.    So according to him, FWIW, play ON the Skins, and Overs for Pats games.    
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:13:35 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SteveA2009:

You can make some money.   Not a lot.   Find out how long the regulars are going to stay in the games.   Find out what the coaches want to emphasize in the games,   Read the local papers (getting harder to do as more and more charge for online access now).   When in doubt, take underdogs... a decent fraction of preseason games are decided in the 4th quarter by 4th/5th string players who aren't even going to make the team and so they are essentially random.   Isn't it better to be getting 3 points in that situation than giving it?  

You won't get rich, but you can make a small profit to pad your bankroll for the real thing.   Here's my record for the 11 years I've been doing it... I only lost money one year in that time period.   As you can see, it's not like I made a huge profit or anything, but the money is there.  [For the past 2 years, all these plays were posted here on covers before gametime; before that they were on the Usenet group rec.gambling.sports which Google still archives so anyone who doesn't believe me can go back and check the results].

PRESEASON NFL RECORD
2001 23-17, +4.52 units
2002 27-20, +5.66 units
2003 27-23, +2.07 units
2004 15-14,  0.00 units
2005 17-13, +3.00 units
2006 11-10, +0.35 units
2007 15-10, +3.90 units
2008 16-7, +8.30 units
2009 12-10, +0.80 units
2010 6-7, -1.80 units
2011 7-6, +0.35 units
TOTAL:  176-137, +27.05 units

As you can see, I have personally found it harder and harder to find games with an edge the past few years.   Just 13 games each in the past two preseasons, after playing 2+ most of the previous years and as many as 50 back in 2003.



Yeah SteveA I remember you from rec.gambling.sports.   You were a good contributor, and kept honest records.   Good luck this year.
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Posted: 8/31/2012 2:04:36 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by SteveA2009:

You can make some money.   Not a lot.   Find out how long the regulars are going to stay in the games.   Find out what the coaches want to emphasize in the games,   Read the local papers (getting harder to do as more and more charge for online access now).   When in doubt, take underdogs... a decent fraction of preseason games are decided in the 4th quarter by 4th/5th string players who aren't even going to make the team and so they are essentially random.   Isn't it better to be getting 3 points in that situation than giving it?  

You won't get rich, but you can make a small profit to pad your bankroll for the real thing.   Here's my record for the 11 years I've been doing it... I only lost money one year in that time period.   As you can see, it's not like I made a huge profit or anything, but the money is there.  [For the past 2 years, all these plays were posted here on covers before gametime; before that they were on the Usenet group rec.gambling.sports which Google still archives so anyone who doesn't believe me can go back and check the results].

PRESEASON NFL RECORD
2001 23-17, +4.52 units
2002 27-20, +5.66 units
2003 27-23, +2.07 units
2004 15-14,  0.00 units
2005 17-13, +3.00 units
2006 11-10, +0.35 units
2007 15-10, +3.90 units
2008 16-7, +8.30 units
2009 12-10, +0.80 units
2010 6-7, -1.80 units
2011 7-6, +0.35 units
TOTAL:  176-137, +27.05 units

As you can see, I have personally found it harder and harder to find games with an edge the past few years.   Just 13 games each in the past two preseasons, after playing 2+ most of the previous years and as many as 50 back in 2003.



And now I can add 2012 to my list:

2012 15-8-1, +6.15 units
TOTAL:  191-145, +33.20 units
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