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#126
Posted: 1/25/2012 8:33:51 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by bizkilla:

the business of professional sports and unfortunately amateur sports would not be as big as it is without gambling. The NFL is the most hypocritical of all the leagues in that regard. I think honestly, there is a very small minority of actual professionals who can claim to make a real living off this. Because no matter what information you have and how good you are at capping, THE BALL DONT LIE! It has a funny way of bouncing and the cast of characters who play the game are animals. 

I never understood people who bet on horses or worse, greyhounds. But then I have to look in the mirror at a man who bets that 15 oversized grown men who just traveled late from Milwaukee to Chicago will cover 5 points on the road the next day. I'm not sure if a player was smoking weed or screwing groupies all night. Will he be fit enough to play the next day. This is gambling. Just like in poker, you know the odds and you place your money on the odds that are in your favor. With sound management, even the average Joe can turn a profit.

I have gambled my entire life. I remember playing flips in school cafeterias. Then from that I placed C-LO dice. My love of sports turned me to this. From 2001-2005, I was a loser. Sure, I won my fair share of games, but at the end of each year I would lose money. Making "ALL IN" bets. Just chasing action. Playing other peoples picks. You name it. Every mistake. That was like college to me.

From 2006-2010. I turn nothing but profits. Until 2011 (Miami), I picked every NBA Champion in the preseason. The odds weren't great, but I knew who would win, every June I collect. In the NFL playoffs, I am legend. Picked the Chargers +9.5 points and moneyline to go into Indy and win outright. Last year, I had Seattle moneyline against the visiting s'AINTS. This year I had Gmen going into Green Bay and winning outright. All those wins were impressive, I played what I could afford. The money I won helped me pay off mortgage debt and car notes. Helped fund amazing vacations and helped upgrade from a hamburger to a filet mignon. 

This year was bad. Miami losing in Finals hurt. NFL, I was pathetic. College, forget it. 

You must judge things long-term. Learn to survive by managing your bankroll. Never stop learning. If you lose, study the game. Watch the tape. Learn from your mistakes. This should be a fun hobby with a potential for even greater things. 

Truest statement ever wrote.  Nothing is a lock all we can do is play the odds.  And with proper money management, you should almost never go broke.  It takes one hell of a streak of bad luck when your doing it right.

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Posted: 1/25/2012 2:16:39 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by Plisskin76:

Anyone who trusts online poker sites and betting sites with thier money is even a bigger moron.

 

mmmmmm,

 

just made a withdrawal last week using Money gram with Heritagesports!

best part, didn't have to talk to any of their customer services at all, click n click then pick up the $ @ Walmart at 6 pm

LOVIN' LIFE,,,, WOOO HOOOO!

Dropping $1k on Super Bowl, here comes another big pay day WOOO HOOO!

 

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Posted: 1/25/2012 2:53:36 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mrquija27:

Truest statement ever wrote.  Nothing is a lock all we can do is play the odds.  And with proper money management, you should almost never go broke.  It takes one hell of a streak of bad luck when your doing it right.

The best part of what was his well-written bio was, 'this should be a hobby with the potential of more'. You highlighted an average Joe turning a profit, and I will agree he can.

70% is an impossible statistic, so let's assume you cap the NFL and hit 62.5%. To make a living at this you would have to wager around $3000/week to make 60k; and that's over an entire year. The NFL season is less than half the year, so, double the 3k to 6k.

Do you have that kind of money? If you do than rock on and give it your best. My point is that most people dont, and therefore, wont make it a living.

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Posted: 1/25/2012 5:00:45 PM

I don't know how many threads I've seen like this, but the  same people always start them. You know what all these people have in common? They are losers. Only the people who consistently lose say it's not possible to win at this game. You people need to stop being so iggnorant. There are people on this very website that win year in and year out. The key is you must be selective. Sure, if you make 5-10 plays a night and 400+ plays in one season odds are you won't be successful. The people who are more selective and do the necessary work to be successful are. Remember, if you are saying it's not possible to consistently win, then quit now because you will lose.

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Posted: 1/25/2012 5:11:32 PM

Ok we get it...you guys both rock.....now lets see this big talk produce a winner>!!!!!!!

 

WHos taking the Super Bowl !!!

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Posted: 1/25/2012 5:12:07 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by onebrokebloke:

The best part of what was his well-written bio was, 'this should be a hobby with the potential of more'. You highlighted an average Joe turning a profit, and I will agree he can.

70% is an impossible statistic, so let's assume you cap the NFL and hit 62.5%. To make a living at this you would have to wager around $3000/week to make 60k; and that's over an entire year. The NFL season is less than half the year, so, double the 3k to 6k.

Do you have that kind of money? If you do than rock on and give it your best. My point is that most people dont, and therefore, wont make it a living.

Ok well I will agree with you and this point 100%!

You are right it would take a bankroll of at least 50k to even think about making a straight living off this.  And most of us do not have it.  But I can still be successful betting 50 a pop.  But once again you are right and I should have agreed with you already.  It should be a hobby for most of us.  That being said my points of commen sense, MM, etc..  say the same thing.  Anyone who understands the basics to gambling should already know this though.  Anyways its whatever

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Posted: 1/25/2012 5:14:12 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by aaustinova67:

Ok we get it...you guys both rock.....now lets see this big talk produce a winner>!!!!!!!

 

WHos taking the Super Bowl !!!

The better defense

Offenses are pretty similar in talent level, yeah laugh it up I know most of you will.  But I know what I see.

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Posted: 1/25/2012 5:55:18 PM
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Posted: 1/26/2012 1:27:03 AM

my balls are startin to take on a different kinda sheen...very awkward way of lookin at football...I never asked for sexual arousal in sports gambling but its exactly what I got!!!

well,, this old school Maine logger is tellin me stories and we're jammin Neil Young tunes...just reportin i just got a stone cold lock on the integrity of some mushroom chocolate hearts...a hot sell for valantines day!! muahaha

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Posted: 1/26/2012 2:01:51 AM
well, he runs his skidder down the strangest of tracks but he aint done nothin ova heehaa yet...VALENTINES day is the only damn thing he's told me how it spelt and he's thinkin a flag is up and its the BIG ONE!!...Aint much goin on up heeahhh..
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Posted: 1/26/2012 2:27:27 AM

SA Martinez of 311 just showed up and busted out 'a continouus life'...it sounded good but my logger neighbor just yanked a 23' togue out the ice bub.....gotta be a 4 pounda...spun right out of it c you on the otha side of the river!....

 

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Posted: 1/26/2012 2:48:25 AM
It is quite believable that anyone can beat the 53.2% break-even point on any given month or even year. One lucky parlay is all it takes sometimes. 

But can somebody PLEASE tell me, how in hell can you make a LIVING out of sports-betting, especially in the USA? (where you gotta pay taxes?!). You are not risking 1.1 units to win 1 unit, you are risking almost 2 units per units, since the government will tax you on whatever you make for a living. I can see a small time winning gambler getting away with it but if you're making 50K+ a year, you're eventually gonna spend it in visible assets, you're going to invest some of it and maybe live the luxury life, since you don't have to go to work everyday. 

Also, if you have un-declared revenue, even in a country that does not tax on gambling winnings, how are you going to tell the bank you made an extra 50K a year for the past 5 years when comes time to finance an investment property or a mortgage?
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Posted: 1/26/2012 10:08:16 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by eddothebook:

It is quite believable that anyone can beat the 53.2% break-even point on any given month or even year. One lucky parlay is all it takes sometimes. 

But can somebody PLEASE tell me, how in hell can you make a LIVING out of sports-betting, especially in the USA? (where you gotta pay taxes?!). You are not risking 1.1 units to win 1 unit, you are risking almost 2 units per units, since the government will tax you on whatever you make for a living. I can see a small time winning gambler getting away with it but if you're making 50K+ a year, you're eventually gonna spend it in visible assets, you're going to invest some of it and maybe live the luxury life, since you don't have to go to work everyday. 

Also, if you have un-declared revenue, even in a country that does not tax on gambling winnings, how are you going to tell the bank you made an extra 50K a year for the past 5 years when comes time to finance an investment property or a mortgage?



The break even % is alittle lower than you said.Its 52.4% not 53.2%
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Posted: 1/26/2012 10:44:53 AM
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Ok well I will agree with you and this point 100%!

You are right it would take a bankroll of at least 50k to even think about making a straight living off this.  And most of us do not have it.  But I can still be successful betting 50 a pop.  But once again you are right and I should have agreed with you already.  It should be a hobby for most of us.  That being said my points of commen sense, MM, etc..  say the same thing.  Anyone who understands the basics to gambling should already know this though.  Anyways its whatever

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Thank you Lions fan and good luck in the SuperBowl. It is ALL money management and accessing info...Dont EVER go too heavy on favorites either. Although they come in more than dogs, having the balls to take the dog is what breeds success.

pisser the Lions did'nt keep it tight in NO and cover that10.5...I had em and I guess they just coulnt keep up...Calvin Johnson is the best wide receiver to ever play the game in my opinion and he isnt even done yet

Giants +8 in GreenBay was the biggest gift of the year and oddsmakers are still kickin themselves on that darn-up

It is a hobby and fun one at that...

 

 

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Posted: 1/26/2012 4:32:52 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by onebrokebloke:

Originally Posted by mrquija27]

Ok well I will agree with you and this point 100%!

You are right it would take a bankroll of at least 50k to even think about making a straight living off this.  And most of us do not have it.  But I can still be successful betting 50 a pop.  But once again you are right and I should have agreed with you already.  It should be a hobby for most of us.  That being said my points of commen sense, MM, etc..  say the same thing.  Anyone who understands the basics to gambling should already know this though.  Anyways its whatever

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Thank you Lions fan and good luck in the SuperBowl. It is ALL money management and accessing info...Dont EVER go too heavy on favorites either. Although they come in more than dogs, having the balls to take the dog is what breeds success.

pisser the Lions did'nt keep it tight in NO and cover that10.5...I had em and I guess they just coulnt keep up...Calvin Johnson is the best wide receiver to ever play the game in my opinion and he isnt even done yet

Giants +8 in GreenBay was the biggest gift of the year and oddsmakers are still kickin themselves on that darn-up

It is a hobby and fun one at that...

 


Didn't the Packers turn the ball over like 5 times?
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Posted: 1/27/2012 1:00:44 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by eddothebook:


Didn't the Packers turn the ball over like 5 times?

Is that how many times it was Ed? I just remember rodgers rushin for almost as many yards as he threw for the Packers were so bad. In the weeks before that they lost to KC, got outplayed yet won by chicago and Cade McCown and Detroit put 40 on the board week 17.

Ed if you tell me you had GB -8 I would hafta say you just dont pay attention.

Joan Jett just stopped by and she's pretty fuckin smokin in real life. Her and her husband are up here on a Winter Ice fishing trip in Northern Maine. This is the 3rd night in a row these fuckin vacationers have got me to eat mushrooms and I cant look like a cheap as and ask em for money but I cant heat my house on sellin bait for too much longer. Im gonna see if her husband can handle the ones in the red wrapper they knock your fuckin socks off ...  muahaha...

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Posted: 1/27/2012 2:20:02 AM

After shoveling my way through all the bullshit this thread contains, I've found some pay dirt.

Money management and Giants +8 being (one of) the biggest gifts of the year.

I'm pretty sure my son's 7 year old sister can wrap her around money management being the key in just about any business. This is not something that should take you longer than a season (to be generous, some people start off slow) to figure out. Money management is the key to longevity. I figured this out before the end of preseason and this is my first year wagering on NFL or period.

I do believe it possible to make a living on gambling. For my own sanity's sake I will not go back into this thread to find out who said it, but they hit the nail on the head when they said that this should be a hobby with greater potentials. That is exactly how I look at it. I can't afford to lay down huge bets, but I work with what I can to be able to last a whole season (oh, wow, money management) and some nice parlays have saved my behind. I'm still however working on and discovering capping techniques.

If any of you more experienced people have any tips, please drop me a mail.

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Posted: 1/27/2012 3:04:05 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by joeylazaretti:

After shoveling my way through all the bullshit this thread contains, I've found some pay dirt.

Money management and Giants +8 being (one of) the biggest gifts of the year.

I'm pretty sure my son's 7 year old sister can wrap her around money management being the key in just about any business. This is not something that should take you longer than a season (to be generous, some people start off slow) to figure out. Money management is the key to longevity. I figured this out before the end of preseason and this is my first year wagering on NFL or period.

I do believe it possible to make a living on gambling. For my own sanity's sake I will not go back into this thread to find out who said it, but they hit the nail on the head when they said that this should be a hobby with greater potentials. That is exactly how I look at it. I can't afford to lay down huge bets, but I work with what I can to be able to last a whole season (oh, wow, money management) and some nice parlays have saved my behind. I'm still however working on and discovering capping techniques.

If any of you more experienced people have any tips, please drop me a mail.


uhhhh. Your daughter?
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Posted: 1/27/2012 3:15:24 AM
Uhh, no? Same mother, different father, genius.
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Forgot to add 'earthWake is a cocky, douche, who seems to think he's always right and nit picks at bullshit' under the pay dirt list.

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Posted: 1/27/2012 4:05:34 AM
I was kidding tough guy. relax
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Posted: 1/27/2012 4:57:03 AM
and not to be a person, but if they have same mom and different dad. Its his half sister, so technically we were both wrong.

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Posted: 1/27/2012 5:14:08 AM
QUOTE Originally Posted by onebrokebloke:

In my opinion, every man that has engaged himself into a life of competitiveness will always be attracted to his/her own opinion on the outcome of a sport they have played. Or, if even if they have'nt played sports but have a love for them, think they know them deeper than most because that love alone has a certain spot they hold close to themselves. My own experiences hopefully reaches out to the younger guys that 'think they know everything' in this 'business'.

First, it needs to be known that this is only a business for the rich, (obviously) or people that provide information professionally. Illegal business is not considered 'business', but, here in New England it is certainly that. I have seen cops overlook crimes commited in mom-and-pops stores on behalf of what they themselves may have coming to them; I have a new set of front teeth trying to enforce a debt the man was'nt too keene on paying. I'm not proud but I've done everything to sitting in a man's house for 3 day's while his wife waited for em, to collecting cards for men that never paid me. I've had my own mothers' phone ring on a bet I made against the due I owed my superior....

I have more stories than most of you 21-25 year old's think you have. When I converted this into a hobby instead of a business things have gotten better. What, do you think you're bookie is gonna keep answering his phone if you're killin' it? He'll take time off and wait for you to get anxious. He knows what you normally bet so he waits. I used to get INSTUCTED to say a O/U was 37 when it wa actually 47 against the guys I knew would just PAY!! even if they knew they were right!!

Play small fellas otherwise you are not going to bull-garbage me. I've seen guys remortgage their houses and make excuses only druggies make...Even if you get in the scene and THINK you're a dawg the only avenue is violence to get to what you think is a damn dream...

Vegas crushes everyone in this and stop making this what you think is a business...make it a hobby...get a little online account and a little hot girl and be happy with what you have..otherwise, spend your first 8 years like I did...

 

 



10 years of sport gambling for me... Im totally agree with you
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Posted: 1/27/2012 6:16:03 AM
if you can't hit 50 percent in the streak survivor contest.   you shouldn't be betting at all.
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What is this thread about !?

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