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#1 Posted: 3/15/2012 6:46:12 AM Let's face it, it doesnt look good for the GOP right now. In a rotton economy and an unpopular incumbent President, they STILL underdogs to win in November. Their favorite, Romney, is about exciting as a gamblers anonomous meeting.
How many of you right-wingers with a distaste for Obama would be willing to right now bet on him at -180 figuring there's no way in hell Romney can take him down?
Before I started sports betting, I USED TO HAVE FAVORITE TEAMS. Not any more. I take the emotion out of betting. And I personally (a lefty) think Santorum is the best value bet at 47-1 even though he's my least favorite candidate remaining. |
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#2 Posted: 3/15/2012 10:18:21 AM When was the last time an incumbant was NOT favored to win a presidential reelection?
The odds are set on what will bring actionon both sides.
The odds on Obama will drop as the GOP narrows the field.
I am guessing leveling around 140
Then a major blunder by either candidate will be reflected in the odds
Romney has Herman Cain bimbos pop up Obama goes to 250
A world crisis and Obama dithers the odds may drop closer to -120 |
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#3 Posted: 3/15/2012 11:29:20 AM Since 1970, incumbant presidents have won 3 and lost 3 so i see no edge there. Jimmy Carter and Bush 1 faced bad economies and got pounded. I do not know of one republican voter who is passionate about retread Romney.
You contradict yourself by saying "The odds are set by what will bring action on both sides". Then you say after the GOP primaries the odds will go down to -140. Hmm, if everybody knows this, then why are the odds at -180? Would you bet Obama at -180 if they are going to "Drop after the field narrows"? |
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#4 Posted: 3/15/2012 12:48:38 PM Think it's too early & would wait. Too many things can happen & from here on in everything will be hugely magnified. The chances on the Obama odds dropping some are much greater than them going up imo. And the longer Santorum is still a threat, the more Romney will continue to flipflop & say stupid garbage pandering to whoever for votes which will hurt him in the general election with indy's. |
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#5 Posted: 3/15/2012 2:13:00 PM I do not know of one republican voter who is passionate about retread Romney.
I am one of Romneys supporters. We need more than Romney right now...but he is 5 steps in the right direction. He did an amazing job turning the 2002 winter games around and Nobody gives him credit. |
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#6 Posted: 3/15/2012 7:46:31 PM It's kind of interesting because after McCain got beat in '08, I remeber many of my conservative friends saying, "See, I told you so, thats what happens when we elect a moderate. We'll never do it again!"
Romney is the creme de la creme of moderates. You said you "support" him. I said who is "passionate" about him? |
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#7 Posted: 3/15/2012 8:20:57 PM QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12:
Since 1970, incumbant presidents have won 3 and lost 3 so i see no edge there. Jimmy Carter and Bush 1 faced bad economies and got pounded. I do not know of one republican voter who is passionate about retread Romney.
You contradict yourself by saying "The odds are set by what will bring action on both sides". Then you say after the GOP primaries the odds will go down to -140. Hmm, if everybody knows this, then why are the odds at -180? Would you bet Obama at -180 if they are going to "Drop after the field narrows"?
True, but they ran against very good opponets. Reagan, Clinton.. There's no Clinton or Reagan running in this race.
Barring any kind of economic catastrophe Obama will win. Take it to the bank.
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#8 Posted: 3/15/2012 10:28:31 PM Don, personally, I don't think Obama is worth the odds he's getting. But if you look at the GOP field, they are not worth the odds either.
This election stinks. |
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#9 Posted: 3/19/2012 3:37:25 PM have you considered a swiss cheese roulette/partial hedge?
apparently there is a lot of value in a -274 bet that obama wins by less then 330 electoral votes...
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#10 Posted: 3/19/2012 4:35:03 PM I certainly don't think Obama will win in that big of a landslide, as landslides of that nature are rare. Most of our recent elections have been fairly close. Think Bush/Gore, 2000.
At this point, I don't support anybody because neither party represents the people. |
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#11 Posted: 3/19/2012 4:39:12 PM too many variables. whoever the gop is...romnoodles....is not relevant. its the economy and other issues. |
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#12 Posted: 3/20/2012 3:30:04 AM QUOTE Originally Posted by promark12: I certainly don't think Obama will win in that big of a landslide, as landslides of that nature are rare. Most of our recent elections have been fairly close. Think Bush/Gore, 2000.
At this point, I don't support anybody because neither party represents the people.
Land slide no...
but hanging chads and a complete mockery of the election process for the world to laugh at as we champion democracy for other nations... no also
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#13 Posted: 3/20/2012 9:35:30 PM Is that prop the popular vote or the Electoral College?Romney could win the Electoral while losing the popular as the evangelicals won;t go all out for him,but he'll still win those states-albeit by smaller margins.
Right now,I have Obama at 201-195,with 10 states undecided:Nev,Col,Ia,Wisc,Ohio,Pa,Fla,Va.NC,and MICH.
Should Romney pull this off-winning while"losing"-the Rodney King riots will resemble High Mass at The Vatican compared to what will see on Nov.7 and onward. |
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