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Posted: 2/13/2011 11:19:35 AM
Long (about 25 minutes) but very interesting read. The guy writes well and once you get started you'll get sucked in to see what the outcome was...

We all know these poker pros are the biggest degenerate gamblers in the world betting on anything and everything away from the table just to get action.

This is one of the most ridiculous prop bets I have seen divulged publicly.

But really, 70 miles in 24 hours makes me think my life would be flashing before me if I ever dreamed of attempting such a thing. The amount of money is irrelevant given the physical and mental requirements to win. 

To any runners out there, would you ever attempt this given the stakes? Would you even be remotely physically capable?


http://www.cardrunners.com/blog/internetpokers/the-million-dollar-bet-pt-1

http://www.cardrunners.com/blog/internetpokers/the-million-dollar-bet-pt-2


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Posted: 2/13/2011 12:09:55 PM
Interesting, I will have to read it. I ran div 1 cross country in college and while 70 miles in 24 hours would be very tough it would be possible. Definitely wouldn't be able to do it without some training geared towards it. 
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Posted: 2/13/2011 12:40:14 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by runlagos:

Interesting, I will have to read it. I ran div 1 cross country in college and while 70 miles in 24 hours would be very tough it would be possible. Definitely wouldn't be able to do it without some training geared towards it. 

Good. You're a runner...

Do you have any idea what kind of long-term physical toll it could take on someone who could only reasonably handle half / 3/4 of that and they simply zoned out and pushed themselves to the finish?

Is a heart attack probable/possible (especially given the bet didn't allow any 'walking miles' only 'running miles' which I assume is at least 5mph on a treadmill) What about knee issues? Wouldn't they persist for the rest of your life and how bad would it be? I assume so but I'm not acquainted with the physiology involved.


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Posted: 2/13/2011 3:03:14 PM
I would just compare it to the classic video of the guy winning the ironman but legs just crumble beneath him towards the finish and crawls across.

Don't think someone would be able to just walk out the door and "run" 70 miles in 24 hours.

Not sure about a heart attack but if you're not in good physical condition its certainly possible. I am sure your body would ache for some time wouldn't say it would persist the rest of your life though unless you already had lingering issues.
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Posted: 2/13/2011 4:30:11 PM
The best marathon runners will run 26 miles in about 2.5hrs  One of then could probably do it. I'm not sure somene who sits in a chair or on the computer for 16 hrs a day could come close
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yeah, running 70 miles in 24 hours is a major feat for most of us,,, but the dude that lost got used, plain and simple,,,, this in fact is an old scam used many years ago by someone because i remember reading about it in gambling times magazine,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, while most of us cant even jog a mile or 2 some one in great shape who used to be a college athlete and who just ran 17 miles a few days earlier, well, thier in a different boat,,,,,, jogging on a treadmill compared to jogging on hard dirt or pavement dont even compare!!! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, treadmills in gyms sit on a rubbery type floor, plus the treadmill gives a little when the feet pound on it, plus the belt is spinning helping your push away compared to jogging on pavement where you do all the pushing off ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, on top of this put 1 hand on the rail with a little pressure and it's even easier on the legs!!! ,,, you only have to put a hand on the rail once in a while when no one is looking to give your body an easy break!!!  ,,,,,,,,,,,,, the guy that lost was'nt even in the gym most of the time watching so it would be easy for the jogger to hold on to the rails just once in a while to make it a lot easier on the legs!!!,,, when you hold the rails it's like you're just floating along!!! ,,,, even if you dont touch the rails a treadmill dont compare to running on hard ground!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also the dude that lost the bet thinks the winner was out drunk the night before, but the losing bettor was'nt with them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i think the winner probably did have a few beers at the ballgame but by the time they hit the club i believe the winner poured his drinks out in the rest room or was ordering pepsi's and his other friends may have thought he was drinking as much as everyone else!!! ,,, it was a crowded club, no one knows if he was ordering pepsi's at the bar instead of liquor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but wait, the loser also knows that the winner left the club with a girl, so supposedly he was drunk, went to a girls house and screwed and then arrived home around daylight, so the loser thinks the winner has had no sleep,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but the loser is wrong as the winner had this all planned out with a girl he paid some money to a few days before, he simply left with her and did go to her house but only to sleep,,,, so when he got home that morning he went back to bed for about 4 more hours of sleep so he was plenty rested!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in other words he was'nt hungover and he was'nt tired,, he simply made it appear this way knowing it would be easier to get a big bet going and screw his so called friend out of some big money ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also this winning bettor is known in the poker circles for being a big prop bettor that always has to have some kind of silly action going on!!! ,,,,,,,,, the winner probably even lost a few little prop bets in recent weeks on purpose to make betting against him look easier!!!!  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i'm 100% sure the winner simply pulled a con on his friend to get the money, but maybe his friend should have known better!!!  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also the losing bettor go's out of his way to report the details of the bet in a long 2 part blog only a day or 2 after it happened ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you read the 2 parts it's almost like he's trying to get the poker world feeling sorry for him, could it be that maybe he hopes some of his more successful  poker buddys will pitch in and bail him out?,,,, sure sounds that way to me!,,, or with all the details is he hoping to get offered a movie rights deal??  ,,,,,,,, something is real fishy with this whole thing ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hell, with these type of degenerates maybe none of it really happened,,, maybe they just planned something for attention for whatever reason!! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but if i had to bet my money i say it did happen and like i wrote earlier the losing bettor just got hooked, like a little fishy!!!!!

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Posted: 2/15/2011 9:45:18 PM
thanks for posting that scalabrine, it was a great read. do you by any chance know who these guys are?
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Posted: 2/15/2011 10:22:31 PM

Ashton Griffin is theASHMAN103 online.

I know he plays alot of PLO on PokerStars.

He was playing Isildur1 $25/$50 PLO heads up a few days before this bet went down.

And this was not really a $1,000,000 prop bet. It was a $900,000 prop bet laying 3 - 1. He won $300,000.

I know Justin Smith and a few others had some side bets going as well on this but I would not really call this a $1,000,000 prop bet. Unless I am missing something, which is possible.

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Posted: 2/15/2011 11:18:37 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by FoolishTool:

yeah, running 70 miles in 24 hours is a major feat for most of us,,, but the dude that lost got used, plain and simple,,,, this in fact is an old scam used many years ago by someone because i remember reading about it in gambling times magazine,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, while most of us cant even jog a mile or 2 some one in great shape who used to be a college athlete and who just ran 17 miles a few days earlier, well, thier in a different boat,,,,,, jogging on a treadmill compared to jogging on hard dirt or pavement dont even compare!!! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, treadmills in gyms sit on a rubbery type floor, plus the treadmill gives a little when the feet pound on it, plus the belt is spinning helping your push away compared to jogging on pavement where you do all the pushing off ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, on top of this put 1 hand on the rail with a little pressure and it's even easier on the legs!!! ,,, you only have to put a hand on the rail once in a while when no one is looking to give your body an easy break!!!  ,,,,,,,,,,,,, the guy that lost was'nt even in the gym most of the time watching so it would be easy for the jogger to hold on to the rails just once in a while to make it a lot easier on the legs!!!,,, when you hold the rails it's like you're just floating along!!! ,,,, even if you dont touch the rails a treadmill dont compare to running on hard ground!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also the dude that lost the bet thinks the winner was out drunk the night before, but the losing bettor was'nt with them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i think the winner probably did have a few beers at the ballgame but by the time they hit the club i believe the winner poured his drinks out in the rest room or was ordering pepsi's and his other friends may have thought he was drinking as much as everyone else!!! ,,, it was a crowded club, no one knows if he was ordering pepsi's at the bar instead of liquor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but wait, the loser also knows that the winner left the club with a girl, so supposedly he was drunk, went to a girls house and screwed and then arrived home around daylight, so the loser thinks the winner has had no sleep,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but the loser is wrong as the winner had this all planned out with a girl he paid some money to a few days before, he simply left with her and did go to her house but only to sleep,,,, so when he got home that morning he went back to bed for about 4 more hours of sleep so he was plenty rested!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in other words he was'nt hungover and he was'nt tired,, he simply made it appear this way knowing it would be easier to get a big bet going and screw his so called friend out of some big money ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also this winning bettor is known in the poker circles for being a big prop bettor that always has to have some kind of silly action going on!!! ,,,,,,,,, the winner probably even lost a few little prop bets in recent weeks on purpose to make betting against him look easier!!!!  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i'm 100% sure the winner simply pulled a con on his friend to get the money, but maybe his friend should have known better!!!  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also the losing bettor go's out of his way to report the details of the bet in a long 2 part blog only a day or 2 after it happened ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if you read the 2 parts it's almost like he's trying to get the poker world feeling sorry for him, could it be that maybe he hopes some of his more successful  poker buddys will pitch in and bail him out?,,,, sure sounds that way to me!,,, or with all the details is he hoping to get offered a movie rights deal??  ,,,,,,,, something is real fishy with this whole thing ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hell, with these type of degenerates maybe none of it really happened,,, maybe they just planned something for attention for whatever reason!! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but if i had to bet my money i say it did happen and like i wrote earlier the losing bettor just got hooked, like a little fishy!!!!!


A little conjecture there Foolish but you make valid assumptions nonetheless.

Given the way these guys throw money around and given that their whole profession is built partially on timely bluffs, it is true Ashton was probably much more well rested and prepared then his friend thought he was.

And you are right about holding onto to the treadmill while running. You literally can walk on air at time. (Also, correct that actual ground is much more strenuous on the knees, ankles, feet). 

I do believe it happened though.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by yuice20:

thanks for posting that scalabrine, it was a great read. do you by any chance know who these guys are?

No problem. Glad someone enjoyed it too. As Weathered said, Ashton is a very skilled online 'pro' although I do not know the other guy. Don't be surprised to see Ashton pop on on ESPN here and there next year during the WSOP. He's still very young and is getting better than he already is.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by Weathered:

Ashton Griffin is theASHMAN103 online.

I know he plays alot of PLO on PokerStars.

He was playing Isildur1 $25/$50 PLO heads up a few days before this bet went down.

And this was not really a $1,000,000 prop bet. It was a $900,000 prop bet laying 3 - 1. He won $300,000.

I know Justin Smith and a few others had some side bets going as well on this but I would not really call this a $1,000,000 prop bet. Unless I am missing something, which is possible.


You are correct. 

Ashton was laying 3-1 and it didn't quite reach the $1 million mark even with those odds as Ashton put up a little less than $300K. I referred to it as such because that is the figure it's flying around the internet with. 
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Ashton just won a 100k entry high roller event not too long ago or he came in 2nd, at least that what i hear, cant remember now but he's also won some other good money lately so he was for sure looking to gamble it up a little as he would be playin on house money so to speak ,,,,,,, the poor fellow that lost had 285k of the 300k, but he had a chance to win nearly 900k ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if ashton would have somehow lost, the 900k would have hurt but like i said he's won several million lately so he was on a free roll and he knew he was at least a 99% lock to win!!! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, by the way, i was at planet fitness a few hours ago and i asked one of the trainer guys what he thought about the bet,,,, he thinks that running 70 miles on the treadmill in 24 hours might be at the very most equivalent to running a marathon without stopping, and thats at most he said,,, if ashton used the side rails or handles in the front any at all then it makes it much easier than a marathon,,,,,,,,,, also keep in mind he had 24 hours to finish it, so he actually stopped and rested several times, plus he got to eat and drink gatorade ect ,,,, his poor buddy got suckered no doubt!   ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i'm sure ashton was totally tired when he finished but by having his dad have to help him limp back into the house and almost have to carry him up the steps i think was just some good ol hotdogging by the winner to make it look dramatic!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hold on to your wallets fella's, somebody's always got a plan!!! 

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Posted: 2/18/2011 7:48:58 PM
Interesting read, thanks for posting it. It really does play out like a con off sorts.This guy Haseeb doesn't exactly strike me as being " street savy."   I would have parked myself in that gym the entire time.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by FoolishTool:

Ashton just won a 100k entry high roller event not too long ago or he came in 2nd, at least that what i hear, cant remember now but he's also won some other good money lately so he was for sure looking to gamble it up a little as he would be playin on house money so to speak ,,,,,,, the poor fellow that lost had 285k of the 300k, but he had a chance to win nearly 900k ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if ashton would have somehow lost, the 900k would have hurt but like i said he's won several million lately so he was on a free roll and he knew he was at least a 99% lock to win!!! ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, by the way, i was at planet fitness a few hours ago and i asked one of the trainer guys what he thought about the bet,,,, he thinks that running 70 miles on the treadmill in 24 hours might be at the very most equivalent to running a marathon without stopping, and thats at most he said,,, if ashton used the side rails or handles in the front any at all then it makes it much easier than a marathon,,,,,,,,,, also keep in mind he had 24 hours to finish it, so he actually stopped and rested several times, plus he got to eat and drink gatorade ect ,,,, his poor buddy got suckered no doubt!   ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i'm sure ashton was totally tired when he finished but by having his dad have to help him limp back into the house and almost have to carry him up the steps i think was just some good ol hotdogging by the winner to make it look dramatic!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hold on to your wallets fella's, somebody's always got a plan!!! 


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QUOTE Originally Posted by BostonKen:

Interesting read, thanks for posting it. It really does play out like a con off sorts.This guy Haseeb doesn't exactly strike me as being " street savy."   I would have parked myself in that gym the entire time.

Seriously!

You just 'trust' the guy with your 300K????

It's like telling a guy you will give him 300K to bowl a 300 game and then leaving to go get some pizza. You come back to find you lost, and don't know who rolled the score or if it was manipulated or reset each frame.

Actually, I would have just canceled the bet like the family asked. Clearly Ashton wanted the bet canceled or his parents wouldn't have attempted to beg out of it. Haseeb got what he deserved.
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Pretty hilarious how this all went down. In short, Haseeb got hustled. 

Thankfully Haseeb WASN'T in the gym, or he would of been severely disappointed.

Running 70 miles in 24 hours by an untrained runner - You could safely say there is about a 0.0000001% of someone accomplishing that feat. I realistically impossible.

Running 70 miles in 24 hours by an untrained runner on a treadmill - 70 miles on a treadmill does NOT equal 70 miles on a flat road/track. More like in the low 60's.

Running 70* miles in 24 hours by an untrained runner on a treadmill when there was nothing in the rules specifying of hand rail usage -  I guess you guys can all see where this one is heading. Ash technically did not cheat. Although he did hustle the garbage out of Haseeb.

Given Ash's rep as a wrestler, and the amount of starvation, and dehydration he has been forced to but his body through in the past.. this was a friggin cake walk for him.

Him calling his parents... crucial. How do you think it would of have turned out if his parents were NOT with him around the clock? Haseeb would of felt compelled to be present for medical reasons. Obviously he was nowhere to be seen, given the impression he already made on Ash's parents.

But don't worry... Ash will undoubtedly (maybe already even has) lose all of that money back.. since the only part of that story which was 100% on the dollar, was that Ash gets banged around like a salvation army drum in prop bets. 

It's just unfortunate for Haseeb that this kid had to take advantage of one of his own. But it's his own fault.

GH Haseeb. You got huss'd brah. 
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QUOTE Originally Posted by HALLINGGOL:

Pretty hilarious how this all went down. In short, Haseeb got hustled. 

Thankfully Haseeb WASN'T in the gym, or he would of been severely disappointed.

Running 70 miles in 24 hours by an untrained runner - You could safely say there is about a 0.0000001% of someone accomplishing that feat. I realistically impossible.

Running 70 miles in 24 hours by an untrained runner on a treadmill - 70 miles on a treadmill does NOT equal 70 miles on a flat road/track. More like in the low 60's.

Running 70* miles in 24 hours by an untrained runner on a treadmill when there was nothing in the rules specifying of hand rail usage -  I guess you guys can all see where this one is heading. Ash technically did not cheat. Although he did hustle the garbage out of Haseeb.

Given Ash's rep as a wrestler, and the amount of starvation, and dehydration he has been forced to but his body through in the past.. this was a friggin cake walk for him.

Him calling his parents... crucial. How do you think it would of have turned out if his parents were NOT with him around the clock? Haseeb would of felt compelled to be present for medical reasons. Obviously he was nowhere to be seen, given the impression he already made on Ash's parents.

But don't worry... Ash will undoubtedly (maybe already even has) lose all of that money back.. since the only part of that story which was 100% on the dollar, was that Ash gets banged around like a salvation army drum in prop bets. 

It's just unfortunate for Haseeb that this kid had to take advantage of one of his own. But it's his own fault.

GH Haseeb. You got huss'd brah. 
 
Interesting view about the parents. Didn't think of that...
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Posted: 2/20/2011 8:38:14 PM

Good to see some stuff like this in the poker section. 

Ashton knew he could do it and thats why he offered 3-1.  Haseeb should have known he was getting duped, let me see he asks around he has 0% chance of doing this yet he is giving me 3-1.  Suckers bet big time.

Funny thing about all this is Justin was the one who was suppose to bite instead he turns to Haseeb just to get a proper odd number than he says okay book it.  WTF

This part screams scam

Around 2PM Doug and I went to Ruby Tuesday's to get lunch. While we were eating, we got a text from Ashton saying that he was looking for more action, and that he was going to find other people to buy it up so he could put up 900k of his own money. I remember when he read that text aloud to me, Doug looked at me dumbfounded. We had no idea how to take it. The first thought that came to our minds was that Ashton was self-destructing. That he was putting it all on the line, and wanted all-or-nothing. I remember thinking that the sweat-drenched Ashton, in that musky little gym probably felt happier and more alive running on that treadmill than he had in some time. He had meaning in that moment. He must've felt that every pound of his muscle, every strain of his body had a meaning and clear direction behind it. He knew exactly what he was fighting for, what he was hurting for.

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Crazy story.

The thing that I don't understand is how they tracked that he was running the whole time. I know they made an agreement no one would cheat, but who witnessed his running speed.

Sounds like Hasheeb's life is in trouble for a while, he seems mind fked.
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What a bunch of idiots.  The guys who were betting against the guy weren't even in the Gym for 95% of the time he was supposedly "running".   The only thing that got a workout that day was the treadmill, which spent the majority of the time spinning without a runner on it.
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QUOTE Originally Posted by earthWake:

Crazy story.

The thing that I don't understand is how they tracked that he was running the whole time. I know they made an agreement no one would cheat, but who witnessed his running speed.

Sounds like Hasheeb's life is in trouble for a while, he seems mind fked.

Fault the losing bettor for not watching the run the entire bet. I do believe he ran the 70 miles though. 

People I have spoken too since the OP have confirmed it's a sucker's bet for a tried and true runner.
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Posted: 3/13/2012 1:00:20 AM
yeah if i had that kind of money on a prop bet he would be running outside with an odometer on him, running on a tread mill very questionable, also if i had that much money i would want to be a witness the whole time make sure no cheating going on,  sounds like it could be a good story, 
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Posted: 3/13/2012 3:28:12 AM
The more I let this story digest, the more I believe it was a setup. Heres why.
 
The kid was on a terrible pace and looked like he wasn't going to do it until his parents showed up. The parents played the part perfectly and made Hasheeb feel like garbage. There was no way he was going to stay in the same room with them the entire time he ran. I was under the impression that if a treadmill is moving, it will continue to record progress even if the runner is off the track. I also think it was a setup because the dad carried him up the steps. This says to me that it was all an act. Funny story though.
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