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#1
Posted: 2/12/2012 2:29:24 PM

I have played around with TVIX and DXD in practice accounts and done well but are there any better ones out there?

Also can someone that knows about these things explain to me how they work? I know TVIX follows the VIX volatility, but some times when the market is down, TVIX goes down as well.

As far as DXD goes it seems that is the 2x inverse of the DOW
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Posted: 4/5/2012 9:19:00 AM
You have the right idea, its too much to type out now I will later, but ETF in my opinion is def the way to go
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Posted: 4/5/2012 10:29:09 AM
In a down market, I'm usually buying up TZA (Russell 2000 Inverse times 3). 
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Posted: 4/15/2012 4:44:31 PM
Learn about the decay in these leveraged ETFs. You just can't hold them for more than a few days - unless you are sure the market is going one way without some ups and downs.
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Posted: 4/17/2012 1:58:05 PM
FXP


and yes, if u held fas in 2009 and sold at its peak u'd be balling.
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Posted: 4/17/2012 2:32:57 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mainmanmainman2:

FXP


and yes, if u held fas in 2009 and sold at its peak u'd be balling.
FXP ?
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Posted: 4/17/2012 4:27:22 PM
fxp is short china if i recall.
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Posted: 4/23/2012 2:02:41 PM
tza is up 5% while fxp is up 5.8%
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Posted: 4/23/2012 3:26:17 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mainmanmainman2:

tza is up 5% while fxp is up 5.8%
is there more coming?
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Posted: 4/24/2012 2:52:57 PM
yes i think another 3-4 % 2maro for wednesday

cant be too sure though
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Posted: 4/24/2012 4:00:57 PM
rather hop on netflix...
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Posted: 5/4/2012 11:32:36 AM
2.72% today FXP UP right now...

get in get out, make moollahhh
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Posted: 5/8/2012 5:30:15 PM
another 4% + today
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Posted: 5/9/2012 2:57:52 PM
another 3% today on top of the 4% yesterday
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Posted: 5/9/2012 8:42:58 PM
QUOTE Originally Posted by mainmanmainman2:

another 3% today on top of the 4% yesterday
are you day trading or swing trading it
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Posted: 5/14/2012 2:26:19 PM
another 2.72% for fxp at the moment
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Posted: 5/17/2012 7:40:17 PM
another f'n 4.38 % on top of the w/e its on

23.50 -====> 31.80 ....

i bet some jp morgan guys made a killn
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