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Did I play this hand wrong?

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Author: [Poker] Topic: Did I play this hand wrong?
fishniz58 PM fishniz58
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Posted: 8/8/2009 12:06:45 PM
Ok, here are the reasons I think I may have played this wrong even if I was ahead the whole time until the river. I was dealt AA in early position.

1) I'm up against the chip leader
2) He could've easily flopped a straight, set or two pair on this flop.

I seriously considered playing it very cautiously and possibly folding if I bet half the pot or so after the flop and got reraised. But I opted to play it aggressively and got burned on the river. I'll chalk this up to a learning experience and I'm very interested to know what your take is on it.

Full Tilt Poker Game #13890015734: The Fifty-Fifty (100009768), Table 17 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:36:51 ET - 2009/08/08
Seat 1: CanISayWanker (13,478)
Seat 2: OneTimee1 (23,985)
Seat 3: Kyle-DFW (17,058)
Seat 4: Robin Colcord (54,026)
Seat 5: uscollie (90,385)
Seat 7: onetimedealer76 (31,329)
Seat 8: mordi20 (74,315)
Seat 9: duc08 (54,949)
CanISayWanker antes 200
OneTimee1 antes 200
Kyle-DFW antes 200
Robin Colcord antes 200
uscollie antes 200
onetimedealer76 antes 200
mordi20 antes 200
duc08 antes 200
OneTimee1 posts the small blind of 800
Kyle-DFW posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Robin Colcord [Ac As]
Robin Colcord raises to 5,000
uscollie calls 5,000
onetimedealer76 folds
mordi20 folds
duc08 folds
CanISayWanker folds
OneTimee1 has 15 seconds left to act
OneTimee1 folds
Kyle-DFW folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts Qh Ks]
Robin Colcord has 15 seconds left to act
OneTimee1: yup
Robin Colcord bets 14,000
uscollie raises to 85,185, and is all in
Robin Colcord calls 34,826, and is all in
uscollie shows [Ad Th]
Robin Colcord shows [Ac As]
Uncalled bet of 36,359 returned to uscollie
*** TURN *** [Ts Qh Ks] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [Ts Qh Ks Qs] [Td]
uscollie shows a full house, Tens full of Queens
Robin Colcord shows two pair, Aces and Queens
uscollie wins the pot (111,652) with a full house, Tens full of Queens
GetMoney12 (Observer): sick
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 111,652 | Rake 0
Board: [Ts Qh Ks Qs Td]
Seat 1: CanISayWanker (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: OneTimee1 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Kyle-DFW (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Robin Colcord showed [Ac As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: uscollie showed [Ad Th] and won (111,652) with a full house, Tens full of Queens
Seat 7: onetimedealer76 folded before the Flop
Seat 8: mordi20 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: duc08 folded before the Flop
Godfather16 PM Godfather16
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Posted: 8/8/2009 5:35:08 PM
The guy got incredibly lucky on the river, he hit a 2 outer basically, with a draw for a Jack for a straight and a chop. So you were 95% or better to win or chop after the turn, can't ask or a better chance than that.
Fadeville PM Fadeville
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Posted: 8/8/2009 5:44:21 PM
Not totally sure what you're asking here, you got the money in when you were way ahead and got unlucky so you played it perfectly. As to whether you could have been beat on the flop, it is very hard to fold aces when you have 35bb to start the hand (I can't remember the last time I did this) in what I'm guessing is not a $5000 tournament (what is the buy in?). There are alot of combo draws on the flop which he can shove with so you have to call. The only slight concern is your large flop bet is telegraphing your hand.
wizardofroz PM wizardofroz
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Posted: 8/10/2009 4:33:50 AM
Very scary flop for you to go all-in with AA, but once he turned over AT, he only had an 8% chance to win the pot outright.  Therefore, you got all your chips in with far the best of it, so you made the correct decision.  Fate just was not on your side. 
fishniz58 PM fishniz58
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Posted: 8/10/2009 10:36:52 PM
Yeah...that's basically my question.  I realize that I got all my chips in and was way ahead which is all I can ask for and took a horrible beat.  No question about that.  But yes, that was a very scary flop and I easily could've been out-flopped.  That's why I'm wondering what is the correct way to play this situation...not knowing what the other guy's hole cards are.  Any way you look at it, it's a tough situation.  The way I look at it is no matter what I do, I have a feeling all our chips will be in the middle eventually.  I don't know.
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Posted: 8/11/2009 7:25:00 PM
tough luck bro....if you were wanting to hang in the tourney, then you can fold and live to see another day....after his call pre flop, you can assume that flop hit him.....2 pair is likely as is somethin like K/J, leaving him open ended with top pair....
bottomline, you got unlucky....its not the last time it will happen either...
better luck next time
xxx777 PM xxx777
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Posted: 8/30/2009 6:32:17 AM
LUCK is a major Factor when you Go ALL-IN, Just hoping the Timing is right for your Pocket AA........so many times have my AA failed on me....just not my days
Godfather16 PM Godfather16
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Posted: 8/30/2009 11:20:28 AM
Aces get cracked, so there is no unbeatable hand. It's just after 5 cards on the table, it is tough for AA to improve. Think about it, KK or QQ, you are worried about an Ace hitting the flop. But there is no other hand that you would rather have in the long run, in either limit, no limit, or tourneys. JT suited is maybe close.
bigksolo74 PM bigksolo74
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Posted: 9/9/2009 4:05:19 AM
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